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A little M43 game. Post a photo that would have been impossible with another camera system.

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joeletx said:
Is this for softening the flash harshness by pointing and/or bouncing the light to nowhere?
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Study the light on his face. Not to nowhere - there is most likely a white wall not too far off camera that he's aimed the flash at. So the light is now more diffuse (i.e. coming from a large surface than a small tube point). Almost any modern camera with TTL flash metering will handle this just fine. Heck even a lot of old thyristor auto-flashes are OK with it.
 
Use the Oly 4:3 fisheye on your M4:3 system and it works very well and is an excellent lens...you won't have any problems other than having to buy and adaptor for it, and used 4:3 stuff is going for peanuts nowadays.
 
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Is this for softening the flash harshness by pointing and/or bouncing the light to nowhere?
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Study the light on his face. Not to nowhere - there is most likely a white wall not too far off camera that he's aimed the flash at. So the light is now more diffuse (i.e. coming from a large surface than a small tube point). Almost any modern camera with TTL flash metering will handle this just fine. Heck even a lot of old thyristor auto-flashes are OK with it.
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Dr_Jon said:
That's the trouble guessing when you have a pop at someone... like MF+BIF you can get a higher percentage of misses ;-)
I shot non-AF lenses for a long time, I used to have Canon FD kit for many years (strictly I still do). Used to get driven nuts trying to photograph Kingfishers... they're my nemesis.
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I would average out pretty well with the folks I shoot with using FF. Steve with a 1Dx and 500 F/4 misses a fair bit and so does Chris with a 5D MKIII and 400 F/2.8. The 1Dx seems to lock faster and on target, the 7D and 5D MKIII, not as much. But you pay for it as well. On a Kingfisher coming into a perch, guess what they switch off as well after seeing what I do. The reason is simple, even PDAF cannot keep up at close range on a flying KF at 12 meters flying in. Iv'e seen it.

Here's Chris with his 5D MKIII using a wide angle on a perch pre focused ....



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and my result with a crop from that shot



NEX-7 of course, but I already know that m4/3 can take the same shots with the same lenses.
NEX-7 of course, but I already know that m4/3 can take the same shots with the same lenses.

Chris nailed it BTW with a really unique view. At the end of the day the question is, can m4/3 use long tele lenses to get the same shots, yes it can and it can also do what Chris was doing. That's the short answer. Can you do it with native lenses on m4/3, no doubt about it, yes you can as long as you can get close enough.

Its all about technique with MF, if you don't want to learn it, then that's fine, but never make assumptions because there is always someone out there.

All the best.

Danny.



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Birds, macro, motor sports.... http://www.birdsinaction.com
Just Kingfisher ..... http://www.flickr.com/photos/96361462@N06/
 
Invisible EPL5 with USB release cable. Lens: 15mm F8 BLC

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Alex





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No offense but a diagonal Fisheye is no use to me at all. That's 15mm-ish on FF and I need 12 mm at most. The Canon one is also crazy sharp and great when the Sun is in or close to the frame. (I really didn't want to spend the money, but eventually cracked and am glad I did, it's a staggering bit of kit.)
 
BTW this is worth a read too...

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Which basically says m43 uses a lot more glass in front of its sensors than Canon does, so adapted lenses lose a chunk of sharpness. It's an interesting point.
 
Kevdog said:
I don't have one uploaded yet, but at the Circus they were not allowing DSLRs in. But they didn't mind my EPL5 + Pany 12-35 HD lens. The low light and quick movement meant that normal P&S's would not get the shot, so a mirrorless with a fast lens that just sneaks in under the DSLR rules was needed. (Or one of the large sensor compact P&S cameras). So basically a limited set of cameras! :D
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I agree. Getting my EM-5 in with the Oly 25 mounted has been pretty easy. I just put the lenses in a pocket or the bottom of my wife's purse!
 
nzmacro said:
GeorgianBay1939 said:
A complementary question would be:

Has anybody else done stuff with another camera system that would have been impossible for any reason with a MFT camera system? Please illustrate with images.

That would bring out some good challenges for newbie shooters with MFT gear (like me) who populate this forum!

