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Just brought a new a6000 homw & went out with it and the SE:55210 attached.

Took about 200 pics, and just looking via LED screen on camera it looks like none are in focus, and shots taken at ISO 400 are very noisy.

But then I tried to look at them on my computer downloading via Lightroom, which is what I have on my computer. None were recognized by Lightroom - message that is was not a recognizable format.

Using LR4 - can't use Photoshop because my Mac is more than a few years old, and PS crashed the computer.

I never expected that switching from the NEX6 to the a6000 would cause me the inability to use my LR. Or to see the shots on my computer. AAAARGH!!!!
 
SRQPHOTOS said:
Just brought a new a6000 homw & went out with it and the SE:55210 attached.

Took about 200 pics, and just looking via LED screen on camera it looks like none are in focus, and shots taken at ISO 400 are very noisy.

But then I tried to look at them on my computer downloading via Lightroom, which is what I have on my computer. None were recognized by Lightroom - message that is was not a recognizable format.

Using LR4 - can't use Photoshop because my Mac is more than a few years old, and PS crashed the computer.

I never expected that switching from the NEX6 to the a6000 would cause me the inability to use my LR. Or to see the shots on my computer. AAAARGH!!!!
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You'll need LR 5.4 or higher to have support for A6000 RAW files. JPG files work in any version of LR.

Meanwhile, you can use Sony's IDC to convert from RAW to JPG in the interim.

If none of your pics appear to be in focus, coming from a Nex-6, then check your EXIF - were you out shooting at ISO 400 and low light conditions? I.e. long shutter times (image blur)? Same for noise - ISO 400 may have been to low for the conditions?

Shoot the Nex-6 side by side (if you still have it), so it'll be easier to compare and comment on what you noticed. Generally, the A6000 should equal or better your Nex-6 experience.

Post some of the failed shots for people to comment on?
 
blue_skies said:
SRQPHOTOS said:
Just brought a new a6000 homw & went out with it and the SE:55210 attached.

Took about 200 pics, and just looking via LED screen on camera it looks like none are in focus, and shots taken at ISO 400 are very noisy.

But then I tried to look at them on my computer downloading via Lightroom, which is what I have on my computer. None were recognized by Lightroom - message that is was not a recognizable format.

Using LR4 - can't use Photoshop because my Mac is more than a few years old, and PS crashed the computer.

I never expected that switching from the NEX6 to the a6000 would cause me the inability to use my LR. Or to see the shots on my computer. AAAARGH!!!!
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You'll need LR 5.4 or higher to have support for A6000 RAW files. JPG files work in any version of LR.

Meanwhile, you can use Sony's IDC to convert from RAW to JPG in the interim.

If none of your pics appear to be in focus, coming from a Nex-6, then check your EXIF - were you out shooting at ISO 400 and low light conditions? I.e. long shutter times (image blur)? Same for noise - ISO 400 may have been to low for the conditions?

Shoot the Nex-6 side by side (if you still have it), so it'll be easier to compare and comment on what you noticed. Generally, the A6000 should equal or better your Nex-6 experience.

Post some of the failed shots for people to comment on?

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Cheers,
Henry
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Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, my computer's OS will not support LR5, nor will it support the Adobe DNG converter that handles a6000 files.

If I recall correctly, the NEX6 came with a disk with a converter, as did most of my prior cameras. No such disk this time around. I assume I can find a converter on the SOny site, but that adds another step to my downloading if I shoot RAW. What a pain! I sure did not expect I'd need a new computer to use this camera. :-(

I was shooting at Auto ISO for a while, and those shots were being shot at 2400 ISO most of the time. But I really can't tell for sure how they looked. I later changed to ISO 400, and they are noisy. At 3200 my shutter speed was very fast. Even at 400 it was about 1/200. Hopefully I'll be able to download & se how they Really look.
 
SRQPHOTOS said:
blue_skies said:
SRQPHOTOS said:
Just brought a new a6000 homw & went out with it and the SE:55210 attached.

Took about 200 pics, and just looking via LED screen on camera it looks like none are in focus, and shots taken at ISO 400 are very noisy.

But then I tried to look at them on my computer downloading via Lightroom, which is what I have on my computer. None were recognized by Lightroom - message that is was not a recognizable format.

