New Firmware 1.0.1 out

Adam-T · Jun 25, 2003

No just used the Menu option - in theory this should just reset the Custom and personal functions but on BOTH occasions it made this sharpness difference, the first time,I'd not set any functions up and even now I'd NEVER set the camera to sharpness +1 or +2 , it's always been in the middle

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DavidP #28649 · Jun 25, 2003

I once had a Gainward tech ask me "why you want flash BIOS on PC?".

To which I reponded: "why you put BIOS flash on web?"

adydula said:
Also if you flash to this firmware, YOU CAN NOT FLASH BACK unless
you send the camera back to a Canon servie center!!

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Hu · Jun 25, 2003

Kevin Vian said:
You are not supposed to use IS when the camera is on a tripod.
Canon says the IS will malfunction (at least on the consumer lenses

don't know about "L"s).

Kevin,

You are right of course about some of the IS lenses supposed to be turned off or turning themselves off if they decide they are on a tripod. I just found it surprising that the subject would drift completely out of the view finder. I wouldn't have thought that the IS had that much movement in it.

The two mode IS used in the 100-400 seems to work just fine on the tripod while the single mode in the 28-135 doesn't. I did some fairly careful testing the other day and one thing that seemed apparent was that pictures were distinctly softer with IS on. No doubt one reason Canon says to turn it off when you can.

IS gets a lot of shots I would miss otherwise and makes it awful tempting to leave a tripod/monopod behind but in some respects my verdict is still out on it. I'd like to use a piece of fast IS glass awhile for testing.

Hu

cybil · Jun 25, 2003

darn it.......
Now its ff with my 16-35.
I would not load this if I were you........

RichW · Jun 25, 2003

Boy oh boy, this ought to be quite a thread.

Rich

Mel Boonstra said:
Just installed firmware and am DEFINATLEY getting sharper images,
and I was not unhappy before firmware, double bonus.

Steven Noyes · Jun 25, 2003

I see people post this and think... They really don't understand metering on an SLR. The meter was NEVER designed not ato blow out highlights. P&S might meter that way, but not an SLR. They expose to set the metered area to 18% gray. If that causes highlights to blow out, then so be it. The matrix metering is designed to try and expose the subject to 18% grey taking into account different surrounding light (backlight/very dark background). But the fact remains highlights may have to be blown out to get the exposure correct on the subject.

If you do not want blown highlights, it is YOUR responsibility to control the contrast so it does not happen.

Steven

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Hu · Jun 25, 2003

Ashley Cheng said:
As for the sharpness part, I don't notice any obvious difference.
However, it's "plausible" that images might get sharper after a
firmware change. Canon might have changed the degree of in-camera
sharpening.

Not sure if it's great minds or just suspicious minds but I too am wondering if Canon just added a little default sharpening to the neutral setting and moved the entire curve a bit to reduce the soft focus complaints.

Hu

jaycee · Jun 25, 2003

Thanks.

I copy the 10DV101fir on to the CF Card, insert the card to 10D, turn the main switch on, nothing happend. Can you tell me what's wrong?

Lars Johnsson said:
JayCee said:

Lars Johnsson said:

You have to run the exe and unpack it first, then copy all files to
card.

Simon-Ph said:

brooke said:

Marc Keune said:

See

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and remove the ';' from the link!

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1ofUs! · Jun 25, 2003

DavidP said:
High ISO will indicate lower number of images, Low ISO will
indicate a higher number of images.

I thought it must be something obvious like that - but really - it was on ISO 100! honest. I know because I read down the thread about the highlights so I tried it out in full sun on some bright highlights -when I did that I set it to ISO 100. I was perplexed about the lowered number of images, turned the camera on and off, formatted the drive, still nothing. Then I saw the thing about clearing the settings and it instantly snapped up to 425. I can't think of anything I had in the settings that would cause that. And yesterday while out shooting I had plenty of images to go around (even at ISO 400).

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DavidP #28649 · Jun 25, 2003

OK, now that's confusing!

1ofUs! said:
DavidP said:

High ISO will indicate lower number of images, Low ISO will
indicate a higher number of images.

Click to expand...

