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A6300 Missing Features - Any?

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Arizona Sunset said:
Let's get this thread started. I'll probably upgrade to the A6300 in due course, but it's not an immediate trigger pull for me.

I'm not entirely sure, but it appears to be missing some compelling feature sets:
  • IBIS?
  • 1080p 120fps?
  • Touch screen?
What else?
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The only thing missing is IBIS.
 
Still unsure for now but I suspect the A6300 will overheat when recording 4K for a certain amount of time. I have heard reports that the A7rii overheats after around 30-40 mins.

It's still a remarkable feature though for a camera, but if you need a 4K video recorder for long periods of recording such as events, talks, speeches, training, etc, go for an actual camcorder such as the FS series, or well, maybe a Panasonic as a low budget solution. But if the A6300 does record till the memory card is full then that's really something I would consider, but I highly suspect that cause even the flagship A7rII can't do that.
 
OpticsEngineer said:
Low light AF for me is the biggest weakness of my A6000. All the new features I see on the A6300 are things I don't really care about.

If the low light AF were improved, I am sure it would have been mentioned.
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Agreed. It was a weakness in the NEX-3, NEX-5N, NEX-6, NEX-7 and a6000 (owned them all). I'd like to see an improvement as I do alot of shooting of low light cityscapes and got tired of manually focusing or using DMF which isn't always reliable.

I'm sure a reviewer eventually will bring up low light AF and will let viewers know if there's an improvement or not.

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tobicy68 said:
Still unsure for now but I suspect the A6300 will overheat when recording 4K for a certain amount of time. I have heard reports that the A7rii overheats after around 30-40 mins.

It's still a remarkable feature though for a camera, but if you need a 4K video recorder for long periods of recording such as events, talks, speeches, training, etc, go for an actual camcorder such as the FS series, or well, maybe a Panasonic as a low budget solution. But if the A6300 does record till the memory card is full then that's really something I would consider, but I highly suspect that cause even the flagship A7rII can't do that.
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"I have heard reports that the A7rii overheats after around 30-40 mins...events, talks, speeches, training, etc"

Let me get this straight - you press the video button and let a camera run for 30-40 minutes? The only videos I know that are shot that way are the security cameras at an all-night 7-11.

I think these cameras are intended to be shot for 20-30 second clips for serious editing. Video as a journalistic tool. Please watch a CNN show like Fareed Zakaria, or Squawk Box on CNN. They rarely keep a camera on a subject for more than 15 seconds.
 
Mordi said:
tobicy68 said:
Still unsure for now but I suspect the A6300 will overheat when recording 4K for a certain amount of time. I have heard reports that the A7rii overheats after around 30-40 mins.

It's still a remarkable feature though for a camera, but if you need a 4K video recorder for long periods of recording such as events, talks, speeches, training, etc, go for an actual camcorder such as the FS series, or well, maybe a Panasonic as a low budget solution. But if the A6300 does record till the memory card is full then that's really something I would consider, but I highly suspect that cause even the flagship A7rII can't do that.
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"I have heard reports that the A7rii overheats after around 30-40 mins...events, talks, speeches, training, etc"

Let me get this straight - you press the video button and let a camera run for 30-40 minutes? The only videos I know that are shot that way are the security cameras at an all-night 7-11.

I think these cameras are intended to be shot for 20-30 second clips for serious editing. Video as a journalistic tool. Please watch a CNN show like Fareed Zakaria, or Squawk Box on CNN. They rarely keep a camera on a subject for more than 15 seconds.
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This is a consumer grade camera aimed at consumers, not CNN videographers. I don't take 20 second clips of my son's sporting events and then splice them all together in post. I shoot like most consumers do, aim it at my kid and hit the record button - for however long they're playing/acting/dancing/performing etc. which is a lot longer than 15 seconds, usually several minutes at a time, over and over.

I don't know any consumer that shoots 20 second clips unless their target distribution method is Instagram.
 
tominhouston said:
Just a general reply to those who were asking - According to the Sony web site the low light focus is improved to -1 EV
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I went looking for this spec too on the a6300 and found that it says -1EV to 20EV when using an F/2.0 lens. The a6000 says 0EV to 20EV when using an F/2.8 lens. So is the a6300 really any better if you have to use a lens that is a stop faster?
 
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sportyaccordy said:
Entropy512 said:
sportyaccordy said:
The other question comes from the value of 4K just as a video resolution period. For photo editing and computer work- YES! For video on a screen you are going to be sitting >7' away from....?

I don't know if I am buying the crop thing either. You increase noise and aberrations that much more too. I think all of Sony's zooms have OSS- win win. No need to crop, just zoom and take advantage of your sensor.

Crisp 1080p is eye cuttingly sharp for video viewed normally.... I personally don't see the value of 4K video at the moment.

$1150 hurts too. Between this and the X-Pro 2 manufacturers are really doubling down on the early adopter tax.
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For me, it's more about the full sensor readout than 4k. If the camera does 1080p with full readout that's highly beneficial. If it bins 1080p, then just record 4k and downscale later. This will result in a major improvement in 1080p noise performance, even going up against an FF sensor that is disadvantaged by binning.