Using LR4 - can't use Photoshop because my Mac is more than a few years old, and PS crashed the computer.

I never expected that switching from the NEX6 to the a6000 would cause me the inability to use my LR. Or to see the shots on my computer. AAAARGH!!!!
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You'll need LR 5.4 or higher to have support for A6000 RAW files. JPG files work in any version of LR.

Meanwhile, you can use Sony's IDC to convert from RAW to JPG in the interim.

If none of your pics appear to be in focus, coming from a Nex-6, then check your EXIF - were you out shooting at ISO 400 and low light conditions? I.e. long shutter times (image blur)? Same for noise - ISO 400 may have been to low for the conditions?

Shoot the Nex-6 side by side (if you still have it), so it'll be easier to compare and comment on what you noticed. Generally, the A6000 should equal or better your Nex-6 experience.

Post some of the failed shots for people to comment on?
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Yes you can find the RAW converter on the Sony website, I think its called image Data Converter.
 
The converter works fine. What's wrong with it? I forget which forum, but someone did a comparison of the RAW conversion from Sony IDC and Adobe and the Sony result was better.
 
Can't find IDC on the SOmny site. Did find a statement that it comes with the camera. it didn't.
 
SRQPHOTOS said:
blue_skies said:
SRQPHOTOS said:
Just brought a new a6000 homw & went out with it and the SE:55210 attached.

Took about 200 pics, and just looking via LED screen on camera it looks like none are in focus, and shots taken at ISO 400 are very noisy.

But then I tried to look at them on my computer downloading via Lightroom, which is what I have on my computer. None were recognized by Lightroom - message that is was not a recognizable format.

Using LR4 - can't use Photoshop because my Mac is more than a few years old, and PS crashed the computer.

I never expected that switching from the NEX6 to the a6000 would cause me the inability to use my LR. Or to see the shots on my computer. AAAARGH!!!!
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You'll need LR 5.4 or higher to have support for A6000 RAW files. JPG files work in any version of LR.

Meanwhile, you can use Sony's IDC to convert from RAW to JPG in the interim.

If none of your pics appear to be in focus, coming from a Nex-6, then check your EXIF - were you out shooting at ISO 400 and low light conditions? I.e. long shutter times (image blur)? Same for noise - ISO 400 may have been to low for the conditions?

Shoot the Nex-6 side by side (if you still have it), so it'll be easier to compare and comment on what you noticed. Generally, the A6000 should equal or better your Nex-6 experience.

Post some of the failed shots for people to comment on?
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SRQPHOTOS said:
Just brought a new a6000 homw & went out with it and the SE:55210 attached.

Took about 200 pics, and just looking via LED screen on camera it looks like none are in focus, and shots taken at ISO 400 are very noisy.

But then I tried to look at them on my computer downloading via Lightroom, which is what I have on my computer. None were recognized by Lightroom - message that is was not a recognizable format.

Using LR4 - can't use Photoshop because my Mac is more than a few years old, and PS crashed the computer.

I never expected that switching from the NEX6 to the a6000 would cause me the inability to use my LR. Or to see the shots on my computer. AAAARGH!!!!
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Unfortunately, blame that on Adobe, older Adobe Camera Raws don't work with newer cameras. They do that to make you upgrade. I have a bunch of PS elements, because of this.

I don't have a mac, but can you use some RAW converter? Does sony make the PMB for apple?

As far as the out of focus... that is weird, usually it is sharp on the camera screen and out of focus on the computer. Check your focus point and try shooting in Auto mode to see if they are still out of focus.
 
Upgrade your Mac to Mavericks 10.9 it's free.

if your Mac cannot run mavericks then it must be around 8 years old, that is pretty old & you are going to need a more modern machine unfortunately. lR5 requires Lion 10.7 put that's a paid upgrade, your computer should be fine with that. You had better consider getting some extra ram if you have less than 4GB

my iMac is almost 5 years old but runs fast with mavericks due to a cheap ram upgrade. I fully expect though that I will need a new computer in the next few years as tech moves on.
 
