Sony Where are the Sharp Telelphoto Lenses for Sony A7!!!!

*amn sony..i cant compete against Canon and Nikons 70-200mm 2.8 with this crappy

55-210mm,,and i cant shoot fast moving subject with some manual focus legacy lense.

Hurry uuuuuuuuuuuup and bring out a telephoto lens...and, "NO" I dont want to use the LA-EA Adaptor....they render blurry soft images,, unless im using a F1.4!...urggh.

LOL ... Welcome to Silly Old Sony world

ImagesInstyle said:

*amn sony..i cant compete against Canon and Nikons 70-200mm 2.8 with this crappy

55-210mm,,and i cant shoot fast moving subject with some manual focus legacy lense.

Hurry uuuuuuuuuuuup and bring out a telephoto lens...and, "NO" I dont want to use the LA-EA Adaptor....they render blurry soft images,, unless im using a F1.4!...urggh.

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If you want fast and sharp, and 2.8, LAEA4 is your friend.
If you want sharp and (can't speak for speed), FE70-200 is your option

So why wouldn't you buy the FE 70-200mm f/4? And if that doesn't cut it, what are you shooting with this specific camera for?

Eric

Unless you want to spend a good deal money, deal with a much larger/heavier lens, what's wrong with the FE 70-200? It's the equal or better than the F4.0 Canikon versions.


Best of all, it's available -now-. Sony may never release a 70-200 F2.8 in FE mount.

"NO" I dont want to use the LA-EA Adaptor....they render blurry soft images..."






Minolta 300mm






Minolta 100mm






Tokina AT-X 300



I guess they could be sharper.

D Williams said:

"NO" I dont want to use the LA-EA Adaptor....they render blurry soft images..."


Minolta 300mm


Minolta 100mm


Tokina AT-X 300

I guess they could be sharper.

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There you go again, showing images. Rants like his are designed for a fact-free world.

That is why Sony, even with a potentially great body of the A7 or A7R has not gotten me to give up my Canon system or Fuji X system. Just so much more native lens selection for those platforms. Sony is an electronics company. Digital bodies can an will be something the understand. For lenses they should just throw more money at Zeiss to help them get a better collection of lenses sooner.

Sony put your ego in the corner and admit your at the point where you need Zeiss more than they need you I think. They can still support Canon, Nikon, and Fuji but with each of them they really do have to compete against the internal teams at those companies.

Or with the new strength of Sigma maybe you should acquire their team or fork out some cash for them to develop for your platform.

IMO lenses make the platform. Bodies and sensors are a must but one you have a good one then you can only leverage that into a system if you have great glass.

Steve W said:

That is why Sony, even with a potentially great body of the A7 or A7R has not gotten me to give up my Canon system or Fuji X system. Just so much more native lens selection for those platforms. Sony is an electronics company. Digital bodies can an will be something the understand. For lenses they should just throw more money at Zeiss to help them get a better collection of lenses sooner.

Sony put your ego in the corner and admit your at the point where you need Zeiss more than they need you I think. They can still support Canon, Nikon, and Fuji but with each of them they really do have to compete against the internal teams at those companies.

Or with the new strength of Sigma maybe you should acquire their team or fork out some cash for them to develop for your platform.

IMO lenses make the platform. Bodies and sensors are a must but one you have a good one then you can only leverage that into a system if you have great glass.

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Nikon makes microscopes and is the world's 2nd largest manufacturer of lithography systems used in semiconductor production. Canon makes printers, copiers and scanners. They both are every bit the diversified electronics conglomerate as Sony. They just aren't as big.

The FE mount is new. Did you really expect a dozen or so lenses being available at launch? The FE cameras have been available what, six months now? I think Sony is doing a decent job in meeting demand, and have supplied an ambitious road map for future releases.

Ego has nothing to do with it. It's part marketing, and mostly just plain logistics.

Steve W said:

That is why Sony, even with a potentially great body of the A7 or A7R has not gotten me to give up my Canon system or Fuji X system. Just so much more native lens selection for those platforms. Sony is an electronics company. Digital bodies can an will be something the understand. For lenses they should just throw more money at Zeiss to help them get a better collection of lenses sooner.

Sony put your ego in the corner and admit your at the point where you need Zeiss more than they need you I think. They can still support Canon, Nikon, and Fuji but with each of them they really do have to compete against the internal teams at those companies.

Or with the new strength of Sigma maybe you should acquire their team or fork out some cash for them to develop for your platform.

