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Will F said:
No it was mine maybe too harsh of term but it was just to make the
point that "C1" not myself has decided that 1D & 1Ds owners will
have to pay $500 not $99 to use their program. I posted this idea
somewhere else and the argument was "pros with these types of
cameras" should pay the $500. Not all people using these cameras
are "pros". Just asking for an LE version for 1D & 1Ds users and a
full version for the others to be available. I backup with a D30
and have sold 100's of pics with it.
Have I gotten it right yet???
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Now I undersand... I thought what you were saying was quite the opposite. We actually agree.
Mark

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for a comparison as 1.20 doesn't work with the 10D .. but C1 is looking very good indeed for releasing detail.

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Don,

YP doesn't currently support 10D RAW files because they don't have the new SDK from Canon USA yet. That's why YP is eroring all over the place. BreezeBrowser 2.6 does support 10D RAW files. My understanding is that Chris Breeze doesn't yet have the new Canon SDK either. But somehow he added 10D Raw support. Also, Canon's File Viewer Utility deliver's the same result as BreezeBrowser.

You can also download BB ( http://breezesys.com/BreezeBrowser/index.html ) and run it in trial mode. Your only limitation is in the number of images it will handle, 12. I know you wrote that you believe me, but there is something about gaining your own experience for it to really sink in.
Don Lashier said:
  • DL
Daniel Lauring said:
Danny
Mike Greer said:
I tried them all. Linear, Film Standard, and Film Extra Shadow. No
go. If you try it, you'll see the difference, and it's not subtle.
This does not dampen my excitement over the program though. It just
means I won't use it to convert the small percentage of images
that fit in this category.
Don Lashier said:
  • DL
Mike Greer said:
Don,

I'm more than willing to believe you. But in the test shot I show
in a post below, I can't get C1LE to recover the blown highlights.
The exposure, levels, and curves adjustments I've attempted don't
get it back. However BreezeBrowser recovers it quite easily at
-2EV. So please, download the RAW file and recover the highlights
in C1LE. Then let me know the secret.
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If the $99 version supported the 1D, I'd have already bought it, too.

$499 is another story, though.

I can only hope that they'll eventually reconsider this decision.

Then again, if they don't, they've saved me $99. ;)
John Mankos said:
I agree....

I've been shooting JPEG's since I got the 10D since Yarcplus hasnt'
been updated yet.

I downloaded C1 LE last night, shot a few Raw's.....all I can say
is WOW

(sigh) Oh well....it's only money.
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DavidP said:
If the $99 version supported the 1D, I'd have already bought it, too.
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I agree. I could live with the limitations of LE if only it had 1D support. I was really hoping that they would include the 1D in the LE version to save me $300. Now, I don't know if I will buy the full version or not. I do kknow that since my demo period ran out (last night) i have had the shakes. The added detail in my 1D shots was quite addicting. :-)

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I know there are several of us that feel this way, and probably a lot more who haven't chimed in.

I wonder if a few "non-whiney" emails stating the desire to include the 1D and 1Ds in the Lite version would do any good?

Another thing that might help persuade them: their pro version has apparently been hacked. Some "misguided soul" anonymously sent me what appears to be a hack that will allow the demo version to run indefinitely. I say "appears to be", because I haven't installed it, and have no intentions of doing so.

I'm a bit surprised that such a niche product has been hacked.

If something like this gets out, it could be a real problem for them. Having a much more affordable Lite version would, IMO, go a long way to reducing such piracy.
Pixel Warp said:
I agree. I could live with the limitations of LE if only it had 1D
support. I was really hoping that they would include the 1D in the
LE version to save me $300. Now, I don't know if I will buy the
full version or not. I do kknow that since my demo period ran out
(last night) i have had the shakes. The added detail in my 1D shots
was quite addicting. :-)
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Pixel Warp said:
DavidP said:
If the $99 version supported the 1D, I'd have already bought it, too.
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I agree. I could live with the limitations of LE if only it had 1D
support. I was really hoping that they would include the 1D in the
LE version to save me $300. Now, I don't know if I will buy the
full version or not. I do kknow that since my demo period ran out
(last night) i have had the shakes. The added detail in my 1D shots
was quite addicting. :-)

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I upgraded from BB 2.6 to 2.6a and since then am having problems with linear output. It comes out looking like normal or combined. :(

To get linear output I have to reselect linear and it works... for one time.

