Windows 10 slows down both NXD and LR5

Hi has anyone else noticed that on windows 10 both NXD and LR5 go slower.

I especially notice when I click on a D800 NEF in both programmes to show 100% and it now takes a couple of seconds to complete.

I am not sure that the performance of one outdated program and one new poorly written program are a guage of anything.

RoyC01 said:

I am not sure that the performance of one outdated program and one new poorly written program are a guage of anything.

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Well that's what I use and it was all working fine on Windows 8.1 as I guess do a lot of other people.

So what software do you use and does it perform OK now you've updated to Windows 10? Especially the ability to quickly zoom into 100% by a simple click. If you have a different solution which works well on Windows 10 I'd like to know what it is.

Apparently this is also noticed on lightroom 6.11

Is there anyone who has upgraded to windows 10 and are still running OK?

Not sure if this will help, but I also had problems when moving to W10. My Lightroom (CC version) was going slow and when trying to go into Develop mode would freeze.

The solution was to disable "use graphics processor" in the preferences. Once I did this it worked equally as well as in W8.1. I expect there will be an automatic update come through at some point to fix this - the only benefit of a (most disliked) subscription version!

I would add that I have a pretty fast machine, but even before the windows update it was running a little bit slow as the machine is due a good clean - programmatically speaking - but having made the above change, I do not notice Lightroom running any slower than before.

It might be worth a try??

EDIT: And as this could all be graphics driver related, then it is worth ensuring you have gone to your card providers website and got the latest W10 drivers as well....

Yes. Unless you have a very big video card, uncheck the graphics.

I downgraded my desktop to 8.1 and there wasn't a lot of change, perhaps a bit. It does look like the interation between windows and the graphics card though.

Once the picture has been loaded onto the graphics card (or maybe its main memory) and used a couple of times then the dalay goes away. This doesn't help me much as I use the 100% quick view as a quick delete option when doing my inital scan of photos. If they're not that sharp I just delete them. So this delay adds about 5 seconds per picture to the process. As after some shoots this equates to 1200 picturs that's 6000 seconds or 100 minutes which is a lot of time.

I know that windows 10 has changed its use of graphics cards so this maybe a source of the problem.

My laptop graphics card was updated as part of the move to windows 10 and as its intel then I assume there may be some more updates to fix the problem.

By the way in LR5 you can't turn off grahics HW acceleration that came into LR6.

Anyway I'll keep experimenting until its fixed and let everyone know. In the meantime if anyone else has any ideas let me know.

I'll go see how my desktop re-upgrade to windows 10 is going. Its prety quick to downgrade but it takes much longer to upgrade.

Reilly Diefenbach said:

Yes. Unless you have a very big video card, uncheck the graphics.

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2gb card, I need to check the firmware on my desktop.

LR is noticeably faster on Win 10 than 8.1 on my machine.
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LR is noticeably faster on Win 10 than 8.1 on my machine.
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LR is OK except when its rendering RAW for the first time. I am coming to the conclusion its how windows handles graphics in Win 10.

Windows Vista was 50% slower than Windows XP and Windows 7 was only 10% faster than Vista (according to Microsoft's statements). I would expect that Windows 10 with its added layers would reduce performance even more.

Most users bought new computers with faster processors and faster memory along with Windows 7 or 8 and so were not as aware of the big performance hit from Microsoft's operating system kludge.

For heavy batch processing of thousands of images I use a Mac workstation as OS X is much more efficient and I can work twice as fast. Same processors and RAM but more efficient operating system and quite a difference.

Service Pack 1 for Windows 10 may fix in part the performance problems but I would not hold my breath and I would not install Windows 10 on a computer until this service pack has been released and tested by others.

romfordbluenose said:

Apparently this is also noticed on lightroom 6.11

Is there anyone who has upgraded to windows 10 and are still running OK?

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Hi,

I have updated to Windows 10 and Capture NX2 running definitely faster and LR CC 2015 running no slower than on Windows 7. I did not do any measurements, just visual observation.

romfordbluenose said:

A Owens said:

LR is noticeably faster on Win 10 than 8.1 on my machine.
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LR is OK except when its rendering RAW for the first time. I am coming to the conclusion its how windows handles graphics in Win 10.

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When rendering raw for first time, it of course needs to build the preview so 2 secs is not unusual. Once preview is built though, rendering should be near instant. There is also differences between Library and Develop module rendering times.
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<<Service Pack 1 for Windows 10 may fix in part the performance problems but I would not hold my breath and I would not install Windows 10 on a computer until this service pack has been released and tested by others.>>

It has been said by those with more digital sense than I, that the days of service packs might be over..............frequent (now daily, it seems) Windows updates have supplanted (I hope) ever needing a service pack.

I have LR5, NXD, and ViewNX2. Upgraded from Win 7 Pro to Win 10. I haven't noticed a slowdown with any of the programs. They may take a few seconds longer to launch, but that is it.

Lucky Sky said:

<<Service Pack 1 for Windows 10 may fix in part the performance problems but I would not hold my breath and I would not install Windows 10 on a computer until this service pack has been released and tested by others.>>

It has been said by those with more digital sense than I, that the days of service packs might be over..............frequent (now daily, it seems) Windows updates have supplanted (I hope) ever needing a service pack.

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I doubt it. Windows update has been around since Windows 95, what do you think has changed? And as they get to X number of updates, they create a service pack and subsequent disks sold have all those updates baked in. Saves a new buyer from having to install 375 updates the first time they turn on the machine.

Have found out that windows 10 tries to update all the relevant drivers on the machine but it doesn't have them all. My intel graphics driver was updated (on laptop), on my PC the NVIDEA one wasn't but is now.

I have regressed back to 8.1 and that didn't help so I'm going to move forward with windows 10 now I have all the drivers updated.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

I haven't found Win10 faster for Adobe Photoshop CC2015. It "feels" slower than how PS functioned on my Win7 setup. DXO Optics Pro 10 is definitely slower now that I am on Win10.

Perhaps the problem is that the Win10 continuous updating process is faulty. If you look at the Microsoft Community website (forum) you will see that a number of people are now reporting Win10 crashes related to the Start Menu and Cortina; including me. Others are reporting various app crashes in Win10 after its initial successful installation and operation. MS technical assistance has yet to solve the problem. MS has suggested a number of possible glitches related to later changes made to Win10 during its continuous updating process.

I was wondering what went wrong when the Lightroom CC performance went down.

I have multiple SSDs in my Laptop, and always got amazing response when in Windows 8.1

After jumping boat to Windows 10, I formatted my Laptop and installed almost everything again. And immediately I started seeing such pathetic performance esp when selecting an Image (from the bottom part) and zooming in/out.

I hope Microsoft or Adobe fix this soon.

Another thing I noticed was CPU being used like crazzy !!!