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Did you verify that OSS is turned on? That is what Sony calls lens stabilization. Did you also verify that focus was set to AF and not MF? The a6000 and SEL55-210mm is a very good combination, but you need to know how to set up your a6000 with any lens combo. I'm thinking this is user error due to not fully understanding the camera set up. The menu system is huge and sometimes confusing, but once mastered you shouldn't have focus issues.

If you want to do decent post processing, you will need a newer computer. I use a Mac Mini running Mac OS X Mavericks, and it works very well with any apps I run. Adobe sells updates to Lightroom by making us update to cover newer cameras. I had to update from LR 4.x to 5.x to get a6000 RAW support. It sucks, but that is Adobe's way of getting more of our money. I wouldn't waste time with Sony's IDC app. If LR doesn't work on your computer, IDC won't either as it is slower than molasses and basically worthless on Mac and PCs.

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An astrophotography hobbyist and amateur radio instructor and examiner. Sony a7, Sony a6000, and Canon Powershot G1 X. https://www.flickr.com/photos/jackswinden/
 
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If you want, you can use Raw Therapee. It has a mac version, is free, and supports the A6000.
 
Found IDC & downloaded. It's really frustrating as it seems to only be able to convert ONE image at a time. I can see all the images but there is no way to SELECT ALL, or even multiple images to perform the conversion on. That's going to take forever!

I have 2 Mac computers, but both run 10.6.8. One is from 2007, an iMac. THe other is a laptop from around 2010 - I'll be trying to upgrade to MAverick - crossing my fingers.
 
W5JCK said:
Did you verify that OSS is turned on? That is what Sony calls lens stabilization. Did you also verify that focus was set to AF and not MF? The a6000 and SEL55-210mm is a very good combination, but you need to know how to set up your a6000 with any lens combo. I'm thinking this is user error due to not fully understanding the camera set up. The menu system is huge and sometimes confusing, but once mastered you shouldn't have focus issues.

If you want to do decent post processing, you will need a newer computer. I use a Mac Mini running Mac OS X Mavericks, and it works very well with any apps I run. Adobe sells updates to Lightroom by making us update to cover newer cameras. I had to update from LR 4.x to 5.x to get a6000 RAW support. It sucks, but that is Adobe's way of getting more of our money. I wouldn't waste time with Sony's IDC app. If LR doesn't work on your computer, IDC won't either as it is slower than molasses and basically worthless on Mac and PCs.

--
An astrophotography hobbyist and amateur radio instructor and examiner. Sony a7, Sony a6000, and Canon Powershot G1 X. https://www.flickr.com/photos/jackswinden/
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Been using the 55210 on the NEX-6, so pretty familiar with the menus. I certainly was using Auto Focus, not manual. Did change the type of autofocus & focal points as part of my testing of the camera, but most definitely at all times on Auto, and OSS ON.

I wish Adobe & Apple would learn to get along!
 
SRQPHOTOS said:
I have 2 Mac computers, but both run 10.6.8. One is from 2007, an iMac. THe other is a laptop from around 2010 - I'll be trying to upgrade to MAverick - crossing my fingers.
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I have an original MacPro from 2006 and it can be upgraded to 10.7 and that will run LR5 but that is the limit the OS can be upgraded unless you want to hack the computer. If you are running 10.6.8 I bet you can upgrade to Lion but you have to pay for that one. It is not free like Mavericks is but it will run on my original MacPro! It will run CS6 too which will open a6000 files too. It can be expensive living on the bleeding edge when it comes to upgrading cameras and computers and I don't see anyone adopting DNG as the cameras native format so this will continue for sometime.

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SRQPHOTOS said:
Found IDC & downloaded. It's really frustrating as it seems to only be able to convert ONE image at a time. I can see all the images but there is no way to SELECT ALL, or even multiple images to perform the conversion on. That's going to take forever!

I have 2 Mac computers, but both run 10.6.8. One is from 2007, an iMac. THe other is a laptop from around 2010 - I'll be trying to upgrade to MAverick - crossing my fingers.
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A machine from 2007 probably couldn't process 24MP files in LR at any sort of reasonable speed anyway, so I don't think you're losing much except frustration. Modern cameras are essentially a computer that captures images, and if you want to do any kind of editing, a camera is just a part of an imaging system. If one part of the system is brand new and the other parts are old (and 7 years old is ancient for a computer) you're going to have a bad time.
 
