Canon System (6D) vs Fuji (XT1)

If we forget the differences full frame vs apsc (DOF, ISO performance, picture quality)

Would anyone be able to make a good argument on moving entirely away from the entire canon system for Fuji.

I only have a 16-35/4L. 24-70/2.8L and 70-200/2.8Lii

I could easily subsitute those with XF10-24/4, XF16-55/2.8 and primes. I would skip on the 50-140 entierly if I had to move to a new system.

YES I KNOW 2.8 ON FF IS NOT 2.8 ON APSC.

From functionality, can I do equally good (1) portrait, (2) landscape, (3) timelapse (4) long exposure.

I'm willing to hear opinions. Moving to a much smaller overall system and sacrificing DOF, ISO, IQ, is the functionality of the system better/worse?

The compelling rationale to me:

DSLRs are built with mirrors for blazing fast autofocus and focus tracking. None of the subjects you listed require that, so why use a large, heavy system that revolves entirely around autofocus?

Full-frame DSLRs have been billed as a 'one size fits all' solution, but there are other options for creating great images depending on your artistic needs.

Go for the smaller, lighter system that meets your needs.

OMFGITSNIKO said:

If we forget the differences full frame vs apsc (DOF, ISO performance, picture quality)

Would anyone be able to make a good argument on moving entirely away from the entire canon system for Fuji.

I only have a 16-35/4L. 24-70/2.8L and 70-200/2.8Lii

I could easily subsitute those with XF10-24/4, XF16-55/2.8 and primes. I would skip on the 50-140 entierly if I had to move to a new system.

YES I KNOW 2.8 ON FF IS NOT 2.8 ON APSC.

From functionality, can I do equally good (1) portrait, (2) landscape, (3) timelapse (4) long exposure.

I'm willing to hear opinions. Moving to a much smaller overall system and sacrificing DOF, ISO, IQ, is the functionality of the system better/worse?

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You have an entry level (although very good) full frame camera along with 3 of Canon's best lenses and you're thinking about "switching" to Fuji.

I, personally, think you're nuts.

Naturally, if size makes a difference, the X-T1 and the Fuji lenses would be smaller and Fuji does make very good lenses along with very good cameras but you already have an excellent camera and superb lenses.

You also already have several thousand dollars invested in Canon.

Everyone is different and you should do whatever you think is best for you but there's no way I'd go from a full frame camera and the lenses you currently have to a different system.

Makes no sense unless you're getting too old to contend with the size of the full frame DSLR and those near perfect lenses.

I had the 6D and recently switched to the XT10. Here are some unbiased thoughts:

The 6D has an nice easy to use menu system
The 6D has perfect auto focus with the center point
The 6D has nice ergonomics and a simple practical button layout
The 6D has good image quality and good high ISO
The 6D has fantastic battery life

The XT10 has better image quality. More dynamic range, better detail and better color production
The XT10 has a nice selection of fast compact lenses.
The XT10 will provide a nice WYSIWYG experience thanks to the high quality EVF.

The 6D honestly has more pros, but the overall image quality of the Fuji IMHO is superior to the 6D. As much as I loved the 6D (it is a practical tool), the Fuji is more "fun" to shoot with and I just get a larger "wow" factor every time I review images (Fuji color and dynamic range is simply amazing). I don't think Fuji is for everyone however. I think for most people the 6D is the better tool, but if you want a more compact system that delivers images that will have you saying "holy sh*t" when you bring them into Lightroom, Fuji is a solid choice.

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OMFGITSNIKO said:

If we forget the differences full frame vs apsc (DOF, ISO performance, picture quality)

Would anyone be able to make a good argument on moving entirely away from the entire canon system for Fuji.

I only have a 16-35/4L. 24-70/2.8L and 70-200/2.8Lii

I could easily subsitute those with XF10-24/4, XF16-55/2.8 and primes. I would skip on the 50-140 entierly if I had to move to a new system.

YES I KNOW 2.8 ON FF IS NOT 2.8 ON APSC.

From functionality, can I do equally good (1) portrait, (2) landscape, (3) timelapse (4) long exposure.

I'm willing to hear opinions. Moving to a much smaller overall system and sacrificing DOF, ISO, IQ, is the functionality of the system better/worse?

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You have an entry level (although very good) full frame camera along with 3 of Canon's best lenses and you're thinking about "switching" to Fuji.

I, personally, think you're nuts.

Naturally, if size makes a difference, the X-T1 and the Fuji lenses would be smaller and Fuji does make very good lenses along with very good cameras but you already have an excellent camera and superb lenses.

