This is why I like Sony design more rather than Fuji fake "old" design. Fuji functionallity suffers.

If it's a toss-up between being able to take pictures of anything, anywhere, anytime and enjoying the experience of taking somethings, somewhere, sometime I'd take the latter every time.

Who gives a flying duck whether I miss an odd shot every now and then because I don't have a preset for shooting "flying-geese-against-the-sun-moving-south" mode. It probably will look like ship anyway.

btw Fuji X-T1 vs. Sony A7R? Fuji wins.
 
That Sony, widely praised for having lots of external control on things from the A700 down, which bought Minolta, widely praised for the same on the 7D, has so many users who want to criticize other camera makers for having lots of external controls.

If the XT1 doesn't suit you, don't buy it. If the controls do suit you, buy it. That is all Reichmann argued, and IMHO how the user interacts with those ergonomics is the only truly important decision for buying a camera today (which Reichmann also says). Some people want old school external controls, some people want customizability. It is a good thing that the market has offerings for both.

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Limitations of manual controls (on X-T1 example).

"But, as the saying goes, be careful what you wish for. It wasn't long after the first blush of passion had passed that I realized that this oh-so-desirable design had a dark side. The camera has no customization settings for shooting modes. This means that when you want to quickly change from one type of shooting to another, every applicable control has to be individually altered. Let me explain.

You are standing out in the field in the late afternoon light taking a shot of your girlfriend posing demurely by a fence. You've set the camera to either manual focus, or maybe single button AF. The shutter speed is moderate, because you're hand holding, the ISO is low for optimum quality, and you have set the aperture fairly wide for shallow depth of field. You're using average zone metering because she is side lit. Drive mode is set to single frame, and metering for matrix.

All of a sudden, an amazing flock of Canada Geese appears behind her. Their wings are illuminated by the low sun, but they're flying fast in chevron formation. What a shot! What do you do?

With the X-T1 you turn the dial to change the shutter speed to something fast, say 1/1500 sec. You then turn the aperture dial to something on the wide side, because you don't want to have to use too high an ISO. The metering mode needs to be changed from average to spot, and the drive mode from single frame to high speed with focus tracking. Finally, the ISO needs to be boosted, because of the high shutter speed, or maybe reset to Auto.

Sadly, by the time that you've done all this, the geese have gone back to Canada and have begun to raise their families.

Many, if not most cameras these days have grouped custom settings. This allow a wide range of desired settings to be combined into a single setting and this then assigned to a custom function button. That's the way I always work. I have at least two custom settings, one for everyday walk-around shooting and one for a situation such as illustrated above, where I need settings appropriate for fast action. The geese may fly by, there could be a fight across the street, a scaffolding is falling off a construction site – press a single button and you're ready to capture the shot.

So this is the price that one pays with the Fuji X-T1. It is a beautifully designed camera from a user's point of view. The controls are visible, they are manually set, and they are a pleasure to use. For leisurely shooting, I couldn't ask for more. But for some photographers, including me, but maybe not you, this isn't enough. I have become so used to having custom setting groupings on a custom function button, available in a split-second for whatever may happen, that when I realized that the X-T1 didn't offer this ability I was quite crestfallen. It was as if I discovered that the girl of my dreams snores in her sleep".


Taken from: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/fuji_x_t1_further_thoughts.shtml

P.S. This is why I think that all this mania for faked "old" retro design with top dials and what not is only good for certain users who have specific needs (ok I'll be honest it sucks), but for most of us more modern electronic controls and modern design with lot's of customizable buttons (A6000) and dedicated mode dial - is the best way to go.

