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From Nikonrumors.com

The new Nikon D5200 will have slightly different specs than the D3200:
  • It will use the same 24MP DX-format CMOS sensor
  • EXPEED 3 processor (same as in the D3200)
  • ISO range: 100-6,400 (expandable up to 25,600, D3200 could go only up to 12,800)
  • 2,016 pixel RGB metering sensor (same as the D600, the D3200 had a 420 pixel RGB sensor)
  • Continuous shooting speed: 5fps (the D3200 could do only 4 fps)
  • Vari-angle LCD screen (3", 921k dots)



This is very close to D7000, including metering and fps rate. It's possible that the D7100 will have specs closer to what people would expect from a D400. And, possibly, a new AF system.
 
Looks like a normal iteration of the 5x00 series to me. I rather think it strengthens the probability of a normal iteration of the D7x00 series as well. Thus I expect only an improved 39 point AF and 6 fps.
 
JimPearce said:
JimPearce wrote:

Looks like a normal iteration of the 5x00 series to me. I rather think it strengthens the probability of a normal iteration of the D7x00 series as well. Thus I expect only an improved 39 point AF and 6 fps.
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I agree. I have a 5100 and don't see any big improvement. If the 24mp sensor is the same as the 3200 and the AF module is the same as the one in the 5100, then I'm content with the 5100 and see no reason to believe that the d7100 would have big improvements rather than incremental improvements like Jim points out.

Kerry
 
I really dont see why Nikon needs a 3200 + 5200 + 7000 all traditional bodies.

I would have thought a 5200 entry level for DSLR traditional AND mirrorless D3200 entry level, plus D7000 advanced + D300 iteraiton pro level would have made more sense.

That way, the 3200M would be smaller, but APS-C which is a larger sensor than many mirrorless, with the F Mount. And all market segments catered to.



But, Nikon knows better than I what their sales and market is.
 
But I wouldn't bet on a DSLR update to the D3200. Thom is thinking 2014 for a mirrorless F-mount DX entry level camera, but I think it might happen in 2013. As he rightly points out, the mirrorless pressure is on the bottom of the DX market, even if sales of entry level DX cameras are not shrinking (as yet). And there is very little evidence to indicate that DX DSLRs are suffering any serious erosion from "above" - meaning FX.
 
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Well, the alleged 5200 ...with the added wt. & $ of a swinging lcd...not likely to get my interest. And hopefully as the better units ahead...71 or 400...the IQ and AF also improve , as they should. Meanwhile, enjoy the high interest rates you get on your savings at the local bank...lol.
 
Also repeated in abbreviated form on Nikon Rumors.


http://photographylife.com/nikon-d400-announcement-this-fall
  • Sensor: 24.2 MP DX CMOS, 3.82µ pixel pitch (same as on the D3200)
  • Sensor Size: 23.2 x 15.4mm
  • Resolution: 6,016 × 4,000
  • Native ISO Sensitivity: 100-6,400
  • Boost Low ISO Sensitivity: 50
  • Boost High ISO Sensitivity: 12,800-25,600
  • Processor: EXPEED 3
  • Metering System: 3D Color Matrix Meter III with face recognition and a database of 30,000 images
  • Dust Reduction: Yes
  • Weather Sealing/Protection: Yes
  • Body Build: Full Magnesium Alloy
  • White Balance: New White Balance System
  • Shutter: Up to 1/8000 and 30 sec exposure
  • Shutter Durability: 200,000 cycles, self-diagnostic shutter
  • Camera Lag: 0.012 seconds
  • Storage: 1x CF slot and 1x SD slot
  • Viewfinder Coverage: 100%
  • Viewfinder Magnification: 0.94x Approx.
  • Speed: 8 FPS, 9 FPS with optional battery pack and Nikon D4 or alkaline batteries
It all seems very plausible now, doesn't it? My guess is the extra time between this and the D3200 is partly accounted for by the 8fps, double the bandwidth. Don't know what's going on with those viewfinder specs, though.
 
seahawk said:
seahawk wrote:

This coudl very well be a D7X00 as well.
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Or a Flying Chicken. It has a CF and an SD slot. Baby of a D600. Er, offspring of a D7000? Why in hades does it ressurect a CF slot ??? Its a Rocket! No its a plane! No its a whatever-you-fancy-the-name-of-a-d300-succesor will be called!


JC
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n057 wrote:
n057 said:
n057 said:
seahawk wrote:

This coudl very well be a D7X00 as well.
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Or a Flying Chicken. It has a CF and an SD slot. Baby of a D600.Er, offspring of a D7000? Why in hades does it ressurect a CF slot ???
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For the ostensible reason why all the legacy D200/D300/D2x users have CF cards. They will probably lift the dual card slot mechanism straight from the D800.
 
