Roland Karlsson
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Ahhhh ... this might be an answer to the riddle why some
pictures are sharp but other are not.
The noise is probabaly due to the extra small sensor. 1/2.5" is less
than most today.
Roland
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Optio S future?
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pictures are sharp but other are not.
than most today.
Roland
great! now I have to learn french so I could read it
Matthew Drotar
New member
This is kind of late, but I got quite a deal from futureshop too...
I went to buy this camera but they were sold out, so they offered to sell me the display model temporarily and then I can come back and exchange it for a new when when they get more in stock. I didn't want to wait, so I bought their display model for $599. They also gave me a $30 gift card, so chop $30 off the price (after taxes). They also had 256MB SD cards on sale for $104, so I picked up one of those.
When they got their new stock in, I brought the camera back. Except they already had a new display model, so they offered to give me 10% off to keep their original display model, which is $60 off before taxes. That was quite a deal so I went with it.
So in the end, with taxes and all, it cost me just under $700 for the whole everything.
The guy offered a discount on extended warranty to me too, but I didn't take it. If there is a defect in the product, it usually shows up within a month, and futureshop offers 30 day guarantee anyway. And if I ever do need warranty, the camera come with manufacturer warranty anyway, and would cost alot less than $90 to ship there and back... the only down side would be missing your camera for a couple weeks or so. But I figure I'll save my $90 instead of bother with that.
With all that said, I am returning my camera because of unacceptable barrel distortion, and a useless movie-mode.
I went to buy this camera but they were sold out, so they offered to sell me the display model temporarily and then I can come back and exchange it for a new when when they get more in stock. I didn't want to wait, so I bought their display model for $599. They also gave me a $30 gift card, so chop $30 off the price (after taxes). They also had 256MB SD cards on sale for $104, so I picked up one of those.
When they got their new stock in, I brought the camera back. Except they already had a new display model, so they offered to give me 10% off to keep their original display model, which is $60 off before taxes. That was quite a deal so I went with it.
So in the end, with taxes and all, it cost me just under $700 for the whole everything.
The guy offered a discount on extended warranty to me too, but I didn't take it. If there is a defect in the product, it usually shows up within a month, and futureshop offers 30 day guarantee anyway. And if I ever do need warranty, the camera come with manufacturer warranty anyway, and would cost alot less than $90 to ship there and back... the only down side would be missing your camera for a couple weeks or so. But I figure I'll save my $90 instead of bother with that.
With all that said, I am returning my camera because of unacceptable barrel distortion, and a useless movie-mode.
Well here is a pic that was taken with the optio S.. its me in the picture.. and my Bro took it.. now Im not a pro or anything.. infact this is my first diga cam and I hardley know anything about taking pictures.. so I just had my bro take the picture and this is what we got..
I dont realy know if its a good pic or not.. nut I thoght it turned out pretty nice.. I got it printed at kinkos on there photo printer a 5X7 and it looks nice on that too... oh about the lighting and all.. it was takin in the standard P mode nothing fandy and its a white sheet hanging on the volly ball net and it was a overcast day out.. no flash so any ways threre ya have it.. if you would like to see more pics.. I gots lots more.. I carry it with me every where I go...
well yall have a Wonderfull day
oh... and dont get your underwear in a bundel over the quality of the Optio.. just pretend its your first diga cam like it is for me.. and youll love it harhar
Eleazar
I dont realy know if its a good pic or not.. nut I thoght it turned out pretty nice.. I got it printed at kinkos on there photo printer a 5X7 and it looks nice on that too... oh about the lighting and all.. it was takin in the standard P mode nothing fandy and its a white sheet hanging on the volly ball net and it was a overcast day out.. no flash so any ways threre ya have it.. if you would like to see more pics.. I gots lots more.. I carry it with me every where I go...
well yall have a Wonderfull day
oh... and dont get your underwear in a bundel over the quality of the Optio.. just pretend its your first diga cam like it is for me.. and youll love it harhar
Eleazar
Bo Bengtsson
Leading Member
At best it takes pics that matches my Sony V1. In less than 1/3 of the size!
Your nick-name is a shame to this forum!!
Bo
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Your nick-name is a shame to this forum!!
Bo
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The Optio 550 also appears to be very compact and 'pocketable'. Has anyone had the opportunity to directly compare picture quality between the Optio S and the 550? Is there a substantial difference in pic quality between these cameras?
optio hater
Member
Maybe its just me? But if you look at the shirt color in the picture with the lovebird, its covered with noise. Also, the graininess is quite noticable in the sky. At this point I realize that nobody here wants to hear it, but at 100% these images are considerably lower in quality than many 2MP cameras out there. And to balance the discussion, since some people are still resorting to personal attacks, the optio s is the smallest best looking camera out there. But I am 5' 10". Which isn't tall, but certainly isn't troll-like.
optio hater
Member
Arn the angry guy, still personnally attacking me... Well, if that's the best you can do. Obviously you dont want to hear anything negative about the camera. Which is fine, but to keep attacking me just because of m opionions, that is just sad.
But about the camera, I still haven't seen any noise free images posted to the forum. Lin's images exhibited the exact CCD noise I have mentioned in the past. So keep the personal attacks coming if you must, or you can try and behave like an adult and keep your comments to the camera. In which case I would really expect you to have some negative opinions.
Since I'm 5'10" tall, I think I'm safe from being a troll. You on the otherhand need to get out from under that chip on your shoulder.
