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Besides the 100 2.8macro, 50 f1.4/1.8, which other primes (less then 200mm) are must have primes to use with the 10D for optical quality, etc.
 
28mm 2.8 is a nice one to have. i find it very useful considering 10D 1.6X crop factor makes it a 45mm lens.

it's sharp and light too, though not very usable when wide open. :P
AYCL said:
Besides the 100 2.8macro, 50 f1.4/1.8, which other primes (less
then 200mm) are must have primes to use with the 10D for optical
quality, etc.
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10D, 7E, Canon 28mm 2.8, 50mm 1.4
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Harris Chan said:
28mm 2.8 is a nice one to have. i find it very useful considering
10D 1.6X crop factor makes it a 45mm lens.

it's sharp and light too, though not very usable when wide open. :P
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I found my EF 28 f2.8 surprisingly sharp at full aperture when tested a week ago.

On my 10D, I'm finding that I'm using lenses such as my EF 35 f2 much more than I did on film (EOS3) where I never noticed much difference between its images and those from zooms. On the 10D there's no contest, good primes win out easily (and sharp A3 prints are beginning to clutter my lounge ) - but I don't have any L zooms to compare against.

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A must have is the 2/135L and 2/35.
Harris Chan said:
it's sharp and light too, though not very usable when wide open. :P
AYCL said:
Besides the 100 2.8macro, 50 f1.4/1.8, which other primes (less
then 200mm) are must have primes to use with the 10D for optical
quality, etc.
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  • Harris
10D, 7E, Canon 28mm 2.8, 50mm 1.4
Contax 139Q, Zeiss Planar T* 50mm 1.4
Rollei AFM35, Manfrotto Junior Tripod
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20mm F2.8 (or Sigma 1.8) 35-F2

and if you have the cash the 135L F2 , it's a superb lens .

I really like the 300F4 non-IS too

I don't have any of these, just the 50mm F1.8 Mk1 and the 100USM Macro but I WILL be getting a 35mm F2 when I see one cheap enough used

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AYCL said:
Besides the 100 2.8macro, 50 f1.4/1.8, which other primes (less
then 200mm) are must have primes to use with the 10D for optical
quality, etc.
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I already have the range up to 200mm covered with two zooms, 50 1.4 and 100 macro but I have done much research and test shooting in a pro shop with the 135 L and it is SUPERB!!

I WILL get it once I have "disappeared" enough money :-)

....or if that is not possible, I will consider letting go of my 70-200IS because 135 + 1.4TC = 200 2.8 (but without the lovely IS).

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My 80-200L matches or beats all non-L primes within it's focal length but then that probably IS the sharpest Canon Zoom ever.. I compared it to the wonderful 135L F2 as well and couldn't see a difference both at F2.8 but then both are beyond the 10D's resolving power, A 1DS ought to do the trick where I guess that the Prime would pull ahead nicely..

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no way your 80 -200 beat a 135??? Proof??

I think with two bodies it makes sense to go into a theater with 85 f1.8, 135 f2 and a 1.4 extender....I'd like to be in the same venue with you and see how each of us does.

:-))

MAC
Adam-T said:
My 80-200L matches or beats all non-L primes within it's focal
length but then that probably IS the sharpest Canon Zoom ever.. I
compared it to the wonderful 135L F2 as well and couldn't see a
difference both at F2.8 but then both are beyond the 10D's
resolving power, A 1DS ought to do the trick where I guess that the
Prime would pull ahead nicely..

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MAC said:
no way your 80 -200 beat a 135??? Proof??
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Stuff your need for proof. If you want proof that he's wrong, go out and buy a copy and make your own tests. Other then that, accept the fact that you don't want to buy the lens for what ever reason and move on. If he says in his experience it's sharper, then it's sharper and until you provide the proof that he's wrong, then his comments stand.

You folks are too quick and harsh in your condemnations.

Let's see your proof that he's wrong to back up your assersions.

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AYCL said:
Besides the 100 2.8macro, 50 f1.4/1.8, which other primes (less
then 200mm) are must have primes to use with the 10D for optical
quality, etc.
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There's a whole list of primes to choose from. How much do you have to spend and what do you want the lens for?

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The 135/2, 85/1.2, and 35/1.4 are outstanding lenses.
AYCL said:
Besides the 100 2.8macro, 50 f1.4/1.8, which other primes (less
then 200mm) are must have primes to use with the 10D for optical
quality, etc.
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MAC said:
no way your 80 -200 beat a 135??? Proof??
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Where did I say that ?

I said
MAC said:
Compared it to the wonderful 135L F2 as well and couldn't see a
difference both at F2.8
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that I couldn't see a difference AND
MAC said:
but then both are beyond the 10D's
resolving power, A 1DS ought to do the trick where I guess that the
Prime would pull ahead nicely..
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Please read before misquoting me ..

Someone did a test not so long ago here with 100% crops between a 70-200L IS and a 135 and there was VERY little difference in sharpness increase and the 80-200 is also sharper than the 70-200L IS even on a 10D as is the 70-200L NON IS ..

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I haven't compared the 80-200.

But I have compared the 70-200/2.8 against the 135/2

On a 1D, at close-range, on a subject with clearly defined black lines (think ruler or test target), the 135/2 was noticeably sharper when viewed at 100% in Photoshop.

I suspect that using a CMOS-based camera, or shooting a "real world" subject without distinct lines, or shooting at a longer distance could've made them indistinguisable from each other.

Were you comparing wide-open, or both at f/2.8? I think the 135/2 was actually sharper even when wide-open.

At any rate, when I get results that seem "incosistent with commonly held beliefs", I will typically reshoot a few times, to see if that changes my perception. I my zoom had been sharper, I would've retested several times, just to be sure I didn't have very slight mis-focusing problems.

Given that the prime beat my zoom, I didn't bother to re-test. So it's always possible that my zoom is as good (or better) and it was just a slight focusing issue.

I'm beginning to think that GregL's approach is probably best for comparisons. Shoot a res chart, but shoot it 5 times with AF, 5 times with MF, and then select the best image for comparison.

That's a lot of work, though.

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DavidP said:
"My 80-200L matches or beats all non-L primes within it's focal
length"

I think he was referring to that statement. I think he missed
the non-L part.

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There's no way I'm gonna read slowly enough (and type slowly enough) to avoid misunderstandings.

You guys must really think I am super-human if you expect me to do THAT. LOL.

But, I can type 100 wpm. At least when my #$ @#$ wireless keyboard isn't acting nuts. I think it may be time to replace it.
Thomas Gardner said:
You know that reading comprehension is not a requirement for
joining the forum:-)
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