Bottom line is, I previously thought that A6000 is a much better choice in terms of sheer IQ (better sensor, resolution, dynamic range and so on). And the only thing that Fuji's X-T1 had better was so claimed manual controls supposedly better. However, it turns out even in this regard Fuji failed in terms of functionality. Again, I'm not saying X-T1 is a bad camera, after all it makes sense to buy one if one is heavily invested in Fuji lenses, but still if i was a new user - I would have ordered A6000 in a heartbeat over X-T1 any day, even if A6000 was pricier (which is not). IMHO it's just wrong way of design in the first place, especially now in our modern life of technology. Nikon's Df failure continues with Fuji's X-T1 drawbacks and limitations. I would imagine Nikon learned their mistake and will not repeat it. i wonder if Fuji's next camera will be a more modern design to somehow redeem itself.
This isn't a critique of top plate manual dials though - it's a critique of marked uncustomizable top plate manual dials and no PASM dial. None of this would apply to the A7/r which have similar layout but their dials are all customizable and you have custom recall settings on the PASM dial. Interestingly, a week or so ago the Fuji forums had a complaint about how useless the position of the shutter and ISO dials were ... something I could deduce just by looking at the pictures and imagining my A7 had two hands needed to control all the dials (and trying to adjust the PASM dial because it sits in an identical position with XT1's shutter dial). Funny enough, having instant recall settings (which the LL article wants) is required of a PASM dial which some of the people posting in this thread seem to think is useless.
On a NEX or A6000, I would quickly change the mode dial to Sports Action, point and shoot. He has made a valid point, there.

And about the geese going home to Canada, eh? They are pretty fast flyers and it's not so far. Within the realm of possibility. If Fuji X APS-C's are are slow as some say.
 
P.S. This is why I think that all this mania for faked "old" retro design with top dials and what not is only good for certain users who have specific needs (ok I'll be honest it sucks), but for most of us more modern electronic controls and modern design with lot's of customizable buttons (A6000) and dedicated mode dial - is the best way to go.

Bottom line is, I previously thought that A6000 is a much better choice in terms of sheer IQ (better sensor, resolution, dynamic range and so on). And the only thing that Fuji's X-T1 had better was so claimed manual controls supposedly better. However, it turns out even in this regard Fuji failed in terms of functionality. Again, I'm not saying X-T1 is a bad camera, after all it makes sense to buy one if one is heavily invested in Fuji lenses, but still if i was a new user - I would have ordered A6000 in a heartbeat over X-T1 any day, even if A6000 was pricier (which is not). IMHO it's just wrong way of design in the first place, especially now in our modern life of technology. Nikon's Df failure continues with Fuji's X-T1 drawbacks and limitations. I would imagine Nikon learned their mistake and will not repeat it. i wonder if Fuji's next camera will be a more modern design to somehow redeem itself.
For APS-C you are straining existing lenses for 24 MP. Look at DXOMark. Best lenses on NEX 7 are about "16 MP" perceptual resolution on the APS-C cameras, and that is for a Sigma 60mm f/2.8 which doesn't support PDAF :)

I personally have very little interest in the A6000. It is a nice camera, appears that Sony has caught up for AF-S and has maybe surpassed competition for AF-C (a mode I never use), but the good lenses that I would want to focus fast are fairly slow focusing lenses and the A6000 likely won't make them much faster.

It might be wrong for you, but I would still buy the X-T1 any day over the A6000, but it is because my interests are probably different than yours, and that is okay.

Fuji needs no redeeming. Not everyone shares your opinion.

Eric
 
For APS-C you are straining existing lenses for 24 MP. Look at DXOMark. Best lenses on NEX 7 are about "16 MP" perceptual resolution on the APS-C cameras,
DXOmark has some anomalies for perceptual megapixels - just today they published results for that same lens as 18 P-MP on the 20MP A3000!
 
Who gives a flying duck whether I miss an odd shot every now and then because I don't have a preset for shooting "flying-geese-against-the-sun-moving-south" mode. It probably will look like ship anyway.
Many users do. It's not about "flying-geese-against-the-sun-moving-south", but about ergonomics. Apparently X-T1 can't hold it in this regard. It's limited. MAy be a good thing for those who wants leisure photography.
btw Fuji X-T1 vs. Sony A7R? Fuji wins.
Well, for starters X-T1 should be compared to same sensor like Nex-6 or A6000. And even there in terms of IQ - it's a toss up who wins or not. A7 is in another league. A7R - are you kidding me? Let's give Fuji 2-3 years until it can produce something that can compete with A7/R. Unfortunately in 2-3 years Sony will be ahead miles and miles again.
 
