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Pretty safe bet that the 7D II will be announced soon. But will it be evolutionary, revolutionary or something else?

Make no mistake -- the 7D is a very good and competent camera. And the firmware upgrade a couple years back breathed new life into the beast.

But -- will its successor be an update or something dramatic? With competitive pressures, I think Canon will find it difficult to raise the price point unless the 7D II is a dramatic, cutting-edge improvement. Looking at my stable of Canon gear, I bought the 7D, 50D, 40D, 30D, 20D, 10D and D60 on the first day with no regrets.

My foray into mirrorless photography (now with Fuji's X-E2 and X-E1) has lessened the need and desire for a new DSLR. Canon has been a bit player in mirrorless cameras, a puzzling move.

I'll probably bite the bullet on the 7D II but when will depend on whether it's a "wow" camera vs. a "that's nice" update. Canon has had a long time to "get it right" and hopefully they will have made the wait worthwhile.

That said, I'm still waiting for the day when Canon decides to get serious about mirrorless.

What do you think? Will the 7D II be a "wow" or a "that's nice" camera?
 
I'm wavering over going mirrorless, I'm waiting for confirmation of 7D II spec. before making a decision.

I've looked at the Panny GH4 but the lack of available glass above 300mm and reservations about tracking autofocus performance puts me off. 4K video suits my needs though and the relatively compact size of the camera is a plus, rumours are the 7D II will lack 4K but I'm probably going to stick with Canon for now.
 
With the amount of hard facts available (I mean hard facts! not drug induced speculation!!), that product is truly Illusory! ;-) - a figment of collective fan boy imagination:-D. One should not waste too much time or energy on the unborn. Then we will have enough time to appreciate what IS being introduced. who knows! This may be Canon's last hurrah
 
**** Ginkowski said:
Pretty safe bet that the 7D II will be announced soon.
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Well, something will be announced. Could be a 7D II, could be something else.
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But will it be evolutionary, revolutionary or something else?
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Based only on the leaked specs, sounds more evolutionary. Hope we'll find out next week so we can move on to complaining about how much better it should have been and for way less money ;-)

Mark
 
It's not speculation....the 7DmkII is coming, its fact!
But the 7DmkII spec's are not.
 
Personally if the 7DII comes in as rumored (20-24mp, 10fps, 5D3-like AF) it will be evolutionary, and I will seriously consider buying it.

For me to consider it revolutionary, it would need a new kind of sensor with quantum leaps in DR, noise, and resolution. Like maybe a Foveon-style sensor but with all the issues fixed. That would be revolutionary, and I will bet a lot of money it's not going to happen.
 
If the CR specs are true and are not hiding the good stuff, it's a bit weak for this many years.

The new AF should be 1 series plus, which is awesome. Everything is whatever, not even 4k video? Apparently the 70D sensor?

Hopefully that post from Japan where some say that Canon has decided that they can get away with not releasing the best bodies or sensors anymore because of their glass and the cost and effort it takes for people to swithc systems is not true.

But maybe CR doesn't have the juicy stuff.
 
Re: 7DII: Evolutionary, revolutionary or ???

I choose "???"

I was at B&H today - no one there has a clue.

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Sam K., NYC
"The fact is that relatively few photographers ever master their medium. Instead they allow the medium to master them and go on an endless squirrel cage chase from new lens ...to new gadget, never staying with one piece of equipment long enough to learn its full capacities, becoming lost in a maze of technical information that is of little or no use since they don't know what to do with it."
--Edward Weston
 
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How can you determine what a camera is that does not even exsist?
 
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A lot of hype and marketing as they always do but don't expectect anything jaw dropping. They should at least drop the AA filter and with that they will say they have a brand new sensor to increase hype and rapture of the images.
 
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Canon has been a bit player in mirrorless cameras, a puzzling move.
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Not puzzling at all. Unit sales of mirrorless simply aren't that great, nobody selling mirrorless is making any money at all on them, and the market is already crowded with models for sale.

Why rush to get on the overloaded, leaking boat? That's about the size of it at this point.
 
Mark B. said:
**** Ginkowski said:
Pretty safe bet that the 7D II will be announced soon.
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Well, something will be announced. Could be a 7D II, could be something else.
Member said:
But will it be evolutionary, revolutionary or something else?
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Based only on the leaked specs, sounds more evolutionary. Hope we'll find out next week so we can move on to complaining about how much better it should have been and for way less money ;-)
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Yes, after months of speculation and blasting Canon for specs nobody knows for sure, and for 'hype' when Canon hasn't said a word about the new camera, we will finally have the new one. All of the camera industry experts here will then jump up and tell Canon why what they did was wrong. Or they will turn up their nose over something stupid - "What? No flip twist LCD? Sorry Canon..."

The people who don't want a DSLR anyhow will sign on to blast it for being a DSLR and describe why they prefer their mirrorless, and why the new Canon doesn't compare...

And the people for whom the new model was intended will gladly get on line to buy one.
 
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Yes, but make sure to include 'I spent ten minutes studying the manual and I know how it's all supposed to work yet even in servo mode it can't focus on a flower...'
 
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A lot of hype and marketing as they always do but don't expectect anything jaw dropping. They should at least drop the AA filter and with that they will say they have a brand new sensor to increase hype and rapture of the images.
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There has been no hype from Canon. They have said nothing about it. Why do they keep getting called for 'hype' when the only such thing is coming from overactive imaginations here?
 
Mark B. said:
**** Ginkowski said:
Pretty safe bet that the 7D II will be announced soon.
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Well, something will be announced. Could be a 7D II, could be something else.
Member said:
But will it be evolutionary, revolutionary or something else?
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Based only on the leaked specs, sounds more evolutionary. Hope we'll find out next week so we can move on to complaining about how much better it should have been and for way less money ;-)

Mark
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I wonder if the complaints will be front focus or back focus? But seriously...would it have to be revolutionary for you to buy one?
 
**** Ginkowski said:
Pretty safe bet that the 7D II will be announced soon. But will it be evolutionary, revolutionary or something else?

Make no mistake -- the 7D is a very good and competent camera. And the firmware upgrade a couple years back breathed new life into the beast.

But -- will its successor be an update or something dramatic? With competitive pressures, I think Canon will find it difficult to raise the price point unless the 7D II is a dramatic, cutting-edge improvement. Looking at my stable of Canon gear, I bought the 7D, 50D, 40D, 30D, 20D, 10D and D60 on the first day with no regrets.
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I think it'll be evolutionary - hard for canon not to make a body that isn't - if not impossible.

it will have more mp's than the 7D, faster fps, a little better featureset, a few wiz bang features that people say they don't want or need, and DxO will give it a low grade because that's what DxO does.

people will say canon is going out of business, that it will never sell, and that x, y or z is better - and it will go on to outsell x, y and z because canon happens to know the market.

when company Y bringing out a good camera is remarkable - canon's legacy is that they have been building and coming out with good cameras for a decade or more.
 
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