SushiEater wrote:
rrccad wrote:
SushiEater wrote:
rrccad wrote:
SushiEater wrote:
Vivid1 wrote:
It boggles the mind what Nikon is allowed to get away with.... The D610 is as much an admission of a faulty design in the D600 as anything, yet very few Nikonites seem to care? I would have expected a wave of protest from D600 owners, yet the only complaint I see is regarding the feature list of the 'upgrade' - as if most Nikonites enjoy being milked - strange....
Milked?
How about 5D3 with about the same sensor as 5D2 and the only improvement of focusing system for $700 more than 5D2 and $500 more than D800. And all of it 4 years later!!!!!
odd .. i see FPS, viewfinder, improved sealing, dual card slots, 1 series AF, video improvements, AEB and most of the 1 series featureset and released with it's normal scheduled time frame and was released for a cheaper price locally. the foriegn market had more do to with the 5D Mark III seemingly a higher "cost". the Mark III was actually released at a price that was 10% cheaper than the Mark II.
Some of these features are not very useful for everybody. 5D2 was $3500 for just few months and dropped to $2800 very quickly. 5D3 is still advertized at $3500 though I paid much less.
Nope. Wrong. The 5D Mark II was released at 300,000 Yen. The Mark III was released at 270,000 Yen. Canon doesn't manufacture the camera in the united states, but they do so in Japan.
I don't live in Japan so I don't care. Plus there was probably different exchange rate now and then.
By all logic D800 should have been at least $4000.
D610 is only 1year later.
which was out of time for when it should have come out and only came out because of a manufacturing defect (obviously). which was never admitted to. heck nikon never admitted to any fault or wrong doing with the D600.
That is because some people blew it out of proportion.
1. Oil can't be sprayed forever. After certain amount of cleanings it would just stop.
2. On behalf of Nikon I apologize for the oil spots on D600. Do you feel better now? I would rather company do something about it than apologizing. My D800 attracts dust like crazy. Am I worried? Nope.
Some? there was obviously enough that Roger from Lens Rentals said 100% of the returned D600's had to be cleaned after return - and obviously enough that NIkon felt the need to come out with a D610 body a little over a year later without any real gains other than firmware mods and most likely a new shutter mechanism.
1. How many bodies does LR have compared to how many sold? This is the best selling camera and and I am sure LR report is not an indicator of the problem.
2. None of the DSLR in the world (except for Sigma) stay clean. That is the fact of life. Even in this thread someone posted that after few cleanings problem was going away. I clean my D800e at least once a week. I don't see why D600 users shouldn't do the same.
3. Nikon came out with D610 to shut you whiners up. Bravo Nikon!!!!!! Very smart move. Instead of fixing what is not broken they sell more cameras.
In the face of factual and demonstrated time and time again that oil / dust, etc would collect in all these D600's in the exact same area - really? coincidence? All the threads? heck, even people that have gotten multiple shutter replacements are still having issues? overblown?
Yes. The amount of people complaining doesn't mean anything unless you survey ALL of the owners. There are many who don't have this problem. People just tend to blow things out of proportions.
do existing users sell the D600 and spend another 300-400 to get a camera that doesn't have a manufacturing defect? looking at the nikon forums the "fix" of replacing the shutter may or may not resolve the issue.
There is nothing wrong with a shutter.
Oh dear lord - except it spews an overly large amount of particles on the sensor - no of course not.
So Nikon used a little more oil than they should have. No big deal. After few cleanings oil problem goes away.
do they even sell a lemon without a twist of moral ethics if nikon can't eliminate the problem on their D600?
D600 is not a lemon.
Actually if it wasn't Nikon wouldn't have issued a D6100 a year later with the same functionality and you entirely misquoted and also mis-read that.
Like I said, very smart move. If the price drops far enough I might buy one. A little oil doesn't bother me.
At least I know shutter mechanism is well lubricated. I would be very upset if it was other way around and shutter failed prematurely because of lack of lubrication.
It creates a mess. right now D600's are selling okay on ebay,etc - will they continue to sell well when the D610 becomes more in the product chain? how about retailers stick with D600 inventories? this is a mess.
I don't see the reason to sell at all. New D610 is the same camera practically.
You're kidding right? These distributors have paid for these D600's sitting on the shelve with the expectation that he camera would have a normal shelf life, not a slew footed 13 month one.
And Canon came out with 50D and killed 40D sales a year later. So what? You lose some you win some. Facts of life.