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Well, for starters X-T1 should be compared to same sensor like Nex-6 or A6000. And even there in terms of IQ - it's a toss up who wins or not. A7 is in another league. A7R - are you kidding me? Let's give Fuji 2-3 years until it can produce something that can compete with A7/R. Unfortunately in 2-3 years Sony will be ahead miles and miles again.
If you want lenses, the X-T1 beats the A7/R. If all you care about is the size of your sensor... well that sounds like a personal problem.

Of course you could give sony 2-3 years until it can produce a lens lineup that can compete with Fuji. (hint: it won't)
 
Who gives a flying duck whether I miss an odd shot every now and then because I don't have a preset for shooting "flying-geese-against-the-sun-moving-south" mode. It probably will look like ship anyway.
Many users do. It's not about "flying-geese-against-the-sun-moving-south", but about ergonomics. Apparently X-T1 can't hold it in this regard. It's limited. MAy be a good thing for those who wants leisure photography.
btw Fuji X-T1 vs. Sony A7R? Fuji wins.
Well, for starters X-T1 should be compared to same sensor like Nex-6 or A6000. And even there in terms of IQ - it's a toss up who wins or not. A7 is in another league. A7R - are you kidding me? Let's give Fuji 2-3 years until it can produce something that can compete with A7/R. Unfortunately in 2-3 years Sony will be ahead miles and miles again.
I'm reading reviews all over the internet with photogs going ga-ga over the X-T1, I don't imagine these same people will have the same enthusiasm with the a6000

Didn't Sony have a huge head start for making e-mount lenses compared to Fuji, and which is the higher regarded lens ecosystem right now?
 
I have to disagree here. This criticism is ridiculous (not yours, the LL piece) - it's a bit like criticising a guitar for not being as loud as an electric guitar connected to an amp. No one is disguising the fact that both the Nikon Df (which is as far from a failure as you can imagine, and a much better all round camera than DPR would have you believe - bear in mind they messed up the A7 review too) and the X-T1 have manual, dial based controls.

The kind of speed of control that Michael Reichmann is writing about is great for some, and horrible for others, myself included, precisely because it distances a user from taking actual control of their camera. Frankly, while I like the A7, it's something of a compromise because it's not enough like the RX1 (which of course has more in the way of manual controls).
Limitations of manual controls (on X-T1 example).

"But, as the saying goes, be careful what you wish for. It wasn't long after the first blush of passion had passed that I realized that this oh-so-desirable design had a dark side. The camera has no customization settings for shooting modes. This means that when you want to quickly change from one type of shooting to another, every applicable control has to be individually altered. Let me explain.

You are standing out in the field in the late afternoon light taking a shot of your girlfriend posing demurely by a fence. You've set the camera to either manual focus, or maybe single button AF. The shutter speed is moderate, because you're hand holding, the ISO is low for optimum quality, and you have set the aperture fairly wide for shallow depth of field. You're using average zone metering because she is side lit. Drive mode is set to single frame, and metering for matrix.

All of a sudden, an amazing flock of Canada Geese appears behind her. Their wings are illuminated by the low sun, but they're flying fast in chevron formation. What a shot! What do you do?

With the X-T1 you turn the dial to change the shutter speed to something fast, say 1/1500 sec. You then turn the aperture dial to something on the wide side, because you don't want to have to use too high an ISO. The metering mode needs to be changed from average to spot, and the drive mode from single frame to high speed with focus tracking. Finally, the ISO needs to be boosted, because of the high shutter speed, or maybe reset to Auto.

Sadly, by the time that you've done all this, the geese have gone back to Canada and have begun to raise their families.

Many, if not most cameras these days have grouped custom settings. This allow a wide range of desired settings to be combined into a single setting and this then assigned to a custom function button. That's the way I always work. I have at least two custom settings, one for everyday walk-around shooting and one for a situation such as illustrated above, where I need settings appropriate for fast action. The geese may fly by, there could be a fight across the street, a scaffolding is falling off a construction site – press a single button and you're ready to capture the shot.

