William Jasper
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http://www.matrox.com
Have an old G400 on 1 machine and Parhelia on another.
Ordered Parhelia over phone day it was released and had it the next morning.
Excellent service and a great online tech forum for help if & when needed
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Graphic Cards...any preferences for Photoshop?
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Have an old G400 on 1 machine and Parhelia on another.
Ordered Parhelia over phone day it was released and had it the next morning.
Excellent service and a great online tech forum for help if & when needed
Dave Deacon
Senior Member
I had one of those and did not like it. I tried a few and they were all the same - slightly fuzzy and unstable. Also, for online games, there were always issues. I changed to a Creative GF2 card. The picture quality was much better as was the gaming. I now use an MSI GF4600 in an Asus A7N8X Deluxe (Nvidia NForce2 chipset). The picture quality is better than the GF2 and gaming is too.
I would take a look at Nvidia and ATi too. They might be better than you think for graphics and would offer other options too.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=570619
I would take a look at Nvidia and ATi too. They might be better than you think for graphics and would offer other options too.
--Maybe it's time I upgraded mine too - I'd stick with Matrox as
they've had top notch image quality ever since the original PCI
Millennium
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Pamela Carrington
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Pamela,
I'm using the lowly nVidia GeForce 2 MX 200. It was just something that came with this computer outfit, and at the time I wasn't sure what was considered to be good for photoshop work and photo display, so I just let it go, figuring I can always upgrade.
I'm using this with a Mitsubishi Diamond View 17 inch monitor (another cheapie, but I like them - so much so that I am considering replacing mine with a 19 inch version of the same), and like I said - the Spyder seemed to like them, too!
Regards,
Rudi
http://www.rudiphoto.net/
I'm using the lowly nVidia GeForce 2 MX 200. It was just something that came with this computer outfit, and at the time I wasn't sure what was considered to be good for photoshop work and photo display, so I just let it go, figuring I can always upgrade.
I'm using this with a Mitsubishi Diamond View 17 inch monitor (another cheapie, but I like them - so much so that I am considering replacing mine with a 19 inch version of the same), and like I said - the Spyder seemed to like them, too!
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Regards,
Rudi
http://www.rudiphoto.net/
... it's not something that I have looked into yet...
Regards,
Rudi
http://www.rudiphoto.net/
--I'm using the lowly nVidia GeForce 2 MX 200. It was just something
that came with this computer outfit, and at the time I wasn't sure
what was considered to be good for photoshop work and photo
display, so I just let it go, figuring I can always upgrade.
I'm using this with a Mitsubishi Diamond View 17 inch monitor
(another cheapie, but I like them - so much so that I am
considering replacing mine with a 19 inch version of the same), and
like I said - the Spyder seemed to like them, too!
--
Regards,
Rudi
http://www.rudiphoto.net/
Regards,
Rudi
http://www.rudiphoto.net/
Pamela Carrington
Forum Enthusiast
Thanks for this information...I will be doing my homework before making a purchase.
Calvin Chann
Senior Member
Hi Pamela
Conventional wisdom is that nVidia is great for 3D graphics such as for playing games etc, but that Matrox has the edge in 2D stuff, which PS is.
HTH
Calvin
I don't mean to offend, but if you are offended, then maybe you're too sensitive or I've overdone it.
Conventional wisdom is that nVidia is great for 3D graphics such as for playing games etc, but that Matrox has the edge in 2D stuff, which PS is.
HTH
Calvin
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Calvin Chann
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I had a Millenium II with a whole 8Mb of RAM. I think it was in a 486DX2-66 box.
But as my current home PC was set up as more of a games PC than anything else, it has a GeForce4 4600 card in it. But I agree, for 2D stuff, Matrox has always been the better bet.
I don't mean to offend, but if you are offended, then maybe you're too sensitive or I've overdone it.
But as my current home PC was set up as more of a games PC than anything else, it has a GeForce4 4600 card in it. But I agree, for 2D stuff, Matrox has always been the better bet.
--Maybe it's time I upgraded mine too - I'd stick with Matrox as
they've had top notch image quality ever since the original PCI
Millennium
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I don't mean to offend, but if you are offended, then maybe you're too sensitive or I've overdone it.
