Surprise: Zeiss to launch two amazing new FE autofocus lenses today!

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/

Rumroed to be 25mm 2.0 and 85mm 1.8!!!!
Will not wait for reviews on this one, I'll pre-order it right away! Been requesting this lens for the longest time. Anxious to shoot some pro tennis and capture Genie, Maria, Ana and the gang and Taylor when she does her concert tour.

Also, looking forward to do some model headshots with this lens-----it'll be like a 135mm lens on my A6000!

Cheers,

José
I'll be first in queue to see you work! :)

I knew this would excite you hahaha. It's on my list as well!
thanks man, been waiting for so long.

Cheers,

José
:)

With the latest firmware of the A6000 and the 32mm Zeiss, how do you rate the AF?

Because I hope that this Batis series have silent AF and support OSPDAF like the Sony Zeiss lenses. If so they are definite no brainers if you are in the market for the fl.
 
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Looks like it's not up for preorder on Amazon.
 
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/

Rumroed to be 25mm 2.0 and 85mm 1.8!!!!
They look a bit like Touits. Not sure what I think about OLED scales.

But these links that point to BH and Adorama kind of imply that you have to buy the shade separately. Fortunately, it actually does come with the shade.
 
There was an interesting comment made on SonyAlphaLabs in their discussion about these new lenses.

The dialogue went like this -

Poster - "Are the Batis a sign for the future Sony PRO-mirrorless cameras? Now, while we suffer from first GAS attacks, CaNikon looks like... not so up to date. Hope to see reviews soon and starting to write down arguments, why the purchase of this system is inevitable."

Response by SAR Admin - "Batis or no Batis. It's 100% sure PRO mirrorless will come this year."

Then just below that post the SAR Admin made this statement in response to a different poster - "The PRO line is above the A7 line. And it's bigger and better built."



I don't know where they get their info but seem very confident about a Pro line, which sadly, is not applicable to me at this time...
 
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/

Rumroed to be 25mm 2.0 and 85mm 1.8!!!!
I think the 85 may well change a few peoples opinion on A7/A7ii auto focus as this may well be a lens that can be used for sport more so than the 55 due to the longer focal length.

The 85 A7s combination may be perfect for me for live music.

I thought I was done buying lenses but gee if it is as good as any "normal" Zeiss, that 85 will find a way in my bag soon enough.

Maybe it is time to sell a few legacy lenses (actually the time would have been before these new lenses were announced ....or pre-announced).

25 could be pretty decent too but I love the Canon 24 L TS-E too much to really be interested.
 
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With the latest firmware of the A6000 and the 32mm Zeiss, how do you rate the AF?

Because I hope that this Batis series have silent AF and support OSPDAF like the Sony Zeiss lenses. If so they are definite no brainers if you are in the market for the fl.
I have yet to send my Touit 32 for firmware upgrade. Right now I am good with the AF------it's not fast but it is OK with the A6000.
 
Will not wait for reviews on this one, I'll pre-order it right away! Been requesting this lens for the longest time. Anxious to shoot some pro tennis and capture Genie, Maria, Ana and the gang and Taylor when she does her concert tour.

Also, looking forward to do some model headshots with this lens-----it'll be like a 135mm lens on my A6000!
in general I do share your excitement :D :D

However, one minor and one major point:
  • the minor one is that at this price point it should be 85/1.4 - the f/1.8 smacks of false economy :) ;
  • and much more importantly would be the real AF'ing performance, speed and above all accuracy in the fast, dynamic action shooting scenarios;
  • e.g. the Touit 32mm was rather a big disappointment in this respect - even more so as the 32mm is not exactly a topmost challenge due to relatively large DOF;
Also, that OLED-on-the-barrel "revolution" seems more like a marketing gimmick rather than a real thing = the same info would be much more useful when visible through VF :(

jpr2
The optical size/weight implications of f1.4 vs. f1.8 are very significant. Photographically, they are insignificant.
as I wrote before - this is a minor point, very minor - in fact more like an observation, but... Zeiss wants to charge f/1.4 price for a 85/1.8 lens,

nothing more than that (then in concordance with one's wallet depth some might take an offense = plenty of examples for that in this very thread already, while others shrug their collective shoulders and... WAIT for the AF'ing speed & accuracy test results :) :D ),

jpr2
 
Will not wait for reviews on this one, I'll pre-order it right away! Been requesting this lens for the longest time. Anxious to shoot some pro tennis and capture Genie, Maria, Ana and the gang and Taylor when she does her concert tour.

