More M10 and 15-45 pictures - not a pancake more like 11-22

I don't like how it needs to be unlocked like the 11-22. Adding an unnecessary step imo
It is also a plastic mount and likely a plastic body like the 55-200mm.
From what is in the picture, it is a plastic mount but I doubt it's a plastic body. The 55-200mm has a plastic mount though the body is metal like the other EF-M lens bodies. I have all 4 of the current EF-M lenses and have not had an issue with the plastic mount on the 55-200mm.
 
Still looks fake to me. Look how big is the display part in the first image (width), and then look at the top view. Where is that wide display block?

Anyway thinking about how they could make 1" thick body and some awesome 18mm f/2 pancake, so it would be truly pocketable.
 
I don't like how it needs to be unlocked like the 11-22. Adding an unnecessary step imo
It is also a plastic mount and likely a plastic body like the 55-200mm.
From what is in the picture, it is a plastic mount but I doubt it's a plastic body. The 55-200mm has a plastic mount though the body is metal like the other EF-M lens bodies. I have all 4 of the current EF-M lenses and have not had an issue with the plastic mount on the 55-200mm.
This was discussed quite a bit when the 55-200 was released. It really is a plastic body. It is painted to look identical to the metal bodies of the other lenses, but it is indeed plastic. If you look closely, you can see the parting lines from injection molding process. I used to own this lens. At one point I carefully scratched a small spot on the barrel using a knife and conclusively verified it is plastic.

In the third photo with side-on view, you can faintly see a parting line in the knurling for the zoom ring at the 15mm position. This is similar to the parting lines that are on the 55-200mm lens.

All of the lenses have plastic internals. The 11-22mm, 22mm, and 18-55mm have a metal shell and metal mount. The 55-200mm and now the 15-45mm have a plastic shell with a plastic mount.

Is the plastic mount and plastic body bad? Technically, No. But is does detract from the quality feeling of the system and makes some of lens prices seem questionable. Why is the all plastic 55-200 more expensive than the metal mount 55-250STM? Why is the list price for the all plastic 15-45mm the same as the full metal 18-55mm?
 
I really don't undernstand the 15-45....??? Why make this when the 18-55 seems better? Would rather buy a kit with the 11-22.
Big difference between 15 to 18.

If they made this 15-85 and kept it the same size as the 18-55 then it would appeal to me.

but no reason to get this lens if you have the wide angle and standard kit. Its just another option. In a years time this might go for less than $150 on ebay.
 
I don't like how it needs to be unlocked like the 11-22. Adding an unnecessary step imo
It is also a plastic mount and likely a plastic body like the 55-200mm.
Good. As long as it's the right plastic for the body, anyway - it's a better material than metal for the job.
 
I don't like how it needs to be unlocked like the 11-22. Adding an unnecessary step imo
It is also a plastic mount and likely a plastic body like the 55-200mm.
From what is in the picture, it is a plastic mount but I doubt it's a plastic body. The 55-200mm has a plastic mount though the body is metal like the other EF-M lens bodies. I have all 4 of the current EF-M lenses and have not had an issue with the plastic mount on the 55-200mm.
This was discussed quite a bit when the 55-200 was released. It really is a plastic body. It is painted to look identical to the metal bodies of the other lenses, but it is indeed plastic. If you look closely, you can see the parting lines from injection molding process. I used to own this lens. At one point I carefully scratched a small spot on the barrel using a knife and conclusively verified it is plastic.

In the third photo with side-on view, you can faintly see a parting line in the knurling for the zoom ring at the 15mm position. This is similar to the parting lines that are on the 55-200mm lens.

All of the lenses have plastic internals. The 11-22mm, 22mm, and 18-55mm have a metal shell and metal mount. The 55-200mm and now the 15-45mm have a plastic shell with a plastic mount.

Is the plastic mount and plastic body bad? Technically, No. But is does detract from the quality feeling of the system and makes some of lens prices seem questionable. Why is the all plastic 55-200 more expensive than the metal mount 55-250STM? Why is the list price for the all plastic 15-45mm the same as the full metal 18-55mm?
Where can I get the 55-250STM with a metal mount. Would like one as well.
 
The 15-45 being plastic is a bit disappointing. The two most recent lenses for the M have been plastic. One could make the argument that the 55-200 going plastic was intended for weight since it is the largest of the M lenses but there is no reason that the 15-45 needed to go plastic other than $$$. I hope this is not going to be Canon's approach to all M lenses going forward.
 
