EOS3D confirmed for September

Horst Kretzschmar · May 4, 2003

As known up to now, there only will be one macro within the first available lenses and no further special accessories for macro work. You're absolutely right - in former times I myself was an owner oft the excellent Olymous Macro System with different heads on the Macro Tube - but a lot of people like me changed to other systems because of ongoing developements. I don't think, that this niche will be their target.

Olaf.dk said:
frankb said:

i thought the 4/3 system was due to be released in March03.....any
news as to when it will be released? (i too find this new system
extremely interesting).

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I don't know much about a release date... I saw that the German
photo magazine "Fotomagazin" presents the system in their May issue
"Sensation Olympus kündigt Profi-Spiegelreflexsystem an", see:
http://www.fotomagazin.de/
Probably says more about it inside the magazine, so if you could
get to read that somewhere, maybe at a library? [Of course, you
would have to be able to read and understand German].

Olaf
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Horst Kretzschmar · May 4, 2003

Andreas P. said:
The introduction of the EOS3D will be at:

http://www.ifa-berlin.de/fset_home_e.html

Regards,

Andreas

Why do you believe - any information ?

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Andreas P. · May 4, 2003

Hi Horst,

I guess i read something like this in Colorfoto but not in a straight statement
like Canon will introduce the EOS3D at the IFA

Regards,

Andreas

Simon Watkins · May 4, 2003

Jim Dawson said:
no integral battery grip. If so, I'll sell my 1D for it.

Jim

Absolutely agreed. Nothing larger than the 10D please. In fact, I'd be more than happy if they used the same body for the 3D, and just upgraded the internals. 10D is a substantial well built body in it's own right that handles nicely. Doesn't need messing with.

Simon

DavidP #28649 · May 4, 2003

It all depends on the minimum focusing distance of the lens. I imagine that if you are anywhere near that distance, things in the background will be nicely blurred.

Petteri Sulonen said:
At 30 mm you can actually get some OOF backgrounds, so it sort of
makes sense for it. But a 14? Hmm...

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hyslopc · May 4, 2003

1.3x would be a huge upgrade coming from 1.6x. If it's got 1.3x and 1-series AF, I'll be upgrading from my D60 for sure. Anything more will be a bonus. If Canon is replacing the 1D at the same time, then the 3D will have to have 1-series AF and more than 6MP because it'll be competing in the same price range against the 1D on the second-hand market. Either that or it will have to be much smaller/lighter than the 1D.

Adam-T said:
1.5Mp more than the 10D? no way - an extra 1 FPS? no way - 45 focus
points? maybe , maybe not, compared to a D60 then YES but the 10D
is no slouch in AF (when you get a good one) in the first place ..

It's got to be more than a measly 1.3X and the EOS3's CPU deficient
version of the 1V AF to tempt people -------- You can tell that I
REALLY want it to be full frame can't you ;-)

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hyslopc · May 4, 2003

...assuming it's using the (current) 1-series electronics, which makes a lots of sense, 9MP would allow 4fps. Then again, they'll need a faster platform if they're going to release a 1D replacement with 8fps and more than 4MP. If the 3D uses the same electronics as the 1D replacement, and the 9MP CMOS has enough bandwidth, then higher than 4fps would be possible. I doubt Canon marketing would allow that, though. 9MP, 4fps, and 45-point AF puts the 3D squarely in-between the 10D, the current 1D, and the 1Ds.

If Canon had an AF system between the 10D's 7-point AF and the 1-series 45-point AF, they'd probably like to use that, but AFAIK they don't (thankfully).

DavidP said:
Definitely 45 AF points. Just like the EOS-3.

FPS will still be 3, IMO.

This is for the EOS-3D, not the 1D update.

Oh, it'll run on a BP-511 battery pack, and BG-ED3 will work on it.

Remember, you read it here first!

Adam-T said:

1.5Mp more than the 10D? no way - an extra 1 FPS? no way - 45 focus
points? maybe , maybe not, compared to a D60 then YES but the 10D
is no slouch in AF (when you get a good one) in the first place ..

It's got to be more than a measly 1.3X and the EOS3's CPU deficient
version of the 1V AF to tempt people -------- You can tell that I
REALLY want it to be full frame can't you ;-)

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hyslopc · May 4, 2003

The body won't be as robust or weatherproof like the 1D and 1Ds. That will allow it to be lighter, and will avoid giving the 1-series too much competition.

ignay · May 4, 2003

1.3, 10D size, 6MP, D60 original price, 1D AF = must upgrade for D30/60 users.

hyslopc said:
Adam-T said:

1.5Mp more than the 10D? no way - an extra 1 FPS? no way - 45 focus
points? maybe , maybe not, compared to a D60 then YES but the 10D
is no slouch in AF (when you get a good one) in the first place ..