You also already have several thousand dollars invested in Canon.

Everyone is different and you should do whatever you think is best for you but there's no way I'd go from a full frame camera and the lenses you currently have to a different system.

Makes no sense unless you're getting too old to contend with the size of the full frame DSLR and those near perfect lenses.

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I think its more of an issue of the profile you maintain. Besides not being able to carry a FF camera with you 24/7, you get a much different reaction when interacting with people. I'd rather hold a lesser profile and remain unnoticed.

I originally moved to FF for the DOF and bokeh, while obviously unobtainable for APSC, it has its limits anyway , some 1.2, 1.4 L lenses have such a small DOF they become one-trick ponies.

I noticed this when I bought (and returned) the 85 1.2 L: It was TOO big, TOO shallow. for ME at least. I would have easily traded that massive 85/1.2L for a smaller, slower 85/1.4 or 1.8

I own a number of Canon L zooms and used a variety of Canon bodies over the years including the 6D before switching to Fuji. I switched for one main reason: size/weight.

I'd be hard pressed to say that the Fuji delivers better images than the 6D but it certainly delivers images I am perfectly happy with and I do not miss the 6D at all....well maybe I miss the higher ISO occasionally. The Fuji lenses are just as good as my L lenses and I have the 14/23/27/56 primes that I personally had no equivalent of in the Canon line up. I much prefer using the Fuji primes over the big Canon glass. I find the 18-55 to be just as good as my 28-70L.

I should clarify that I am most interested in travel photography so weight and size are big considerations. Fuji simply kills Canon in that realm. I much prefer using the X-T1 with either the 18-55 or one of the primes as a walk around camera. I cannot believe I hauled around a DSLR and two big zooms for years. It is so much nicer to have a small kit.

The area where Canon DSLR easily wins is with action sports but that is not a strength of the 6D at all so unless one is comparing Fuji to the 7D or 5 series I'd still favor the Fuji.

IslandTractor said:

I own a number of Canon L zooms and used a variety of Canon bodies over the years including the 6D before switching to Fuji. I switched for one main reason: size/weight.

I'd be hard pressed to say that the Fuji delivers better images than the 6D but it certainly delivers images I am perfectly happy with and I do not miss the 6D at all....well maybe I miss the higher ISO occasionally. The Fuji lenses are just as good as my L lenses and I have the 14/23/27/56 primes that I personally had no equivalent of in the Canon line up. I much prefer using the Fuji primes over the big Canon glass. I find the 18-55 to be just as good as my 28-70L.

I should clarify that I am most interested in travel photography so weight and size are big considerations. Fuji simply kills Canon in that realm. I much prefer using the X-T1 with either the 18-55 or one of the primes as a walk around camera. I cannot believe I hauled around a DSLR and two big zooms for years. It is so much nicer to have a small kit.

The area where Canon DSLR easily wins is with action sports but that is not a strength of the 6D at all so unless one is comparing Fuji to the 7D or 5 series I'd still favor the Fuji.

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three years with the 6D and I have never cared for action.

To be honest, I have never even moved it from the center focus point let alone use servo mode.

Like a long-term investor in the stock market, I think I'm better served completing the Canon 6D lineup with a 35mm and 135 prime and close that book, and then start up a dual-system setup but its the most expensive route and longest route.

If I could re-do it all, I would probably have only bought the 6D and some of the praised speciality primes (85/1.2, 135/2) and use Fuji only for one/two primes max and the XF10-24/4, XF16-55/2.8

yes. i just trashed the 85/1.2 two posts ago but it was a comment on the heavy system in general. Niche primes have (limited) fantastic uses. I can't ignore its brilliance.

I'm considering "burning" money as a tangent run and get the xt1 + 18-55 and over time see whats worth replacing or adding to/from canon. Even 10 years from now that 6d will still produce images im happy with.

OMFGITSNIKO said:

IslandTractor said:

I own a number of Canon L zooms and used a variety of Canon bodies over the years including the 6D before switching to Fuji. I switched for one main reason: size/weight.

I'd be hard pressed to say that the Fuji delivers better images than the 6D but it certainly delivers images I am perfectly happy with and I do not miss the 6D at all....well maybe I miss the higher ISO occasionally. The Fuji lenses are just as good as my L lenses and I have the 14/23/27/56 primes that I personally had no equivalent of in the Canon line up. I much prefer using the Fuji primes over the big Canon glass. I find the 18-55 to be just as good as my 28-70L.