(And it would be a nice change from the opinions expressed about format comparisons.)

Tom
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Looking at all my shots, there is not one image that couldn't be taken with m4/3. This seems to go both ways IMO.

All the best and a good point ;-)

Danny.
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That's a very beautiful image. More art than photo. As to your question, coming from Canon stabilized lenses, IBIS is nice but not better.
 
DonSC said:
That's a very beautiful image. More art than photo. As to your question, coming from Canon stabilized lenses, IBIS is nice but not better.
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Well, Canon claims that its IS system corrects only pitch and yaw. Olympus IBIS corrects those plus roll plus lateral, plus vertical motion. And if does it on every lens.

The IS system on many Canon lenses absolutely stinks, simply because IT IS NOT THERE.
 
A professional tennis match from 300mm lens on M43 could be the one, I didn't take one, but I guess that would be one of the few occasions that other system can't match (maybe except Nikon 1).

300mm lens on DSLR would be considered "professional" and not allowed to be taken there, while the "superzoom" compacts may struggle with the actions.
 
DonSC said:
That's a very beautiful image. More art than photo. As to your question, coming from Canon stabilized lenses, IBIS is nice but not better.
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Thanks.

I think you will find ( correct me if I am wrong) if you look at the ( serious and not forum chatter) reviews of the EM5 EM1 and other cameras with IBIS that this system was/is a big step forward in stabilization compared to the Nikon Canon in lens systems.

But I think these systems also depend on our camera holding skills to get the most or more than the most out of them.
 
zcello said:
A professional tennis match from 300mm lens on M43 could be the one, I didn't take one, but I guess that would be one of the few occasions that other system can't match (maybe except Nikon 1).

300mm lens on DSLR would be considered "professional" and not allowed to be taken there, while the "superzoom" compacts may struggle with the actions.
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M43 as a "stealth" camera was one of the attributes I had in mind when I started this post. I have got away with taking pictures with my EM5 or GX1 where I am sure I would have been stopped with my D300. For example here where photography was banned, but nobody took any notice of my “toy camera” http://nigelvoak.blogspot.it/2014/04/palazzo-ducale-di-sassuolo.html

The Nikon 1 is also an interesting camera that I believe has certain attributes that lets you take unique pictures. I am tempted to find a second hand one to see what I can do with it.
 
I know... it wasn't a serious comment... :-)
 
Simple: I have a bold spot, and if the flash bounces from the low ceiling, my bold spot shines brighter than a full moon ;-)

Note a wide red rubber band on the flash. i can fold a standard piece of paper and attach it to the flash with this rubber band, and it makes a perfect reflector for portraits and macros (tilted forward).
 
NCV said:
zcello said:
A professional tennis match from 300mm lens on M43 could be the one, I didn't take one, but I guess that would be one of the few occasions that other system can't match (maybe except Nikon 1).

300mm lens on DSLR would be considered "professional" and not allowed to be taken there, while the "superzoom" compacts may struggle with the actions.
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M43 as a "stealth" camera was one of the attributes I had in mind when I started this post. I have got away with taking pictures with my EM5 or GX1 where I am sure I would have been stopped with my D300. For example here where photography was banned, but nobody took any notice of my “toy camera” http://nigelvoak.blogspot.it/2014/04/palazzo-ducale-di-sassuolo.html

The Nikon 1 is also an interesting camera that I believe has certain attributes that lets you take unique pictures. I am tempted to find a second hand one to see what I can do with it.
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I have several camera systems and one of my favorite cameras is a red Nikon J1 (the original.) It will AFC at 15 fps and has great tracking for pets, kids & sports. My favorite lens is the 30-110 which is 35mm equivalent of 300mm...same as an Olympus 40-150 at the long end. Camera + this lens fits in a large coat pocket. I saw red J1's with kit lens last week clearing out for $129.

My nomination for your contest...a tiny E-PM1 or GM1 with the O. Bodycap lens being thrown 150 yards by a star baseball pitcher...nothing is smaller/lighter so it will throw the farthest. Any one got a pic. of that?
 
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