It's got to be more than a measly 1.3X and the EOS3's CPU deficient
version of the 1V AF to tempt people -------- You can tell that I
REALLY want it to be full frame can't you ;-)

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Pixel Warp · May 4, 2003

... cure to all problems and it is just rumor, albeit prolly a reliable one. Anyone remember all the same hype when the 10D was just a rumor? There was a post about this just recently in fact. This forum gets more insane by the minute.

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mike kobal · May 4, 2003

Paul Pope said:
Was talking with my Canon source today at the Photoimaging
conference in Melbourne.

Can confirm to you that the EOS 3D is on schedule for a September
release.

Before you all ask a few things I DON'T know...

1) I don't know how many MP it will have but its more then the 10D

2) I don't know if its full frame or 1.3 but its one of the two not
1.6
A few things I do know
1) It will be released at the same time as a updated EOS 3 type
film camera
and it will be CMOS based
2) The name EOS 3 is not nessesarily going to be used but the
camera will slot in between the 1D and the 10D in price and feature
set.

A few other little things ....updated 1D due around the same time
with possibly the worlds first interleaved CMOS processor.
10D focusing issue is considered by Canon Japan to be a non issue
(I agree)
Totaly new injet Photo printing system due to be released before
end of year with 4800x4800 dpi and 8 more then 6 colors(never heard
of this mbefore myself?).
A few other things ...
The Kodak 14n is a joke ...the samples they had were awful and they
knew it ...
The Olydak 4/3 is a E-20 with a grip and a detatchable lens
..nothing much to write home about
Sigma lenses are noisy ...really noisy even their HSM which is
supposed to be like USM sounded really loud.

The new Sinar digital backs are really really really nice ....

Nikon had absolutly nothing to report ...no word on any D1x/H
update (these things are now older then Rome in digital camera
years)

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Rune Moberg · May 4, 2003

Pixel Warp said:
... cure to all problems and it is just rumor, albeit prolly a
reliable one. Anyone remember all the same hype when the 10D was
just a rumor? There was a post about this just recently in fact.
This forum gets more insane by the minute.

I think most of us have anticipated a new digital EOS this fall. As it would make little sense to put the 10D to sleep this early, it seems reasonable that the new model would be more geared towards professionals.

As such, both timing (September) and the specs (1.3x or full frame and more than 6 MP) feels right and judging by the reaction here, meets customer demand.

I'm starting to put some money aside for this baby already!

(Good luck to you all!)

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Jon Ragnarsson · May 4, 2003

I assume that you will all be upgrading right away?

J.

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wacomme · May 4, 2003

With a new camera in the lineup, what will happen to the 10D? Will the price drop?

I'm wondering because I'm planning on purchasing the 10D in June. Now, do I wait and buy the 10D in September, or even forego the 10D and buy the new camera?

Thoughts? This is becoming worse than buying computers --- or I should say "better." New advancements and lower prices!

When do I step into the mix?

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Phil Nicholls · May 4, 2003

Not as far as I know, but does anyone know how long in advance they'll accept orders? I really need to be near the front of the queue for this one as a new arrival to the family should be here in October and this is an ideal way of justifying the purchase to the nearest and dearest. I'm quite prepared to drop them a grand or two as a deposit against a model with these specs.

Regards,

Phil

Adam-T · May 4, 2003

Thomas Gardner said:
Sigma's 15-30mm has an eight blade design for the purpose of out of
focus backgrounds. Go figure

Even the Junk 28-80s are 7 or 8-bladers ! - as far as I know the LEAST they used were SIX, only Canon seems to be unwilling to update it's lenses to modern times!

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Rune Moberg · May 4, 2003

Michael Chamberlin said:
I'm wondering because I'm planning on purchasing the 10D in June.
Now, do I wait and buy the 10D in September, or even forego the 10D
and buy the new camera?

This is a question only you can answer. What features do you really need to take the pictures you want to take? And how long can you be without a camera?

The longer you wait, the less you'll have to pay for the camera. But you won't get any pictures that way...

wacomme said:
When do I step into the mix?

As soon as you have enough green for a body and a good lens!

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Adam-T · May 4, 2003

A REAL EOS-3 based DSLR would NEVER take the BG-ED3

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DavidP #28649 · May 4, 2003

The EOS-3 had a vertical grip for it, too.

I don't know why it couldn't use the same grip as the other bodies, unless they just can't design a 1.3x chip inside a body that size.

If they're looking for upgraders, keeping BG-ED3 compatability would be a good thing.

Adam-T said:
A REAL EOS-3 based DSLR would NEVER take the BG-ED3

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DavidP #28649 · May 4, 2003

Not B&H.

Other dealers will start a waiting list, I'm sure. But probably only about a month before deliveries, if that early.

Phil Nicholls said:
Not as far as I know, but does anyone know how long in advance
they'll accept orders? I really need to be near the front of the
queue for this one as a new arrival to the family should be here in
October and this is an ideal way of justifying the purchase to the
nearest and dearest. I'm quite prepared to drop them a grand or two
as a deposit against a model with these specs.

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http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

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