IMO lenses make the platform. Bodies and sensors are a must but one you have a good one then you can only leverage that into a system if you have great glass.

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Sony have more lenses from the get-go than Fuji did, it took them nearly two years to have the FE range range had at launch. This is just typical internet gospel....

Another 5 lenses and this system (for a mirrorless) is more or less complete, they have 5 lenses coming out this calendar year. Claims from these internet 'experts' are nonsense.

A wide and a mid-tele prime, two zooms (ultra wide and wide ranging) and a macro will complete the set, within just 1 year of launch. No mirrorless system has ever come close to that level of delivery.

If you want a good telephoto, buy the damn 70-200mm... But you wont, you are nothing more than a troll.

Steve W said:

That is why Sony, even with a potentially great body of the A7 or A7R has not gotten me to give up my Canon system or Fuji X system. Just so much more native lens selection for those platforms. Sony is an electronics company. Digital bodies can an will be something the understand. For lenses they should just throw more money at Zeiss to help them get a better collection of lenses sooner.

Sony put your ego in the corner and admit your at the point where you need Zeiss more than they need you I think. They can still support Canon, Nikon, and Fuji but with each of them they really do have to compete against the internal teams at those companies.

Or with the new strength of Sigma maybe you should acquire their team or fork out some cash for them to develop for your platform.

IMO lenses make the platform. Bodies and sensors are a must but one you have a good one then you can only leverage that into a system if you have great glass.

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Personally I'm quite satisfied with being able to use 16-35,24-70,80=200,70-300 and 70-400 and that's just in some of the zooms. And then there are all of the primes.

What exactly are you so desperately missing?

Sometimes I think this like criticizing Nikon for not updating their entire range of AF and AF-D lenses to AY-S in 6 months.

Dandrewk said:

Unless you want to spend a good deal money, deal with a much larger/heavier lens, what's wrong with the FE 70-200? It's the equal or better than the F4.0 Canikon versions.

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You realize Canon 70-200 f/4 L IS is a 5-star lens? Has it been compared to FE 70-200/4 by anybody yet? Just wondering.

Dandrewk said:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3660283

Best of all, it's available -now-. Sony may never release a 70-200 F2.8 in FE mount.

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Petroglyph said:

Dandrewk said:

Unless you want to spend a good deal money, deal with a much larger/heavier lens, what's wrong with the FE 70-200? It's the equal or better than the F4.0 Canikon versions.

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You realize Canon 70-200 f/4 L IS is a 5-star lens? Has it been compared to FE 70-200/4 by anybody yet? Just wondering.

Petroglyph said:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3660283

Best of all, it's available -now-. Sony may never release a 70-200 F2.8 in FE mount.

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Here ya go:


Note - the Sony is the sharpest of the bunch and has the lowest CA. It' is hurt by vignetting, but that's less of an issue with a good lens profile in post processing. My own tests shows marked corner softness at 200mm with the lens wide open, but not terrible. That all goes away with one or two stops.

I don't disagree with some of the feedback. The first set of lenses is nice although I wish they had done one wide angle instead of two mid range zooms. Also I know it's been less than a year but you can't use that excuse in a competive market. Every company that decides to develop a new mount/sensor combo that requires new glass has to live with the reality that they have entered a new market with established competitors and new adopters can't swap out working systems until the new system offer the needed glass. if you want to go a different path and us the E mount for FullFrame be prepared to cover the minimum space as quickly as you can or be very forthcoming on your roadmap to convince your users there is a real future if they can wait for it. I've had my A7r for 3 months now and if Metabone's had not enable the use of my wide Canon/Zeiss glass I would have used it a lot less. Also the $500 + spent on the adapter and l-bracket support for it would have been better spent on native glass if it had been available.

Don't get me wrong I really like the camera. Now if the can just get a wide angle and a portrait prime. Want the short telephoto in the range of 90-135 that could be smaller and lighter than the 70-200 zoom. Just like the 100/2 or 135/2 available for othe FF system.

It needs to be dirt cheap too, and F/1, and tiny. Right?

Hard to imagine any other reasons you'd deliberately leave out the fact that they already did just that with the 70-200, as you no doubt well know if you read this forum.