Rune Moberg
Senior Member
Jason Van Patten
Member
Are you sure about that Phil? I'm a big fan of my Matrox G400/Iiyama Pro510 combo here at home; I'm considering upgrading to a G550/Pro512 for the 2048x1536 res. From my experience, if Iiyama says they'll support resolution X x Y, they do. Is this not the case?
I've also come across a couple of higher-end Mitsu 22" monitors that support 2046x1536 (supposedly.) Again, do you think this isn't the case in reality?
Thanks!
jas
Adam-T
Forum Pro
the 3D facilities on that incredibly powerful and expensive card have no relevance to Photoshop or any other photo package I can think of ..
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Isaac Sibson
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... is probably quite happy to spend loads on the latest, fastest graphics card, but balks at the idea of spending anything on getting a decent monitor to display the output on, and then wonders what people are talking about when they compare the image output quality of different cards because his old monitor is too poor to see any difference...
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Adam-T
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With my old dated G400 and fancy Trinitron 21" -
I'd like one of those new parfocalia (or whatever) Matrox cards, but unless the image quality is better than the G400 , I won't bother as I certainly don't need a card with 128Mb of RAM on it or the ability to do 120 Fps in "Austin Powers 3D" ;-) LOL ...
How is that new card Isaac, for Photo work of course ? - no wonder you could only afford a used D30 instead of a D60 if it costs as much as the other new cards!
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I'd like one of those new parfocalia (or whatever) Matrox cards, but unless the image quality is better than the G400 , I won't bother as I certainly don't need a card with 128Mb of RAM on it or the ability to do 120 Fps in "Austin Powers 3D" ;-) LOL ...
How is that new card Isaac, for Photo work of course ? - no wonder you could only afford a used D30 instead of a D60 if it costs as much as the other new cards!
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Sadja Herzog
Senior Member
I tried the Parhelia and an ATI on my P4 2G box. The Parhelia crashed my system and would not boot regardless of what I tried. May have been a bad sample, but read the many threads describing similar problems. The ATI would not sync up the 2nd monitor (both Trinitrons). In the end I gave up.
I settled on the Tab key to turn on/off menus and keyboard shortcuts, where available, to select tools, and saved about $350.
I settled on the Tab key to turn on/off menus and keyboard shortcuts, where available, to select tools, and saved about $350.
Rune Moberg
Senior Member
For photoediting/2D, it's probably a very decent quality/price ratio.
The image quality is supposedly better than the ageing G400 card. I suspect you're better off with the old (!) G400 card compared to many (most, if not all) NVidia based cards, but Matrox did state when they kicked off the Parhelia that they had improved the signal quality. Of course, as the Parhelia supports higher resolutions, the quality must be top notch and the difference is probably not measurable between the G400 and Parhelia in "lower" resolutions (the ones that the G400 supports).
Anandtech was supposed to do a image quality comparison ( http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1645&p=17 ), but never got around to it I think. (perhaps someone beat them to it?)
(FWIW: I'm a NVidia user and gamer myself... ;-) )
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Isaac Sibson
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Sounds sensible to me. I had my 21" sony and 19" Adi screens when the machine I was running them off was a K6-2 366 with Nvidia TNT 2 and Diamond Fire graphics cards.
Parhelia. They're not desperately fast in 3d... around the same speed as a GF3Ti500. What they bring to the party is 10bit per colour ramdacs (vs 8 on older and Nvidia cards) at 400MHz (support up to 2048x1536@85Hz) for both screens. The ultimate 2d card really. It also hardware accelerates anti-aliasing for fonts under windows XP.
I've not got one, as much as I'd like one. I have Nvidia GF3Ti200, Diamond Fire GL1000 Pro and Appian Jeronimo Pro 2P cards in my main machine (which leaves me with a spare output. The Appian's output quality isn't good enough for the 19", so I keep the Diamond), GF2MX in my second machine and Matrox Millenium II in my third machine (these other machines share the 21" through a high-quality Belkin SOHO KVM switch). The reason I have had various NVidia cards is that in the past gaming has been important to me, but I haven't played much of anything for a couple of years now, so Parhelia will probably be my next card...
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Bob Graham rvg
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I believe the Matrox and Ati cards are quite quiet. However, if you end up looking at an nVidia based card, some of them have very noisy fans. I use an MSI nVidia ti4600 card, which supports dual monitor beautifully, but is really loud. If I had shopped more I would have bought the same chipset, but from a different maker. http://www.tomshardware.com has good comparisons between cards with like processors, and cards with different processors.
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