I don't like how it needs to be unlocked like the 11-22. Adding an unnecessary step imo
It is also a plastic mount and likely a plastic body like the 55-200mm.
From what is in the picture, it is a plastic mount but I doubt it's a plastic body. The 55-200mm has a plastic mount though the body is metal like the other EF-M lens bodies. I have all 4 of the current EF-M lenses and have not had an issue with the plastic mount on the 55-200mm.
This was discussed quite a bit when the 55-200 was released. It really is a plastic body. It is painted to look identical to the metal bodies of the other lenses, but it is indeed plastic. If you look closely, you can see the parting lines from injection molding process. I used to own this lens. At one point I carefully scratched a small spot on the barrel using a knife and conclusively verified it is plastic.

In the third photo with side-on view, you can faintly see a parting line in the knurling for the zoom ring at the 15mm position. This is similar to the parting lines that are on the 55-200mm lens.

All of the lenses have plastic internals. The 11-22mm, 22mm, and 18-55mm have a metal shell and metal mount. The 55-200mm and now the 15-45mm have a plastic shell with a plastic mount.

Is the plastic mount and plastic body bad? Technically, No. But is does detract from the quality feeling of the system and makes some of lens prices seem questionable. Why is the all plastic 55-200 more expensive than the metal mount 55-250STM? Why is the list price for the all plastic 15-45mm the same as the full metal 18-55mm?
Where can I get the 55-250STM with a metal mount. Would like one as well.
Ooops, nevermind. I am not sure why I was thinking that lens had a metal mount.
 
The 15-45 being plastic is a bit disappointing. The two most recent lenses for the M have been plastic.
I don't know have you used them?

I have all the EF-M lenses and in practice you really can't tell the difference - with the exception that for a 55-200mm lens.. it's amazingly small.

Also I suspect that canon is going to push the dual kit hard in japan - which would be the 15-45, 50-200.
 
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I don't like how it needs to be unlocked like the 11-22. Adding an unnecessary step imo
It is also a plastic mount and likely a plastic body like the 55-200mm.
Good. As long as it's the right plastic for the body, anyway - it's a better material than metal for the job.
Neither plastic nor metal are inherently better and with proper engineering, either will work. However, I definitely prefer the "feel" of the metal lenses that I own.
 
I don't like how it needs to be unlocked like the 11-22. Adding an unnecessary step imo
It is also a plastic mount and likely a plastic body like the 55-200mm.
Good. As long as it's the right plastic for the body, anyway - it's a better material than metal for the job.
Neither plastic nor metal are inherently better and with proper engineering, either will work. However, I definitely prefer the "feel" of the metal lenses that I own.
Either will work is true, but some plastics really are inherently better than metal for this job, as for camera bodies. Most people can't accept that, but then most people have no grasp of the subject. ;)
 
Yes. Kit lens needs to be cheap.
List price is $299 which is the same as the current 18-55mm. It may be cheap to build, but Canon isn't pricing it as such.
$299 for a lens IS cheap the last time i looked.

let's be honest here it's under 300 bucks for a lens and if it follows the others, it's not a half bad optic.
 
I don't like how it needs to be unlocked like the 11-22. Adding an unnecessary step imo
It is also a plastic mount and likely a plastic body like the 55-200mm.
Good. As long as it's the right plastic for the body, anyway - it's a better material than metal for the job.
Neither plastic nor metal are inherently better and with proper engineering, either will work. However, I definitely prefer the "feel" of the metal lenses that I own.
Either will work is true, but some plastics really are inherently better than metal for this job, as for camera bodies.
For cheap and efficient, yes, it is tough to beat injection molded plastic. Technically, the lens could feasibly be built from wood. It is all a balancing act.
Most people can't accept that, but then most people have no grasp of the subject. ;)
Heck, I have a degree in the subject. Sometimes what the hands feel and the heart wants override what the brain knows.
 
One of M10's main targets is entry-level users who want to upgrade their compact camera; especially young women who prefer a tilting LCD for selfie to a EVF.

For them, a zoom lens started from 15mm is perfect, and they will prefer 15-45mm to 11-22mm and 18-55mm.

If M10's detail price is reasonable, I think that M10 will be sold very well in Japan where Olympus E-PL6 is the current best seller mirror-less camera.
 
One of M10's main targets is entry-level users who want to upgrade their compact camera; especially young women who prefer a tilting LCD for selfie to a EVF.

For them, a zoom lens started from 15mm is perfect, and they will prefer 15-45mm to 11-22mm and 18-55mm.

If M10's detail price is reasonable, I think that M10 will be sold very well in Japan where Olympus E-PL6 is the current best seller mirror-less camera.
The issue with that is the Olympus E-PL6 is only $299 right now. The E-PL7 is $499 right now which is what the EOS M10 is probably going to be with the 15-45mm lens.
 

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