But about the camera, I still haven't seen any noise free images posted to the forum. Lin's images exhibited the exact CCD noise I have mentioned in the past. So keep the personal attacks coming if you must, or you can try and behave like an adult and keep your comments to the camera. In which case I would really expect you to have some negative opinions.
Since I'm 5'10" tall, I think I'm safe from being a troll. You on the otherhand need to get out from under that chip on your shoulder.
optio hater
Member
Of course it bores you to discuss it again. The image quality is good enough for you. Therefore everyone else's opinion doesn't matter. The universe revolves around Arn and his blurry, noisy, slow little camera. All hail the king. Since I'm the lowly troll in Arn's universe, I'll just keep my opinion to myself. I wont try to protect anyone else from possibly making a bad decision. So, everybody still reading this discussion, Arn is bored. he has decided that noisy blurry images are good enough. All kneel before arn, he has spoken and his opinion is now law.
Dont post anymore crappy images from the optio s, Arn will merely proclaim them as operator error.
Dont post anymore crappy images from the optio s, Arn will merely proclaim them as operator error.
haha. troll. troll isn't referring to your stature. it's a term used for people in forums. i don't know how it's used usually, but i know at the anandtech fs/ft forum it's used for those people that don't keep their side of the deal (for sale/for trade)
wait a min there. small cameras aren't good? hmm. i like my pentax optio 550, and it's small. i mean, not the size of these, but it's not a big camera like the fuji s602.
also, the sony v1 is decently small, and yet it's a really good camera and produces high-quality pictures. you definitely can't disagree with that
also, the sony v1 is decently small, and yet it's a really good camera and produces high-quality pictures. you definitely can't disagree with that
Unda Covalava
Veteran Member
Wow, what a heated discussion! I was considering the optio S but has too many drawbacks. In the end, image quality is everything.
As for the elph being too big or heavy, that's just ridiculous. I'v gone hiking, kayaking, and backbacking all through Europe with the elph in my pocket without any probs.
As for the elph being too big or heavy, that's just ridiculous. I'v gone hiking, kayaking, and backbacking all through Europe with the elph in my pocket without any probs.
I can
Bigger cameras have usually bigger CCD sensors, which amounts to less noise than with smaller sensors. Smaller photosites produce more noise. Bigger cameras can also have bigger and better optics. Size DOES matter in these things...
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0210/02100402sensorsizes.asp
Pentax 550 and Sony V1 have 1/8" sensors, the Sony F-717 has a 2/3" sensor - you can see the increase in noise from F-717 to V1, for example (the amount of photosites remains the same, but sensor size decreases). And I guess the Pentax 550 is even noisier than the V1.
It's NOT that those cameras aren't good - they are. But it IS easier to achieve better image quality, with bigger cameras (that doesn't mean that you can't design a huge and crappy, of course)
Pentax Optio S has a 1/2.5" sensor and the optics are TINY and it shows too. That doesn't mean, that it's not a great camera (I love it), but other (bigger) cameras that I've owned have had (and have - the F717) less noise and less optical distortion.
J Simpson
Well-known member
optio hater wrote:
You on
if you......go back under the rock whence you came. Seems like a fair
bargain.
Cheers,
Jack
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It's amazing what one can do when one doesn't know what one is doing!
You on
Fine, we will get out from under the chips on our shoulders.....but only
if you......go back under the rock whence you came. Seems like a fair
bargain.
Cheers,
Jack
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It's amazing what one can do when one doesn't know what one is doing!
nope. well, i didn't even viist the forum 30 days ago.
but in regards to the picture quality, i don't think that's totally true. just because it's a smaller sensor and has more noise doesn't mean its worse quality. noise isn't everything. what about blown out highlights, jaggies, stuff like that? that's image quality
but in regards to the picture quality, i don't think that's totally true. just because it's a smaller sensor and has more noise doesn't mean its worse quality. noise isn't everything. what about blown out highlights, jaggies, stuff like that? that's image quality
I have read the entire thread on this topic (the future of Optio S), and I have to say that I was disapointed that I was never able to see a shot taken with another camera to use as a comparison.
I purchased my Optio S several days ago. I really really like the size, but I have been just a little disapointed with the quality of some of the photos I have taken. I can see what Optio hater is talking about. That said, this is my first digi cam, so I am not sure that there is anything better in the price/size range.
I am still debating whether or not I should keep the Optio S, or return it for the Cannon Elph 3.2 MP or the Olympus Stylus 300 or 400. (The stylus 400 is about the same price at Costco as the 300 at other places around town.) Size is very imortant to me, but I think I can handle the size of any of these 3 cameras. Image quality is even more important. I will probably print a minority of the pics I take, but I would like to be proud of those that I do print. Also, action photos will make up a fair ammount of my shots, so a fast focus is important.
Can somone please compare these cameras and make a reccomendation?
Thanks,
Sam
I purchased my Optio S several days ago. I really really like the size, but I have been just a little disapointed with the quality of some of the photos I have taken. I can see what Optio hater is talking about. That said, this is my first digi cam, so I am not sure that there is anything better in the price/size range.
I am still debating whether or not I should keep the Optio S, or return it for the Cannon Elph 3.2 MP or the Olympus Stylus 300 or 400. (The stylus 400 is about the same price at Costco as the 300 at other places around town.) Size is very imortant to me, but I think I can handle the size of any of these 3 cameras. Image quality is even more important. I will probably print a minority of the pics I take, but I would like to be proud of those that I do print. Also, action photos will make up a fair ammount of my shots, so a fast focus is important.
Can somone please compare these cameras and make a reccomendation?
Thanks,
Sam
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