Anyone else having this problem?

Thanks,
Mike Greer said:
Don,

YP doesn't currently support 10D RAW files because they don't have
the new SDK from Canon USA yet. That's why YP is eroring all over
the place. BreezeBrowser 2.6 does support 10D RAW files. My
understanding is that Chris Breeze doesn't yet have the new Canon
SDK either. But somehow he added 10D Raw support. Also, Canon's
File Viewer Utility deliver's the same result as BreezeBrowser.

You can also download BB
( http://breezesys.com/BreezeBrowser/index.html ) and run it in trial
mode. Your only limitation is in the number of images it will
handle, 12. I know you wrote that you believe me, but there is
something about gaining your own experience for it to really sink
in.
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Don Lashier said:
I wouldn't hold my breath as I don't believe they've announced any
plans or intent for a Mac version.
  • DL
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As they do have a MAC version for Capture one DSLR so one would think they would make one for the LE version as well.
Dave

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10D, S30
Sigma 15-30
Canon 24-85
Sigma 28, 1.8
Canon 50, 1.8
Canon 85 1.8
Canon 70-200 2.8L
Sigma 50-500
 
If you own a 1D or 1Ds or a Mac, you are obviously a pro (and rich), and should therefore buy the full version. ;)
DGSmithMD said:
As they do have a MAC version for Capture one DSLR so one would
think they would make one for the LE version as well.
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DavidP said:
I wonder if a few "non-whiney" emails stating the desire to include
the 1D and 1Ds in the Lite version would do any good?

Another thing that might help persuade them: their pro version has
apparently been hacked. Some "misguided soul" anonymously sent me
what appears to be a hack that will allow the demo version to run
indefinitely. I say "appears to be", because I haven't installed
it, and have no intentions of doing so.

I'm a bit surprised that such a niche product has been hacked.

If something like this gets out, it could be a real problem for
them. Having a much more affordable Lite version would, IMO, go a
long way to reducing such piracy.
Pixel Warp said:
I agree. I could live with the limitations of LE if only it had 1D
support. I was really hoping that they would include the 1D in the
LE version to save me $300. Now, I don't know if I will buy the
full version or not. I do kknow that since my demo period ran out
(last night) i have had the shakes. The added detail in my 1D shots
was quite addicting. :-)
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The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise
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  • Chris
http://www.pbase.com/chris_parrish
 
Adam-T said:
and somehow fitted a 1DS one !!!!!!!!!!! ..

That's the impression I get after using Capture-One LE after the
canon one or JPG Fine!. ......

I've got some things to work out such as making the most of the
Levels and curves but even doing a linear conversion and 60 to 75%
sharpening and sorting the levels etc in PS7 it's a totally
different camera ! ..
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Adam:

That's an interesting way to put it. That goes a long way to say that these folks know a thing or two about de-Bayerizing and de-AA algorithms.

You are correct... I was looking at my framed pictures... and I have to redo them all.

John
Adam-T said:
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DavidP said:
I know there are several of us that feel this way, and probably a
lot more who haven't chimed in.

I wonder if a few "non-whiney" emails stating the desire to include
the 1D and 1Ds in the Lite version would do any good?

Another thing that might help persuade them: their pro version has
apparently been hacked. Some "misguided soul" anonymously sent me
what appears to be a hack that will allow the demo version to run
indefinitely. I say "appears to be", because I haven't installed
it, and have no intentions of doing so.

I'm a bit surprised that such a niche product has been hacked.

If something like this gets out, it could be a real problem for
them. Having a much more affordable Lite version would, IMO, go a
long way to reducing such piracy.
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That is true. Software price points are a complex thing though. They have to see if the additional market share AND customer service headaches due to a larger (mostly inept) audience is worth to them.

They are now competing w/ LE at the same price w/ Adobe's ACR until Adobe releases PS8 (which will include ACR). After that C1 sales will be strictly from users who value the extra quality C1 offers.

John
DavidP #28649 said:
Pixel Warp said:
I agree. I could live with the limitations of LE if only it had 1D
support. I was really hoping that they would include the 1D in the
LE version to save me $300. Now, I don't know if I will buy the
full version or not. I do kknow that since my demo period ran out
(last night) i have had the shakes. The added detail in my 1D shots
was quite addicting. :-)
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I too am being converted. I'll probably fork over the $$$ this weekend for the LE version. Between C1 LE and some extra work in PS on removing color casts, I am very impressed.