I thought it must be something obvious like that - but really - it
was on ISO 100! honest. I know because I read down the thread
about the highlights so I tried it out in full sun on some bright
highlights -when I did that I set it to ISO 100. I was perplexed
about the lowered number of images, turned the camera on and off,
formatted the drive, still nothing. Then I saw the thing about
clearing the settings and it instantly snapped up to 425. I can't
think of anything I had in the settings that would cause that. And
yesterday while out shooting I had plenty of images to go around
(even at ISO 400).

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Olga Johnson · Jun 25, 2003

jaycee said:
I copy the 10DV101fir on to the CF Card, insert the card to 10D,
turn the main switch on, nothing happend. Can you tell me what's
wrong?

Make sure that an actual copy of the file is on the flash card. Sometimes by just dragging the file all you do is create a shortcut.

Olga

Martinwo · Jun 25, 2003

Marc Keune said:
See

;

and remove the ';' from the link!

jaycee · Jun 25, 2003

Thank you Olga, I checked the file on CF card, it's there (1.27MB), but not in Canon folder though, it's side by side with Canon folder. I insert the card, tun on the 10D, still nothing happend.

Olga Johnson said:
Olga Johnson said:

I copy the 10DV101fir on to the CF Card, insert the card to 10D,
turn the main switch on, nothing happend. Can you tell me what's
wrong?

Click to expand...

Make sure that an actual copy of the file is on the flash card.
Sometimes by just dragging the file all you do is create a shortcut.

Olga

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cybil · Jun 25, 2003

My 70-200 is ok but my 16-35 now ff's. It seems to have fixed blown highlights though. Can you load 1.00 by renaming it 1.02?

DavidP #28649 · Jun 25, 2003

Actually, I think that evaluative metering algorithms are often "tweaked" to give desired results. Perhaps for digital cameras with a tendency towards a bit of underexposure to preserve highlights.

The meter itself is still calibrated the same (to 13% gray, not 18%, BTW), but the evaluative algorithm could be tweaked via firmware.

Steven Noyes said:
I see people post this and think... They really don't understand
metering on an SLR. The meter was NEVER designed not ato blow out
highlights. P&S might meter that way, but not an SLR. They expose
to set the metered area to 18% gray. If that causes highlights to
blow out, then so be it. The matrix metering is designed to try
and expose the subject to 18% grey taking into account different
surrounding light (backlight/very dark background). But the fact
remains highlights may have to be blown out to get the exposure
correct on the subject.

If you do not want blown highlights, it is YOUR responsibility to
control the contrast so it does not happen.

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Olga Johnson · Jun 25, 2003

JayCee said:
Thank you Olga, I checked the file on CF card, it's there (1.27MB),
but not in Canon folder though, it's side by side with Canon
folder. I insert the card, tun on the 10D, still nothing happend.

Make absolutely sure that the file name is correct:

10DV101.fir

Earlier in one of your messages it was misspelled, or at least the dot was missing.

Olga

Spencer47022 · Jun 25, 2003

go back once you committed..

cybil said:
My 70-200 is ok but my 16-35 now ff's. It seems to have fixed blown
highlights though. Can you load 1.00 by renaming it 1.02?

Mun Weng · Jun 25, 2003

mine was done yesterday:

camera is brand new and already loaded with 1.0.1 firmware

Martinwo said:
Marc Keune said:

See

;

and remove the ';' from the link!

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Spencer47022 · Jun 25, 2003

your other posts it is apparent you were. Ok to do one or 2 but why waste everybody's time by posting nonsense?

Spencer said:
cybil said:

My 70-200 is ok but my 16-35 now ff's. It seems to have fixed blown
highlights though. Can you load 1.00 by renaming it 1.02?

Click to expand...

jaycee · Jun 25, 2003

that was misspelled. IT IS 10DV101.fir

Olga Johnson said:
JayCee said:

Thank you Olga, I checked the file on CF card, it's there (1.27MB),
but not in Canon folder though, it's side by side with Canon
folder. I insert the card, tun on the 10D, still nothing happend.

Click to expand...

Make absolutely sure that the file name is correct:

10DV101.fir

Earlier in one of your messages it was misspelled, or at least the
dot was missing.

Olga

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