I should clarify that I am most interested in travel photography so weight and size are big considerations. Fuji simply kills Canon in that realm. I much prefer using the X-T1 with either the 18-55 or one of the primes as a walk around camera. I cannot believe I hauled around a DSLR and two big zooms for years. It is so much nicer to have a small kit.

The area where Canon DSLR easily wins is with action sports but that is not a strength of the 6D at all so unless one is comparing Fuji to the 7D or 5 series I'd still favor the Fuji.

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three years with the 6D and I have never cared for action.

To be honest, I have never even moved it from the center focus point let alone use servo mode.

Like a long-term investor in the stock market, I think I'm better served completing the Canon 6D lineup with a 35mm and 135 prime and close that book, and then start up a dual-system setup but its the most expensive route and longest route.

If I could re-do it all, I would probably have only bought the 6D and some of the praised speciality primes (85/1.2, 135/2) and use Fuji only for one/two primes max and the XF10-24/4, XF16-55/2.8

yes. i just trashed the 85/1.2 two posts ago but it was a comment on the heavy system in general. Niche primes have (limited) fantastic uses. I can't ignore its brilliance.

I'm considering "burning" money as a tangent run and get the xt1 + 18-55 and over time see whats worth replacing or adding to/from canon. Even 10 years from now that 6d will still produce images im happy with.

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If I was no so interested in travel, I would also stick with the Canon, add the primes you mention and then get either a X-T1 with 18-55 or a X100T for light weight travel. The main reason I gave up on Canon was the travel. I still have my Canon gear but would never ever ever take it on an airplane again. The Fuji (and Ricoh GR) are wonderful for travel.

Hi,

I have 6D, 16-35 IS, 24-70 II, 70-200 II. I already sold the Canon primes.

But I mainly shoot with my Fuji X-T1 plus primes. The main reason is size and weight. I travel a lot and I can't take heavy gear with me all the time. The Canon is sitting at home and I honestly thinking to sell it.

I have a Canon 5DIII with 5 L lenses including the fantastic 24-70 2.8L II, the superb 70-200 f2.8L IS II and the sublime 100 f2.8L IS macro. When I want to get serious, this is the set up that I turn to. However, for travel, holidays and days out the Canon kit is just too heavy and bulky.

I first tried a Canon S90 but got frustrated with performance at high ISO. I moved on to a Sony RX100 which was much better but still not good enough so I bought an X100s which fitted the bill well because it produced the quality I was looking for in a small enough package. My only concern with that camera was the fixed 23mm lens which I found limiting and too wide for my style of photography.

Still wanting something light and portable, I bought an XT1 with the kit lens which was a little less portable than the X100s but still way better than the Canon kit for travel.

Since then I have added a 56mm f1.2 and a 55-200mm to the Fuji and they give me the range I need all housed in a messenger sized bag.

Even still, my wife thinks that kit is too big to take around on days out so I have the XPro2 on order which I will team with my 35mm f2. I picked up an XPro1 case really cheap from Amazon which I hope will fit the new body so that I can take the camera around safely. I am pretty certain that will be the perfect street camera for me and will complement the XT1 well.

So, do I intend to sell the Canon kit and move entirely over to Fuji as many have?

No, for several reasons. As good as the Fuji X system is, it still does not give me the magic of the 5DIII with those L lenses. Perhaps as important, selling the Canon kit would lose me a lot of the money that I have invested. I am fortunate that I don't have to sell to fund the Fuji. However, that was not always the case for me. I once sold a Rollieflex to buy a Canon SLR and regretted doing so. I am not prepared to go down that route again with my DSLR. It is hard to imagine a day when I would want to part with those L series lenses.

Gawd, does "aperture equivalence" irritate me or what. So long as everyone knows it only applies to DoF, not lens speed, I'll tolerate it.

If you've no reason to sell your Canon kit, keep it.

I've owned both as well, and both are capable of outstanding images. You have top of the line lenses as well.

The pros of the 6D, in addition to what others have said, are the AF (still faster than the X-T1 with latest FW) and the high ISO performance. The X-T1 is no slouch in that area, but the 6D can see in the dark. Brilliant

You will definitely see a weight savings with the Fuji kit, but I wouldn't call it exactly "small". I think in order to get the lightest travel kit with good quality, you'd have to go to micro four thirds. The new Pen F with some of the brilliant Oly primes would be a fantastic kit. Does it have "Fuji colors"? No, no one has those, but it does have very good IQ and its own look. You do lose a bit in high ISO performance though.

I sold my 6D kit for the X-T1, and sometimes regret it just for the full frame advantages, but the Fuji film simulations keep me there. I may pick up a 6D again just for certain situations.