At first I was not inclined to make the jump. But some images I processed on my wife's laptop and then finished with on my desktop in PS and the prints are stunning.

Once I learn how to work C1 LE completely, I'll probably move away from PS except for sizing and possibly color cast removal.

Take care,
John Davis said:
Adam-T said:
and somehow fitted a 1DS one !!!!!!!!!!! ..

That's the impression I get after using Capture-One LE after the
canon one or JPG Fine!. ......

I've got some things to work out such as making the most of the
Levels and curves but even doing a linear conversion and 60 to 75%
sharpening and sorting the levels etc in PS7 it's a totally
different camera ! ..
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Adam:

That's an interesting way to put it. That goes a long way to say
that these folks know a thing or two about de-Bayerizing and de-AA
algorithms.

You are correct... I was looking at my framed pictures... and I
have to redo them all.

John
John Davis said:
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TonyK
 
John Davis said:
You are correct... I was looking at my framed pictures... and I
have to redo them all.
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I KNOW the feeling ;-) ..

these are 100% crops straight out of C1 PS7 was just used for cropping, I didn't go too heavily on the sharpening - from the 100 Macro - I'm obviously just learning the package so bear with me but I'm seeing good detail without "Oversharpening" which results from using the canon converter and piling on USM





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Exactly...

Also... with C1 LE's excellent Levels/Curves/Cropping tools... one can go directly from it to QImage for printing... bypassing PS entirely. I'm not advocating that PS does not have its uses... of course it does, but this is the first tool that can bypass it in many cases.

John
Adam-T said:
Adam-T said:
You are correct... I was looking at my framed pictures... and I
have to redo them all.
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I KNOW the feeling ;-) ..

these are 100% crops straight out of C1 PS7 was just used for
cropping, I didn't go too heavily on the sharpening - from the 100
Macro - I'm obviously just learning the package so bear with me but
I'm seeing good detail without "Oversharpening" which results from
using the canon converter and piling on USM





--
Please ignore the Typos, I'm the world's worst Typist

My Ugly mug and submitted Photos at -------->
http://www.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=27855

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Disgusting I hate those ;-)
Adam-T said:
Adam-T said:
You are correct... I was looking at my framed pictures... and I
have to redo them all.
Click to expand...
I KNOW the feeling ;-) ..

these are 100% crops straight out of C1 PS7 was just used for
cropping, I didn't go too heavily on the sharpening - from the 100
Macro - I'm obviously just learning the package so bear with me but
I'm seeing good detail without "Oversharpening" which results from
using the canon converter and piling on USM





--
Please ignore the Typos, I'm the world's worst Typist

My Ugly mug and submitted Photos at -------->
http://www.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=27855

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Maybe this is old hat for folks that have used Capture 1 for awhile but can someone actually take me through the basic steps of correcting for white and color balance using this tool?
John Davis said:
I just put the new Capture 1 LE (C1-LE) through its paces,
converting D60 and 10D images. The new product was made available
today w/ a free 15-day trial period.

C1-LE is hands down the best RAW converter for Canon RAW files. Its
output is sharp, noise-free, detailed and with a wonderful tonality.

John

P.S. - With the risk of again being labeled elitist (for the
record: I do not care) I'm afraid many in this forum may consider
their conversions for thw 10D AND the D60 pale and lacking
saturation. Not so! They are accurate! Lovers of the standard
(non-corrected) D60 output should stay w/ the Canon converter
without any corrective profiling.
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John Davis said:
Also... with C1 LE's excellent Levels/Curves/Cropping tools... one
can go directly from it to QImage for printing...
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Definately, What I'm seeing now from the 10D is far closer to what I see from a 1DS - natural looking images without the overdone edge enhancement USM brings on JPG or Canon RAW images , hard to explain but although those two examples may not look "Text book razor sharp" like a USM image does, they certainly look closer to reality .. I'd love to see a 1DS image processed by this software!. ..

I really don't want to seem pompus here but now that the converter is available at $99, I foresee a lot of posts here complaining about and slamming it from people unwilling to learn it as it will end up in more hands than the full version - Rather like the 10D really in a way.. Lets just hope that people download the trial and get to learn it before posting or slamming - I think their photos will benefit :)

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