I do not see any approach to the D7x00 line. The new technologies are not the definition of the lines or categories. D5x00 body is the same, small viewfinder with pentamirror, small body, little on-body controllers, ....
 
stuntmonkey said:
stuntmonkey wrote:
n057 wrote:
stuntmonkey said:
stuntmonkey said:
seahawk wrote:

This coudl very well be a D7X00 as well.
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Or a Flying Chicken. It has a CF and an SD slot. Baby of a D600.Er, offspring of a D7000? Why in hades does it ressurect a CF slot ???
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For the ostensible reason why all the legacy D200/D300/D2x users have CF cards. They will probably lift the dual card slot mechanism straight from the D800.
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How about assuming that the dual card slot mechanism will be lifted from the D300s? That would be one more feature lifted from the D300s and seahawk still wants it to be a 7X00?



JC
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D300s-like body: CF+SD

D7000-like body: dual SD

And D7000 has one total fatal problem: exposure bracketing only -1EV ... 0 EV ... +1EV.

D300 has: -4EV ... -3EV ... +4EV, 9 shots, which can be combinated with fast framerate:

it is very, very importaint for HighDR RAW shots!!!! D4 and D800 have no HighDR doubleexposure RAW, only JPEG. High end DX camera without the possibility to make HighDR RAW doubleexposure would be tragedy. How can you make landscape photos with the sun in the image?? Or you can do it only in the winter with snow.
 
CF cards are what i have and refuse to get sd cards so nikon better keep them in the neww d400. Hence don't want to see D7000 merge with D300s at the lost of the CF card
 
n057 said:
n057 wrote:
n057 said:
stuntmonkey wrote:
n057 wrote:
n057 said:
n057 said:
seahawk wrote:

This coudl very well be a D7X00 as well.
Click to expand...
Or a Flying Chicken. It has a CF and an SD slot. Baby of a D600.Er, offspring of a D7000? Why in hades does it ressurect a CF slot ???
Click to expand...
For the ostensible reason why all the legacy D200/D300/D2x users have CF cards. They will probably lift the dual card slot mechanism straight from the D800.
Click to expand...
How about assuming that the dual card slot mechanism will be lifted from the D300s? That would be one more feature lifted from the D300s and seahawk still wants it to be a 7X00?
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The 'dual card slot mechanism' is built into the EXPEED, aka Fujitsu Milbeaut, hence Fujitsu offers the next gen chip with multiple card interfaces, Nikon builds in the multiple card interfaces. The CF is just the ATA bus, the SD has its own interface and the latest Milbeauts have a couple. hence it suddenly becomes easy for Nikon to offer dual SD's, and the SD socket is substantially cheaper than the CF one. So, the interface is just the same. EXPEED 2 had an ATA bus and SD card interface, EXPEED 2 has an ATA bus and two SD interfaces. Given that the 'D400', were it ever to exist, would use the EXPEED 3, presumably it would be lifting it from the D800, not the D300s.

It's a cost and packaging decision, whether they give it 2 SD's or an SD and CF. They could if they wanted give it a CF and 2 SD's, but I can't see that happening.

The big advantages of SD's is that the mechanical interface is much more robust (no tiny pins to get bent), it is more compact thus easier to integrate and seal, and the cards tend to be cheaper and more reliable.
 
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Nikon better have some other things up their sleeves than those things that are rumored at the moment. Just a way to push the ISO higher and a better metering isn't much extra compared to the D3200. The sensor could be better in high ISO or they may have great better algroitme, but so far I don't see any reason to go for the D5200 compared to the D3200: http://www.photospots.dk/2012/11/nikon-d3200-vs-nikon-d5200-based-on.html
 
photospots said:
photospots wrote:

Nikon better have some other things up their sleeves than those things that are rumored at the moment. Just a way to push the ISO higher and a better metering isn't much extra compared to the D3200. The sensor could be better in high ISO or they may have great better algroitme, but so far I don't see any reason to go for the D5200 compared to the D3200: http://www.photospots.dk/2012/11/nikon-d3200-vs-nikon-d5200-based-on.html
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I would think that Nikon is in control of that, they are generally good a grading the specs as they go up the range. When they loaded the D3200, they would have had a view what that would mean for the specs of the D5200 and D7100, there is a knock on effect. I would think they will all have the same sensor (or maybe the D5200 and D7100 will get the Sony 24MP, which might have a little more FPS capability) but they might put the headline ISO specs different, in the end they have absolutely no relation to sensor capability these days. Things that they can put in that might not make it through to the rumours would be prism VF, second control wheel and 39 point AF system. In a way, where they have to be looking is the Canon 650D which itself doesn't offer a great deal more than the D5100, or the 60D which is where adding those extras would take it.
 
rhlpetrus said:
rhlpetrus wrote:

From Nikonrumors.com

The new Nikon D5200 will have slightly different specs than the D3200:
  • It will use the same 24MP DX-format CMOS sensor
  • EXPEED 3 processor (same as in the D3200)
  • ISO range: 100-6,400 (expandable up to 25,600, D3200 could go only up to 12,800)
  • 2,016 pixel RGB metering sensor (same as the D600, the D3200 had a 420 pixel RGB sensor)
  • Continuous shooting speed: 5fps (the D3200 could do only 4 fps)
  • Vari-angle LCD screen (3", 921k dots)
This is very close to D7000, including metering and fps rate. It's possible that the D7100 will have specs closer to what people would expect from a D400. And, possibly, a new AF system.
Click to expand...
 
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