Right now - A6300 superior for video, A7II superior for stills. Would've been nice not to have to choose.
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You can have both.... but it's gonna cost ya ;-) (A7SII, A7RII)

I think Sony's body strategy is wise. Everyone wants a NEX-7 successor, but there's two problems with that. One a pro crop body is worthless without pro crop glass, and that's just not coming. 2.... you look at other pro crop bodies, and for casual shooters the value proposition is off. If I am a general user and not a sports/wildlife pro, what does a 7D2 or NX1 give me that an A7II or 6D don't? Even lens wise, FE outdoes E in some aspects. 24-70/4 is a better buy than the 16-70 IMO for example.

I think if video is a priority and you don't want to go FF you have to go with those Panasonics personally.
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Of course "it's gonna cost ya" but the right tool for the job, right? Speaking of which, the 24-70 FE may be a better buy than the 16-70, but it's not comparable in focal length covered on an APSC camera. Apples and oranges. If you wanted an orange and paid less for an apple, would it be a bargain? I would suggest not.
 
I'm a current M43 shooter, but Sony is being very, very innovative at the moment which is impressive.

I must admit for a split second I felt like defecting, but the A6300 doesn't have many external controls, doesn't have a touch screen and no IBIS. Seems like all the effort was put into AF and video, at the expense of UX.

Still, I'm excited to try it out in the shops and see how it fares against the new PEN-F, and one thing's for certain - the $995 price point is pretty sweet (take note, Olympus and Panasonic).
 
sportyaccordy said:
The other question comes from the value of 4K just as a video resolution period. For photo editing and computer work- YES! For video on a screen you are going to be sitting >7' away from....?

I don't know if I am buying the crop thing either. You increase noise and aberrations that much more too. I think all of Sony's zooms have OSS- win win. No need to crop, just zoom and take advantage of your sensor.

Crisp 1080p is eye cuttingly sharp for video viewed normally.... I personally don't see the value of 4K video at the moment.

$1150 hurts too. Between this and the X-Pro 2 manufacturers are really doubling down on the early adopter tax.
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It depends on what you are using 4K video for. Many will not care about video, or may not want to deal with the larger file sizes, etc. But all other things being equal, you will get better image quality with far more information available for post production from 4K than from 1080. For video people, this is a significant leap in video capability over the A6000.
 
Arizona Sunset said:
Let's get this thread started. I'll probably upgrade to the A6300 in due course, but it's not an immediate trigger pull for me.

I'm not entirely sure, but it appears to be missing some compelling feature sets:
  • IBIS?
  • 1080p 120fps?
  • Touch screen?
What else?
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Higher min. shutter speed.
 
Comparing IBIS systems to lens stabilized systems shows no evidence of cheaper lenses due to IBIS.
 
Does the 7D II have a touch screen?

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Or might be we will finally see the mythical A7000 ( NEX-7 replacement ?? ) , with weather proofed body, IBIS, 4K internal , a new BSI APS-C sensor ... etc etc .... I really think Sony can benefit from one of such , in fact better made it something like the 5D-III / GH4 , a true hybrid that can cater to Still and Video production both. And speaking of that Sony need a real top end FF model, the A99 clearly no longer made the grade and the SLT architecture just limiting, but well let me re-kindle the idea of making the A99 replacement a true mirrorless yet still with the A mount , using all the space there to facilitate something extra like the electronic variable ND , better cooling via passive heat pipe ducking ( and possibly even active cooling
 
Yes, IBIS was at the top of my wish list, too.

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hammarbytp said:
Ergonomically

I like the fact they have added a AF/MF button, something that annoys me on the A6000

But :-

Still only the 1 dial plus rotating D-PAd - surely another dial would not go amiss

Still only 2 customization buttons - Need another 2

What has Sony got against touch screens anyway?
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Mordi said:
tobicy68 said:
Still unsure for now but I suspect the A6300 will overheat when recording 4K for a certain amount of time. I have heard reports that the A7rii overheats after around 30-40 mins.

It's still a remarkable feature though for a camera, but if you need a 4K video recorder for long periods of recording such as events, talks, speeches, training, etc, go for an actual camcorder such as the FS series, or well, maybe a Panasonic as a low budget solution. But if the A6300 does record till the memory card is full then that's really something I would consider, but I highly suspect that cause even the flagship A7rII can't do that.
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"I have heard reports that the A7rii overheats after around 30-40 mins...events, talks, speeches, training, etc"

Let me get this straight - you press the video button and let a camera run for 30-40 minutes? The only videos I know that are shot that way are the security cameras at an all-night 7-11.

I think these cameras are intended to be shot for 20-30 second clips for serious editing. Video as a journalistic tool. Please watch a CNN show like Fareed Zakaria, or Squawk Box on CNN. They rarely keep a camera on a subject for more than 15 seconds.
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I shoot video of my son's soccer matches and although I stop and start in between they are definitely a lot longer than 15 seconds.

I think even a graduation speech would be at least 10-15 minutes long and it's normal to record the whole thing as a videographer of the event or just a parent there.

I've also volunteered to be the videographer of my company's annual gathering before and the cam was pretty much recording through the whole event from speech to awards presentation to games, etc.
 
Hi pixel, can you enlighten me on the use of the word, TELEDILDONICS, what are refering to, I'M baffled, thanks in advance.
 
The ability to choose the AF point using a touch screen is immensely useful, beyond what I expected before I started using it. It's also extremely handy to be able to use the screen as a kind of AF point moving touch pad while using the EVF.
 
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