Also, looking forward to do some model headshots with this lens-----it'll be like a 135mm lens on my A6000!
in general I do share your excitement :D :D

However, one minor and one major point:
  • the minor one is that at this price point it should be 85/1.4 - the f/1.8 smacks of false economy :) ;
  • and much more importantly would be the real AF'ing performance, speed and above all accuracy in the fast, dynamic action shooting scenarios;
  • e.g. the Touit 32mm was rather a big disappointment in this respect - even more so as the 32mm is not exactly a topmost challenge due to relatively large DOF;
Also, that OLED-on-the-barrel "revolution" seems more like a marketing gimmick rather than a real thing = the same info would be much more useful when visible through VF :(

jpr2

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An 85/1.4 would have been nice but then again----it'll look very 'pro-ish' (might be kicked out of events), big, heavier and more expensive. The f/1.8 is just right.

I expect the AF performance will be like my Sonnar 55 which is very fast with the A6000.

José
 
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The Canikon DSLRs usually have the cheap f1.8 options and then the faster and more expensive options.
Yea, and then you're stuck with a EVF-less relic that ratchet straps you to one lens system for ever and ever. If this were two thousand aught three... maybe.
As if you're going to use the same digicam for the next 30-40 years...
No, and I don't want to be a slave to Canon's lenses. They will never let you go. You are in servitude to your master. Canon cowers at the thought of one of their users popping on a Contax G90 and learning for the first time what real image quality is.
Then I hope you boycott native Sony lenses because you can not use them on non-Sony cameras. Oh no servitude again!

But seriously the point remains, a 1000+ bucks for these lenses is a bit outrageous. 85mm is not exotic nor is f1.8. It doesn't encourage to buy into the system if you know how Sony bleeds you dry after you buy the "cheap" camera bodies.
But these aren't Sony lenses?
 
It will be interesting to see how the pricing and performance of the Sony 90mm and Zeiss 85mm compare.

Always good to have more quality choices.
The Sony 90mm G is $999 (w. lens hood) and the Zeiss Batis 85mm is $1199 and $1254 with Otus like metal lens hood.
I wonder if the performance will be sufficiently similar, or if the Zeiss premium will represent a good value, comparatively speaking.
 
F1.8 alone will be worth the price premium. The Zeiss seems to undercut the Sony offering IMO. It has OSS, a stop faster, OLED stuff, smaller. But of course now we know why Sony offered the 90mm instead of making 85mm. If you need a macro lens than there's no question the 90mm will be better suited.
 
The 85 mm has optical stabilisation ,something which Zeiss has stated in the past degrades optical quality, have they changed their minds for some reason or are they making compromises ?
 
There was an interesting comment made on SonyAlphaLabs in their discussion about these new lenses.

The dialogue went like this -

Poster - "Are the Batis a sign for the future Sony PRO-mirrorless cameras? Now, while we suffer from first GAS attacks, CaNikon looks like... not so up to date. Hope to see reviews soon and starting to write down arguments, why the purchase of this system is inevitable."

Response by SAR Admin - "Batis or no Batis. It's 100% sure PRO mirrorless will come this year."

Then just below that post the SAR Admin made this statement in response to a different poster - "The PRO line is above the A7 line. And it's bigger and better built."

I don't know where they get their info but seem very confident about a Pro line, which sadly, is not applicable to me at this time...

Bad news for the other 95% of the market......

I would love them to go the other way... make a lens line equivalent to Canon's STM. Man, without the ability to run other lenses and the aftermarket's strong support to do so I feel like the FE mount would be a little DOA. Almost makes more sense to buy another camera for when you need good and quick AF (or don't need FF level low light capacity) and just get an A7x body for MF use only. The way it looks now piecing together a full range native FE kit with a new body will be at least $3000.
 
Bad news for the other 95% of the market......

I would love them to go the other way... make a lens line equivalent to Canon's STM. Man, without the ability to run other lenses and the aftermarket's strong support to do so I feel like the FE mount would be a little DOA. Almost makes more sense to buy another camera for when you need good and quick AF (or don't need FF level low light capacity) and just get an A7x body for MF use only. The way it looks now piecing together a full range native FE kit with a new body will be at least $3000.
Have you seen the prices on, say...NX1? $2,800 for a kit... on a crop sensor, nonetheless. Innovation and quality costs $$
 

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