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Why the Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark II so unpopular?
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bigdaddave
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bigdaddave
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Because it's really not as good a camera as the G1X, which is a bit odd, but produces fantastic files - the best of any compact
You must be new to Flickr.
Those Flickr upload stats are notoriously unreliable and should NOT be taken as the gospel truth. In many, many cases they make absolutely no logical sense.
I suspect there are several reasons for this:
It really is best to take these stats with a very large grain of salt. They might be right, but they often are wrong, do just don't expect a high level of accuracy.
Those Flickr upload stats are notoriously unreliable and should NOT be taken as the gospel truth. In many, many cases they make absolutely no logical sense.
I suspect there are several reasons for this:
- Cameras are frequently misclassified . MILC cameras are sometimes listed as Point and Shoot, and other times listed as DSLRs.
- Sometimes uploads are made, and not recorded by their database.
- Some cameras are completely omitted. And even some very popular cameras are completely left off the upload database.
- Sometimes the Mark II numbers are included with the Mark I model. And vice verse.
It really is best to take these stats with a very large grain of salt. They might be right, but they often are wrong, do just don't expect a high level of accuracy.
pacnwhobbyist
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A fine camera with great image quality. It also does well in damp environments as I had very little issues with the LCD fogging up. Because it is built like a tank, it feels almost the same weight as a Rebel with kit lens. I look at it more as a fixed-lens Rebel. And I kind of wonder if some people were turned off by that and went with the G7X instead.
I bought it for the size and weight...kind of. Sold my Sony RX 100 and went with a G1X ii. I was never that happy with the Sony, too small and while the pictures were very good, the color was not what I was use to coming from a G9 for many years. The G1X ii just feels right in my hands and unlike the Sony its easy to use (the Sony kind of felt like a toy and everything was just too small about it).
For me the best camera is the one that works best for me and its the G1X ii, so far I am pleased with the results from the first few weeks with it.
For me the best camera is the one that works best for me and its the G1X ii, so far I am pleased with the results from the first few weeks with it.
grimlock361
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You make a good point here but the reason for my and others negativity is that many of us actually like canon but wish they would do better. While threads like this do indeed invite the typical "canonator bashing trolls", who usually have poor photography skills and suffer from an inferiority complex, some of us are just venting in hopes that maybe somebody from canon is listening. I have always loved the G series cameras. They have always been made for the enthusiast. Now they are made for mass market appeal. The G1x mark II and G7x are cameras with an identify crisis. Canon as a company needs to reconnect with its enthusiast user base and leave the pocket cameras for the masses.
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Jostian
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its way better than the original... and yes the GiX MkII is a niche camera, dont think its a 'mass market appeal' camera, and it is what it is, a large sensor compact, the only one of its kind, which I think is great. the G7X is like the spiritual successor to the S120 I guess, but the G1X, G1X MkII are just Canon's large sensor compacts, which provide DSLR IQ in a smaller package.
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OzarkAggie
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I guess everyone is entitled to an opinion.
No. They just don't fit YOUR niches. They are superb third tier cameras for me. (Behind DSLR and M43)
That's a relief.
bigdaddave
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I don't understand the IQ difference. The sensors are the same and I would think that the Mark II should do better because you learned from the first design and improved on it.
Jostian
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Jostian
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IQ? What? Do you own a G1XMII? Can you show us your photos from both cameras to prove you IQ point?
OzarkAggie
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In order to fit the lens they had to reduce the image circle and so it went from 14.3 mp to 12.8 mp on the MII. Doesn't sound like much but side by side you can see the difference on the chart. Take RAW up to 6400 ISO and there's a degradation in resolution despite as some claim a slightly better lens. You think moire and chroma noise would improve but neither is the case.
I waited for Mark II thinking it would be better, and as I've said before I was happy to get a discount on the G1X. I opted for the Cowboy butterfly lens cap which is not available with the Mark II, and there's something weird about its lens cover as I heard a couple of guys complain about it scratching the front element.
Newer doesn't mean better.
I did not realize that Mark II went back to the old lens shutter mechanism, which seems to be the weakest link of compact cameras. Removable lens cap isn't that much of a big deal when one is used to DSLRs.
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There are some parts of the image very slightly better in the G1X image, and some other parts very slightly better in the G1X.II image. On the whole I'd agree that at this level of minuscule differences the G1X.II image is ever so slightly behind. Between the potential sample to sample variation of camera bodies and the potential differences in the particular implementation of the chosen raw developer, they are for all practical matters very close to identical, IMHO.
The fact that the II would allow you under certain circumstances to select a lower ISO, or to zoom in a little bit more, will have a far bigger influence on the comparative IQ between the two.
That said, if you believe you see a meaningful difference on that test chart then that's fine with me. We can't all be expected to see things the same way.
BTW the maximum resolutions are 14.2 and 13.0 (12.98 if you insist) mp respectively, and that's really less than 200 pixels difference in each direction.
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