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Would anyone else sacrifice video for better IQ?
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needmoretoys
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I would sacrifice video for better IQ. However, I would not sacrifice fast AF in live view for better IQ than what it is now. Since video and live view AF use the same technology, I guess that I would have to say that I would not sacrifice video by default. Good live view is important to me for macro. I'm tired of kneeling in the dirt and bending over to peer through the right angle viewfinder on my old 10D. The 70D finally promises to be the Canon body that I have wanted. I'm not willing to spend the money to create a whole new system based on something like the Panasonic GH3.
Video may not be your priority, but it certainly would be wonderful to have good autofocus if ever you need it. Don't assume IQ is going to be inferior. The camera has barely been launched.
I think the fast AF in live view would certainly be a bonus. This camera could be a hit if it can do everything as promised and do it well.
I would certainly be in line for this body.
I think the fast AF in live view would certainly be a bonus. This camera could be a hit if it can do everything as promised and do it well.
I would certainly be in line for this body.
ByronP
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Do we really know for sure that the new sensor won't significantly improve iq? Having each photo site capable of spliting in two seems to me to allow them to significantly improve iq. Canon has a bad habit of releasing a camera and not fully implementing what the camera can do until forced to. Or, in this case maybe they just don't have the software ready.
As to video, I have never used it. But, that does not mean it is not an important feature and they are getting ahead of the cunsumer demand curve.
Cameras are not competing with smart phones that do stills and video. Whilt the quality sucks, they are getting better and better. I even know pros who do alot of their work with a smart phone.
So the photography world is changing fast and each ofthe manufacturers need to change or be push aside.
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As to video, I have never used it. But, that does not mean it is not an important feature and they are getting ahead of the cunsumer demand curve.
Cameras are not competing with smart phones that do stills and video. Whilt the quality sucks, they are getting better and better. I even know pros who do alot of their work with a smart phone.
So the photography world is changing fast and each ofthe manufacturers need to change or be push aside.
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Mark B.
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For $1200 you get a lot of camera, even if video was excluded. This is several hundred less than what I paid for my 30D; the price gap is much larger when compared to my D30!
I have to be honest, it's very tempting to get this now although I am going to wait a bit for the 7D II. If it doesn't come by February I may well pick up the 70D; that will give time for the early adapters to find all the bugs
I very seriously doubt the still image quality would be any better w/o video. The hardware & firmware is already in place, so it's not like there was much development & engineering cost to include it. What Canon did to improve liveview AF applies just as much to still imaging as it does to video, so that cost would be there with or without video.
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needmoretoys
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Number 1, I didn't assume that IQ was going to be inferior in the 70D from my comment. I don't know how you got that out of what I said. I also said that I would want the good live view AF for macro.
vlab
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I don't shoot video, so yes, I would, however, with new AF option in video, I would probably try it, but it will never be even close to my primary option.
nofumble
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I use a P&S Sony RX100 for movie and casual shooting. Its quality rival my DSLR. Just plan to upgrade the DSLR camera for speed shooting. So better movie capability is not attractive.
Holding a DSLR for 30 min video shoot is not something I want to do. Yes I can put on a tripod but how many chance it is with me.
Holding a DSLR for 30 min video shoot is not something I want to do. Yes I can put on a tripod but how many chance it is with me.
NancyP
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Yes. I don't do video at the moment, if I want to "tell a story", I would rather do so in a still photo essay. There will be plenty of chances to try video. The cameras are growing by leaps and bounds. If I want, I can install Magic Lantern firmware on my 60D, and learn. 4K video cameras are within reach of well off amateurs (approx. same price as 5D3).
For what it is worth, I have sacrificed usable video for better IQ, in buying the APS-C Foveon sensor Sigma DP2Merrill for landscape photography.
For what it is worth, I have sacrificed usable video for better IQ, in buying the APS-C Foveon sensor Sigma DP2Merrill for landscape photography.
and lot of time and patience on editing. I don't have the patience for it, my wife does. But she is happy with her iPad3. The 10 inch viewfinder of the iPad is hard to beat by any camera.
Yes. I may buy the 70D for - speed shooting, better AF, articulate screen, and low light performance (if there is).
Video is not on wish list. I can use Magic Lantern Focus peaking in video anyway.
I already decided no 6D because I don't want to part away with my lenses. FF lenses are heavy and 2-3x expensive.
Yes. I may buy the 70D for - speed shooting, better AF, articulate screen, and low light performance (if there is).
Video is not on wish list. I can use Magic Lantern Focus peaking in video anyway.
I already decided no 6D because I don't want to part away with my lenses. FF lenses are heavy and 2-3x expensive.
That's disturbing. I never thought of it that way. I wonder if their FF strategy is the same?
In answer to the OP's question - yes. I would prefer better IQ. Don't care about the video. I realize that we don't yet know the IQ from this new sensor, and that they will no doubt gain market share by adding soccer mom video capabilities. But if they concentrate only on soccer mom video capability, and not IQ, they're essentially turning their backs on another group. And probably for another four years...
If I had to bet money, I would bet that the IQ from this new sensor will not be substantially better. I'll bet that they only tried to keep it on par with previous offerings, while adding soccer mom video focus. Preliminary indications are as such (noise on par with the 60D).
Nice new technology. Unfortunately it's not what many of us wanted.
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Stakeouttoo
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NO VIDEO for me .. have my 60d for 18 months now--never shoot video with it... and I still have my FLIP if I want video.. or my older Canon 850is P&S.. to me video just doesn't belong on an SLR... I'll take the better IQ than the video gimmickry and marketing hype they use to sell SLR's with these days
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Ray
my Canon 60d sure beats using that ol' Petri 7s
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Ray
my Canon 60d sure beats using that ol' Petri 7s
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Multi-SportsMom
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MY point is I cannot shoot pictures while recording. So I have the need for 2 cameras. I'd rather use my smaller video camera. The record with a dslr.
I dont care about DOF in video. I need all in focus.
For that, you need an Ipad3. Everything is razor sharp, bright, and clear. 10 inch touch screen is unbeatable.
That's a good point. Lots of DOF is not where DSLR's excel. Exactly the opposite. They're good for shallow DOF, while small sensor devices are not.
This all reminds me of a Canon video I saw a few years ago about Canon's vision of the future of photography in 20 years. Canon's prediction in that video was that there would be no still photography in 20 years. Everything would be extremely high quality video, and if you want stills you just take a frame grab from the video stream. I guess that tells us a little about Canon's current infatuation with video...
BTW: You can currently shoot stills while shooting video. But they're low resolution stills, and it causes a brief interruption in the video.
Don Richardson
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I have no interest in video at all but I don't see Canon ever giving us the option of a cameras with or without video for better still shot IQ.
Mohammad AlLawati
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