Ok, so I was set on a DSLR and now I'm not to sure. I already ordered a Nikon 5300, but I can return it. Hasn't even shipped yet. Therefore I'm not invested in anything and a complete noob. I wanted to use my camera as a hobby, but maybe later on sell some photos on etsy or something. I usually tend to take pictures with my iphone and now I want something that will be a bit more professional. I've actually been able to sell some iphone shots online so photography has got me interested in it as a way to make some money on the side. I tend to shoot nature, structures, and people who happen to be on the scene. No sports shooting or trying to capture kids/animals as of yet at least. I want what will be best going forward and what will help me advance and learn photography at its full scale. I've been reading mirrorless are practically on the same playing field and will soon edge out the DSLR, but don't believe everything you read right? So this is where I'd like a little help in which direction I should head.
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Leonard Migliore
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Why not just take pictures with the D5300? I'm sure that that will keep you occupied until mirrorless cameras make it obsolete. At that time, you will be able to decide what to do next based on your own experience.
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tedolf
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First decide whether you want a live view or an optical view camera. That will essentially answer your question.
If you do not understand the advantages and disadvantages of each immediately cancel your order or return the camera. You have a lot of research to do before you start making any decisions.
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dlnevins
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I agree with this. Also, how large/bulky/heavy a camera are you willing to tote around? Some DSLRs are small, but most are fairly sizable machines. Many (but not all!) mirrorless systems can be significantly smaller and lighter in weight - but for some people, that becomes a problem because the camera bodies are too small to fit their hands well.
I'd cancel your order and spend some time handling both DSLRs and mirrorless systems to see what you like in a camera and what's a deal-killer for you. If you do decide on a DSLR, you can buy the Nikon then. ANY of these cameras is going to be a huge step up from you smartphone, so it will be hard to go too far wrong.
I'd cancel your order and spend some time handling both DSLRs and mirrorless systems to see what you like in a camera and what's a deal-killer for you. If you do decide on a DSLR, you can buy the Nikon then. ANY of these cameras is going to be a huge step up from you smartphone, so it will be hard to go too far wrong.
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The mirrorless segment has been badly overhyped. Mirrorless cameras are a dime a dozen and tend to go on clearance for a fraction of their original price. Some will survive, but rest assured that a number of fairly recent mirrorless lens mounts will disappear in the next few years. Prepare to be saddled with an orphan.
As far as your D5300, you'll be limited by a fairly small and dim viewfinder, not to mention limited manual controls. A D7000 or D7100 is a better camera in an absolute sense, as you don't have to routinely consult menus to change setting, just turn a dial. The big, bright viewfinder is also a joy to use, unlike the smaller consumer models.
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davidedric
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Yes, and as said, a good thing if you don't need to have the latest gear. Really a reflection of a market that has been developing much rapidly than dslr's, though Panasonic have now slowed a bit and may be rationalizing their range.
I think you are pretty safe with micro 4/3. Two manufacturers and a wide range of lenses.
Declaration of interest. I am in the process of moving from dslr to mirrorless.
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There have been 9 new mirrorless lens mounts since 2008. Of those, one is already effectively dead, and at best 4 or 5 will survive another 5 years. My guess is that with the decline of the camera industry, we'll be seeing a number of manufacturers outright disappear. Actually, there are two that would have disappeared if larger companies hadn't intervened financially.
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It's more than two, now that JK Imaging has a "Kodak" branded M43 body and a couple of lenses. There's also the BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera, which uses a dumb M43 mount and a sensor that isn't M43. The third party lens selection is the best for the mirrorless segment.
Of course, we should all remember that FourThirds users were burned by the switch to M43 and that Olympus was rescued by Sony. What is Sony planning for the Olympus brand and M43? I don't know?
tedolf
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Panasonic, Kodak, Olympus, Black Magic and soon JVC just for bodies.
More than 60 native lenses with about a dozen manufacturers?
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tedolf
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Nope, active mount:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/searc...et+cinema+camera&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ps
It's close in size, but dimensionally optimized for video and for dynamic range.
How so?
All the 4/3 lenses are useable with full functionality on the EM-1.
In fact, some of the 4/3 lenses work better on the EM-1 than they did on some of the 4/3 DSLR bodies!
Sony has a minority interest in the company, as do a lot of other shareholders.
Nothing.
They don't have a controlling interest and basically invested to get into Oly's much larger medical imaging business. The camera business is only a small part of the Olympus company and only represents a small part of the company's revenue.
Indeed.
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M43 Dude
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If you go mirrorless now you wont be able to upgrade to full frame later without buying a new system and new lenses, but the gap between mirrored and mirrorless is always getting smaller. It just depends really how far you see yourself advancing.
tedolf
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Basically almost nobody needs to upgrade to full frame.
Even the wedding photographers have either already switched or are in the process of switching to crop sensor cameras.
Full frame is going the way that medium frame went a generation ago.
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neil holmes
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Which ones?
Pentax tried a mirrorless but used the K mount ...not a new mount and that is part of the reason it was not so well received I think. Q mount is a fun little thing that seems to have been mainly aimed at the Japanese market ( a fun little thing, was one of my favourites).
Nikon and Canon have not thrown all their resources into mirrorless yet (the 1 and M mounts may well have just been testing the waters) .....I think they will shortly come up with a lot more though.
Fuji seems to be going ok, same with Sony E mount (both FF and APSC), same with M4/3 mount.
Samsung seems to be just starting and may do best of all. Leica is Leica and will sell what it wants.
No DSLRs have gone away though hey........Fuji, Kodak, Leica DSLRs R.I.P
Oh and Sony doesn't have true DSLRs anymore but use the SLTs.......fixed mirror with EVF.
Is Sigma still making DSLRs? last was the SD1 Merrill in FEB 2012 ...nearly three years ago.
Mirrorless cameras ARE the future short term.....long term we may well be using something completely different. Today, for MY purposes Mirrorless are far better than DSLRs (others will still prefer DSLRs). EVFs are simply much better for me than OVFs (and I have had lots of OVF cameras and still own many that are not used anymore).
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tedolf
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Yes, which ones.
How long are you going to avoid answering?
Doesn't count. That mount was abandoned years ago. You said, "a number of fairly recent mirrorless lens mounts will disappear in the next few years."
That is in the future tense.
So how about it, again, which ones?!
Blah, blah blah.
Which ones?!
Is that one of them?
C'mon........don't keep us in suspense.
You said with such certainty that, "a number of fairly recent mirrorless lens mounts will disappear in the next few years" that surely you must know which ones they are, right?
Well?
Blah, blah, blah.
WHICH ONES!?
So it's not Sony,
it's not M4/3,
it's......it's......
Well which one is it!
So it's not Leica, it's not Samsung.....
it's......it's......
Well which one is it?
????
Now I am really confused.
and.........
so it must be.......?
Who knows, who cares?
Uh......
Ah, so it is none of them?
Oh, so it is all of them?
All of them!
So that means that the following "fairly recent mirrorless lens mounts will disappear in the next few years":
?
I love a man who backs up his bold assertions with confidence.
TEdolph
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neil holmes
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UMM, I am not Noflashplease
No I didn't, HE (Noflashplease) did.
Obviously!
Trouble is you are not replying to the right person!
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