Maybe now, but when i bought it i got adisc, and have discs for every version for the last 15 years. Never did trust downloads.
With CC will we still be able to run it on two computers, and disable one and put it onto a third if needs be?
"Can I use the software I download from Creative Cloud on multiple computers?
Oh, I believe it. I didn't write that Adobe intentionally leaves some bugs unfixed, mainly because I haven't seen any smoking gun documentation, but I'm as sure as you are that it's how Adobe operates. Human nature being what it is, it's not surprising that those that praise or at least excuse Adobe for changing to the CC subscription policy because as some have said (to paraphrase) "if it's good for their bottom line that's all that matters", aren't willing to admit that leaving significant bugs unfixed is also good for the bottom line. That being the case, to be consistent they should also praise Adobe for pursuing this practice that's better for increasing their profits than it is for putting their loyal customers first. If enough customers (and potential customers) realize this, then they may also realize that they might be better off emulating Adobe by putting themselves first even if it means that their money might go to companies other than Adobe.
CNET presupposes you don't already have a version of CS. If you did, historically an upgrade some time between 18 - 28 months cost $179 - $199, and you had the program. With CC, you pay $10/mo for the first year, ($120.00), then $20/mo thereafter, (that would be an additional $120 - $320) ... so that would be $199 max for the CS model and $440 for the CC model ... and should you decide not to continue paying monthly ... you have nothing. CC is a bad deal for a photog that does not need nor use all the other "bundled" programs ... and an absolute revenue enhancer for Abobe since it would no longer have to bear the cost of delivering physical media and it would have a steady monthly revenue stream.
It shouldn't be necessary to be specific although it would be nice if one or two were mentioned. I'd agree if youhad written instead "The way I use CS6, I have not yet encountered any bugs." Don't you think that any software that's as complex as Photoshop, LR, text editors, word processors, database apps, printing software, even backup/restore software is bound to have more than a few bugs? If you don't think so, the kindest way to explain it would be to say that you're either naive or gullible.
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Capitalism is a powerful economic tool, but one of the important roles of government in the US is to regulate capitalism and corporations. The American founding fathers realized the danger of corporations. Because corporations can accumulate wealth and property indefinitely, they have the potential of becoming more powerful than many traditional governments. The initial thought was only to give out corporate licenses for at most, 1 year time spans. (Seems like that the recent insights that Adobe acquired could be adopted by the US government, Adobe's corporate license could only be renewed a month at a timeat a very high rental rate by the US government)
Now corporations control many facets of American life, our news outlets, health and medicine, and influence almost all of our senators and representative through "campaign contributions". Campaign contributions seem remarkably similar to bribes to me, but the Republican Supreme Court says no - they are actually free speech. Hmmmm... So when a Senator does something that directly benefits a corporation that gave him or her a campaign donation, thats free speech...and not a bribe...Hmmm
I'm not a professional, but i do sell pictures on a regular basis. but if i was a professional i would be plenty nervous. Here is a major tool for my profession, one that i have spent years learning to do well, and that tool can be removed from my reach by exorbitant pricing schedules. Files that contain all my best work could become useless trash if i fail to pay Adobe's continuing charges and whatever rate changes they dream up)
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Philnw2 wrote:
Capitalism is a powerful economic tool, but one of the important roles of government in the US is to regulate capitalism and corporations. The American founding fathers realized the danger of corporations. Because corporations can accumulate wealth and property indefinitely, they have the potential of becoming more powerful than many traditional governments. The initial thought was only to give out corporate licenses for at most, 1 year time spans. (Seems like that the recent insights that Adobe acquired could be adopted by the US government, Adobe's corporate license could only be renewed a month at a time
Now corporations control many facets of American life, our news outlets, health and medicine, and influence almost all of our senators and representative through "campaign contributions". Campaign contributions seem remarkably similar to bribes to me, but the Republican Supreme Court says no - they are actually free speech. Hmmmm... So when a Senator does something that directly benefits a corporation that gave him or her a campaign donation, thats free speech...and not a bribe...Hmmm
I'm not a professional, but i do sell pictures on a regular basis. but if i was a professional i would be plenty nervous. Here is a major tool for my profession, one that i have spent years learning to do well, and that tool can be removed from my reach by exorbitant pricing schedules. Files that contain all my best work could become useless trash if i fail to pay Adobe's continuing charges and whatever rate changes they dream up)
PhotoLine might do what you want. From the manual:
I agree that Adobe has every right to do whatever they want. Since there are many pretty good Raw conversion programs out there, and used in conjunction with either an older version of Photoshop, or another editor...many photographers will still be well served in leaving Adobe. To me this (renting a cloud) sets a precedent which I don't want to be part of. Adobe has every right...but so do we.
Eventually the cell phone contract ends, and you get to keep the phone and continue to use it. For a leased car, that sounds more comparable. In that case, you are getting more car for an equivalent car payment, or pay less for the same car. If Adobe charges a lot less, then it may be worth it. For people who buy PS and then keep it for years before upgrading, maybe it'll end up being a lot more expensive with the "renting" approach.
I bought Paint Shop Pro for about $50 (1/2 of a combo-pack with the Video Studio for a total of $100), and that may have been 2 years ago. One might think that $25/yr. is a bargain. ;-)
The logic is that it works for them? Microsoft is going to do something similar with Office (Word, Excel, etc.).
This is the bottom line -- you are going to have to decide if you really have to have this particular software with this particular vendor. I'd say that maybe this is an opportunity for some competition, but it almost seems like most of the competition decided that it's just not worth it. You've got PSP and GIMP and maybe a handful of smaller programs that are probably less capable. I can see that for the professional, there are probably features that you're just not going to get anywhere else, but there are alternatives for most people.
If you don't use the extra features, why pay for it?
You bought into the vendor and tied yourself into the ecosystem and never noticed the risk until now.
The economy is already on the verge of collapse, partly from too many people buying too many things on too many maxed out credit cards.