Steve W said:

I don't disagree with some of the feedback. The first set of lenses is nice although I wish they had done one wide angle instead of two mid range zooms. Also I know it's been less than a year but you can't use that excuse in a competive market. Every company that decides to develop a new mount/sensor combo that requires new glass has to live with the reality that they have entered a new market with established competitors and new adopters can't swap out working systems until the new system offer the needed glass. if you want to go a different path and us the E mount for FullFrame be prepared to cover the minimum space as quickly as you can or be very forthcoming on your roadmap to convince your users there is a real future if they can wait for it. I've had my A7r for 3 months now and if Metabone's had not enable the use of my wide Canon/Zeiss glass I would have used it a lot less. Also the $500 + spent on the adapter and l-bracket support for it would have been better spent on native glass if it had been available.

Don't get me wrong I really like the camera. Now if the can just get a wide angle and a portrait prime. Want the short telephoto in the range of 90-135 that could be smaller and lighter than the 70-200 zoom. Just like the 100/2 or 135/2 available for othe FF system.

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There are "established competitors? With full frame, mirrorless, EVF in a much smaller camera body? Huh, did not know that.

Having a dozen or so lenses AND a road map that has (thus far) been spot on within the first year of release seems pretty good to me.

Folks here expect way, WAY too much, way too soon.

And it's not like Sony lied to anyone. If you were a DSLR buyer who required a large selection of lenses, I doubt you would seriously consider an FE camera for at least two more years.

Whatever the case may be, everyone knew the story going in, and -nothing has changed-.

Steve W said:

I don't disagree with some of the feedback. The first set of lenses is nice although I wish they had done one wide angle instead of two mid range zooms. Also I know it's been less than a year but you can't use that excuse in a competive market. Every company that decides to develop a new mount/sensor combo that requires new glass has to live with the reality that they have entered a new market with established competitors and new adopters can't swap out working systems until the new system offer the needed glass. if you want to go a different path and us the E mount for FullFrame be prepared to cover the minimum space as quickly as you can or be very forthcoming on your roadmap to convince your users there is a real future if they can wait for it. I've had my A7r for 3 months now and if Metabone's had not enable the use of my wide Canon/Zeiss glass I would have used it a lot less. Also the $500 + spent on the adapter and l-bracket support for it would have been better spent on native glass if it had been available.

Don't get me wrong I really like the camera. Now if the can just get a wide angle and a portrait prime. Want the short telephoto in the range of 90-135 that could be smaller and lighter than the 70-200 zoom. Just like the 100/2 or 135/2 available for othe FF system.

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And fair enough, but Sony have produced a roadmap, they have produced 4 of the most desirable FL lenses right off the bat (plus a kit lens). I'm just a bit over all the complaints about they system not having lenses and supposedly 'not likely' to produce the right lenses either. Sony have shown a staggering level of commitment to this new system and it constantly gets poo-poo'd by pundits.

Yes a wide angle will be nice, but again no system, not one in recent history had an UWA of any kind at launch. None of them had high quality zooms at launch, not one. Many didn't have telephotos at launch. None of them even had a 24mm equiv at launch and most took a bloody long time to get there if at all.

Sony came out with 4 of the key lenses for a proper system right from the start and are commiting to at least another 5 within the first year, all of which are key lenses for a decent system. This is not the doldrums of kit lens after kit lens and super zoom that many systems have seen in their first few years.

After 1 year I expect we will have the following:

Three high quality zooms, the 'trinty' set that most users use (16-35, 24-70, 70-200)
Four primes (35, 55, 85, 21)
Macro
Kit zoom
Walk around zoom (this may or may not be the giant ENG oriented 28-135mm, I suspect they will be different lenses personally)

Year 2 will likely see:

Long tele (with 300-400 reach at the long end)

Then what? They have another 4 spots to fill, this might be more primes (135 and 14)? faster versions of the zooms? Faster primes in existing FL's (35 and 85)? Best guess is a bit of everything.

Dandrewk said:

Unless you want to spend a good deal money, deal with a much larger/heavier lens, what's wrong with the FE 70-200? It's the equal or better than the F4.0 Canikon versions.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3660283

Best of all, it's available -now-. Sony may never release a 70-200 F2.8 in FE mount.

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Available where?? I checked BHPhoto..says Pre Order!

D Williams said:

"NO" I dont want to use the LA-EA Adaptor....they render blurry soft images..."

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I said the LA EA4 is no good for "Moving Objects"..never said stationary.

its obvious, you shot these birds holding there breath, while you had the camera, adaptor, and lens on a "Tripod"..

D Williams said:

Minolta 300mm


Minolta 100mm


Tokina AT-X 300

I guess they could be sharper.

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