So this is the price that one pays with the Fuji X-T1. It is a beautifully designed camera from a user's point of view. The controls are visible, they are manually set, and they are a pleasure to use. For leisurely shooting, I couldn't ask for more. But for some photographers, including me, but maybe not you, this isn't enough. I have become so used to having custom setting groupings on a custom function button, available in a split-second for whatever may happen, that when I realized that the X-T1 didn't offer this ability I was quite crestfallen. It was as if I discovered that the girl of my dreams snores in her sleep".


Taken from: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/fuji_x_t1_further_thoughts.shtml

P.S. This is why I think that all this mania for faked "old" retro design with top dials and what not is only good for certain users who have specific needs (ok I'll be honest it sucks), but for most of us more modern electronic controls and modern design with lot's of customizable buttons (A6000) and dedicated mode dial - is the best way to go.

Bottom line is, I previously thought that A6000 is a much better choice in terms of sheer IQ (better sensor, resolution, dynamic range and so on). And the only thing that Fuji's X-T1 had better was so claimed manual controls supposedly better. However, it turns out even in this regard Fuji failed in terms of functionality. Again, I'm not saying X-T1 is a bad camera, after all it makes sense to buy one if one is heavily invested in Fuji lenses, but still if i was a new user - I would have ordered A6000 in a heartbeat over X-T1 any day, even if A6000 was pricier (which is not). IMHO it's just wrong way of design in the first place, especially now in our modern life of technology. Nikon's Df failure continues with Fuji's X-T1 drawbacks and limitations. I would imagine Nikon learned their mistake and will not repeat it. i wonder if Fuji's next camera will be a more modern design to somehow redeem itself.
 
Who gives a flying duck whether I miss an odd shot every now and then because I don't have a preset for shooting "flying-geese-against-the-sun-moving-south" mode. It probably will look like ship anyway.
Many users do. It's not about "flying-geese-against-the-sun-moving-south", but about ergonomics. Apparently X-T1 can't hold it in this regard. It's limited. MAy be a good thing for those who wants leisure photography.
btw Fuji X-T1 vs. Sony A7R? Fuji wins.
Well, for starters X-T1 should be compared to same sensor like Nex-6 or A6000. And even there in terms of IQ - it's a toss up who wins or not. A7 is in another league. A7R - are you kidding me? Let's give Fuji 2-3 years until it can produce something that can compete with A7/R. Unfortunately in 2-3 years Sony will be ahead miles and miles again.
I'm reading reviews all over the internet with photogs going ga-ga over the X-T1, I don't imagine these same people will have the same enthusiasm with the a6000
A6000 is not even in production and yet there's even more "ga-ga" over it. While I have already heard about lot's of complaints about X-T1 and not so good reviews. It depends what reviews one reads. :)
Didn't Sony have a huge head start for making e-mount lenses compared to Fuji, and which is the higher regarded lens ecosystem right now?
I don't know about Fuji users, but for me obviously nothing compares to E24Z in terms of contrast, semi-macro capabilities and sharpness; or to SEL10-18 f4 in terms of IQ combined with lightness and compactness (Fuji's closest lens is a monster in terms of size and weight compared to that); or compactness of SEL20mm prime; or compactness of 16-50 PZ zoom (try finding that compact zoom in Fuji lineup); or travel zoom 18-200 (pick any 3 versions of it, including one PZ for videographers); So not much regard if you can't have needed lenses in Fuji lineup. Every coin has 2 sides of story.
 
Well, for starters X-T1 should be compared to same sensor like Nex-6 or A6000. And even there in terms of IQ - it's a toss up who wins or not. A7 is in another league. A7R - are you kidding me? Let's give Fuji 2-3 years until it can produce something that can compete with A7/R. Unfortunately in 2-3 years Sony will be ahead miles and miles again.
If you want lenses, the X-T1 beats the A7/R. If all you care about is the size of your sensor... well that sounds like a personal problem.
If all you care about is lenses...well that sounds like a personal problem - sounds familiar? Truth is that even 2 primes that are available now for FE mount - they beat the Fuji (speaking in your own language).
Of course you could give sony 2-3 years until it can produce a lens lineup that can compete with Fuji. (hint: it won't)
In 2-3 years Sony will have damn impressive FE lineup of around 10-15 lenses. Fuji will have zilch. It just won't compete in FF. Period. When it does, come back and will talk more.
 