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, my computer's OS will not support LR5, nor will it support the Adobe DNG converter that handles a6000 files.

If I recall correctly, the NEX6 came with a disk with a converter, as did most of my prior cameras. No such disk this time around. I assume I can find a converter on the SOny site, but that adds another step to my downloading if I shoot RAW. What a pain! I sure did not expect I'd need a new computer to use this camera. :-(

I was shooting at Auto ISO for a while, and those shots were being shot at 2400 ISO most of the time. But I really can't tell for sure how they looked. I later changed to ISO 400, and they are noisy. At 3200 my shutter speed was very fast. Even at 400 it was about 1/200. Hopefully I'll be able to download & se how they Really look.

How old is your Mac? I have a 3 1/5 year old MBP. you may need to upgrade your operating system if the age of your Mac will allow it
 
santiclaws said:
SRQPHOTOS said:
Found IDC & downloaded. It's really frustrating as it seems to only be able to convert ONE image at a time. I can see all the images but there is no way to SELECT ALL, or even multiple images to perform the conversion on. That's going to take forever!

I have 2 Mac computers, but both run 10.6.8. One is from 2007, an iMac. THe other is a laptop from around 2010 - I'll be trying to upgrade to MAverick - crossing my fingers.
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A machine from 2007 probably couldn't process 24MP files in LR at any sort of reasonable speed anyway, so I don't think you're losing much except frustration. Modern cameras are essentially a computer that captures images, and if you want to do any kind of editing, a camera is just a part of an imaging system. If one part of the system is brand new and the other parts are old (and 7 years old is ancient for a computer) you're going to have a bad time.
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I beg to differ, I run Lightroom on a computer I built in 2007 and it works fine
 
mgillespie said:
mgillespie said:
blue_skies said:
SRQPHOTOS said:
Just brought a new a6000 homw & went out with it and the SE:55210 attached.

Took about 200 pics, and just looking via LED screen on camera it looks like none are in focus, and shots taken at ISO 400 are very noisy.

But then I tried to look at them on my computer downloading via Lightroom, which is what I have on my computer. None were recognized by Lightroom - message that is was not a recognizable format.

Using LR4 - can't use Photoshop because my Mac is more than a few years old, and PS crashed the computer.

I never expected that switching from the NEX6 to the a6000 would cause me the inability to use my LR. Or to see the shots on my computer. AAAARGH!!!!
Click to expand...
You'll need LR 5.4 or higher to have support for A6000 RAW files. JPG files work in any version of LR.

Meanwhile, you can use Sony's IDC to convert from RAW to JPG in the interim.

If none of your pics appear to be in focus, coming from a Nex-6, then check your EXIF - were you out shooting at ISO 400 and low light conditions? I.e. long shutter times (image blur)? Same for noise - ISO 400 may have been to low for the conditions?

Shoot the Nex-6 side by side (if you still have it), so it'll be easier to compare and comment on what you noticed. Generally, the A6000 should equal or better your Nex-6 experience.

Post some of the failed shots for people to comment on?

--
Cheers,
Henry
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Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, my computer's OS will not support LR5, nor will it support the Adobe DNG converter that handles a6000 files.

If I recall correctly, the NEX6 came with a disk with a converter, as did most of my prior cameras. No such disk this time around. I assume I can find a converter on the SOny site, but that adds another step to my downloading if I shoot RAW. What a pain! I sure did not expect I'd need a new computer to use this camera. :-(

I was shooting at Auto ISO for a while, and those shots were being shot at 2400 ISO most of the time. But I really can't tell for sure how they looked. I later changed to ISO 400, and they are noisy. At 3200 my shutter speed was very fast. Even at 400 it was about 1/200. Hopefully I'll be able to download & se how they Really look.
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You bought an Apple computer, what did you expect?
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My Apple computer from 2009 has no problem converting a6000 or a7 RAW files to DNG using an old version of LR. However, your Windows-nerd response from 1997 still seems relevant to you. So sad...

To the OP, the Adobe converter will require another step, but you can quickly convert RAW files using LR4.

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