I completely agree. I can't count how many times i have missed a chevron formation due to a portrait session. Never again...
 
I had this just this afternoon. I was hanging out at the park, taking pictures of a purple flower using "S" mode.

This kid being pulled by his dog was running by. I quickly switched over to "SCN" mode and "Sport."

Nailed it.
 
Well, for starters X-T1 should be compared to same sensor like Nex-6 or A6000. And even there in terms of IQ - it's a toss up who wins or not. A7 is in another league. A7R - are you kidding me? Let's give Fuji 2-3 years until it can produce something that can compete with A7/R. Unfortunately in 2-3 years Sony will be ahead miles and miles again.
If you want lenses, the X-T1 beats the A7/R. If all you care about is the size of your sensor... well that sounds like a personal problem.
If all you care about is lenses...well that sounds like a personal problem - sounds familiar? Truth is that even 2 primes that are available now for FE mount - they beat the Fuji (speaking in your own language).
Of course you could give sony 2-3 years until it can produce a lens lineup that can compete with Fuji. (hint: it won't)
In 2-3 years Sony will have damn impressive FE lineup of around 10-15 lenses. Fuji will have zilch. It just won't compete in FF. Period. When it does, come back and will talk more.
I didn't know Sony had 2 primes already available wow they're quick! Nice prices too. A7R with one lens is $3400... great if you're a pro or trustfunder.
 
Who gives a flying duck whether I miss an odd shot every now and then because I don't have a preset for shooting "flying-geese-against-the-sun-moving-south" mode. It probably will look like ship anyway.
Many users do. It's not about "flying-geese-against-the-sun-moving-south", but about ergonomics. Apparently X-T1 can't hold it in this regard. It's limited. MAy be a good thing for those who wants leisure photography.
btw Fuji X-T1 vs. Sony A7R? Fuji wins.
Well, for starters X-T1 should be compared to same sensor like Nex-6 or A6000. And even there in terms of IQ - it's a toss up who wins or not. A7 is in another league. A7R - are you kidding me? Let's give Fuji 2-3 years until it can produce something that can compete with A7/R. Unfortunately in 2-3 years Sony will be ahead miles and miles again.
I'm reading reviews all over the internet with photogs going ga-ga over the X-T1, I don't imagine these same people will have the same enthusiasm with the a6000
A6000 is not even in production and yet there's even more "ga-ga" over it. While I have already heard about lot's of complaints about X-T1 and not so good reviews. It depends what reviews one reads. :)
Didn't Sony have a huge head start for making e-mount lenses compared to Fuji, and which is the higher regarded lens ecosystem right now?
I don't know about Fuji users, but for me obviously nothing compares to E24Z in terms of contrast, semi-macro capabilities and sharpness; or to SEL10-18 f4 in terms of IQ combined with lightness and compactness (Fuji's closest lens is a monster in terms of size and weight compared to that); or compactness of SEL20mm prime; or compactness of 16-50 PZ zoom (try finding that compact zoom in Fuji lineup); or travel zoom 18-200 (pick any 3 versions of it, including one PZ for videographers); So not much regard if you can't have needed lenses in Fuji lineup. Every coin has 2 sides of story.
I would really hope the a6000 is in production by now. Otherwise they're in big trouble in making that release date.

Also find it amusing that you boast about the superiority of sony lenses when you admitted that you don't know what the competing ecysostems are
 
If you want to walk about ready for a wide range of shooting situations, you can do it on the XT-1. You set up auto ISO before you walk out the door. You simply twist the shutter dial for moving objects and snap.

Furthermore, Reichmann ignored the choice of lens. For a wide range, you put a capable zoom on. If you want a high-quality portrait, you have a mild tele-length prime on the camera - and you understand that you are not set up for other shooting situations.
 

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