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Although your D100/ D1x are pretty unintelligent cameras* but they are very consistent with the strategic Nikon’s vision** The real problem is not with a lack of capacities within those digital technologies but with devastating capacity of the pop-photographers to understand what they REAL deal with.

It is not secret that most of the “digital photographers” are underqualified and have a very little understanding/feeling about the “culture of imagery”. Therefore, I would call whoever who grasps a photographic language, the photographic expressive methods and the photographic tools a little deeper then a “war of the consumer reports” to filter out the great amount of the BS that you might read at the Internet Forums. Yes, the "composite awareness" that explores the D-photography is good thing and useful but at the level I can observe here I’m not quite sure if it is beneficial FOR THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE LONG RUN.

Yes, the contemporary cameras built to force a photographer to fight with the design's engineering limitations instead of to be concentrated on the super-purpose of a frame. This is bad but.... still I feel that the global moranization of THE PHOTOGRAPHERS AS THE INDIVIDUALS are the major limitation of your D1x, D100 and the rest of the D-cameras. Would this message be delivered to us by means of analog or digital photography is totally irrelevant.

Regards,
Romy the Cat
  • and it is NOT because Canon, Fuji, Kodak, Contax or others are “better”: the competitors are in the same level of the unfortunate photographic “intelligence”
The Nikon, which did not produce any REAL intelligent camera sine... I would say... FM2
 
Romy the Cat said:
It is not secret that most of the “digital photographers” are
underqualified and have a very little understanding/feeling about
the “culture of imagery”.
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Sure buddy. Whatever you say.
Romy the Cat said:
still I feel that the global moranization of THE PHOTOGRAPHERS AS
THE INDIVIDUALS are the major limitation of your D1x, D100 and the
rest of the D-cameras.
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Does anyone have a secret decoder ring?

-T
 
Romy the Cat said:
Although your D100/ D1x are pretty unintelligent cameras* but they
are very consistent with the strategic Nikon’s vision** The real
problem is not with a lack of capacities within those digital
technologies but with devastating capacity of the pop-photographers
to understand what they REAL deal with.

It is not secret that most of the “digital photographers” are
underqualified and have a very little understanding/feeling about
the “culture of imagery”. Therefore, I would call whoever who
grasps a photographic language, the photographic expressive methods
and the photographic tools a little deeper then a “war of the
consumer reports” to filter out the great amount of the BS that you
might read at the Internet Forums. Yes, the "composite awareness"
that explores the D-photography is good thing and useful but at
the level I can observe here I’m not quite sure if it is beneficial
FOR THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE LONG RUN.

Yes, the contemporary cameras built to force a photographer to
fight with the design's engineering limitations instead of to be
concentrated on the super-purpose of a frame. This is bad but....
still I feel that the global moranization of THE PHOTOGRAPHERS AS
THE INDIVIDUALS are the major limitation of your D1x, D100 and the
rest of the D-cameras. Would this message be delivered to us by
means of analog or digital photography is totally irrelevant.

Regards,
Romy the Cat
  • and it is NOT because Canon, Fuji, Kodak, Contax or others are
“better”: the competitors are in the same level of the unfortunate
photographic “intelligence”

The Nikon, which did not produce any REAL intelligent camera
sine... I would say... FM2
Click to expand...
--
Yves P.

http://www.pbase.com/kafrifelle
and
http://www.pbase.com/yves_p
 
TomGallo said:
TomGallo (AKA RacerX) said:
It is not secret that most of the “digital photographers” are
underqualified and have a very little understanding/feeling about
the “culture of imagery”.
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Sure buddy. Whatever you say.
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I hope you indented that my generalization did not propose that each individual who do digital is a Moron. Rather it was a “soft” suggestion that in the "digital word" there is "suddenly" a mach larger amount of the individuals who put themselves in the position of expressing the “reference opinions”… if you know what I mean.

The Cat
 
Romy the Cat said:
TomGallo said:
Romy the Cat said:
It is not secret that most of the “digital photographers” are
underqualified and have a very little understanding/feeling about
the “culture of imagery”.
Click to expand...
Sure buddy. Whatever you say.
Click to expand...
I hope you indented that my generalization did not propose that
each individual who do digital is a Moron. Rather it was a “soft”
suggestion that in the "digital word" there is "suddenly" a mach
larger amount of the individuals who put themselves in the position
of expressing the “reference opinions”… if you know what I mean.

The Cat
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--
Regards
Gabriele Sartori
 
I must admit that alot of information in this forum is over my head due to the knowledge that others have gained and upon my questioning they are most generous to explain and help me to learn......however for once I think that I am beyond the topic...........YES, a group hug is in order........

--
Best Regards. Jimmy
 
But I'm not sure, due to the authors strange, rambling digital style of writing.

LOL!

---It's always a good day when I am taking pictures................
 
........and globalaly moranized CAT. I expected more from you considering your catchy screen name. BTW are you starting your own subset of buzz words for 2003? I get it..... pretty hip you must be in marketing.

Thanks ( I feel so stupid now)

Dan
http://www.pbase.com/dan2516/root
 
Romy the Cat said:
I hope you indented that my generalization did not propose that
each individual who do digital is a Moron. Rather it was a “soft”
suggestion that in the "digital word" there is "suddenly" a mach
larger amount of the individuals who put themselves in the position
of expressing the “reference opinions”… if you know what I mean.
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Now THIS I can understand.

I think it IS generally true that as technology that used to be available only to more skilled professionals that there will be more people who THINK they know what they're talking about. I also observe that there also becomes more people who can't or won't take advice from people who really do know what they're talking about.

I'm not willing to go so far as to say that this is endemic in this forum, however.
 
I don't think he mean "Consumer Reports" as in the magazine.
Anthony Medici said:
My images from my digital cameras stand for
themselves. (And I never liked the skewed reporting of consumers
report anyway.)
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I think the biggest problem in this forum is that it's often forgotten that it's the photographer , not the camera that makes the images. Too much p*ssing and moaning about how this brand is better than that or this camera doesn't have some feature.

And I've seen the same thing happen over and over again. We could easily be talking about manual focus vs. autofocus cameras or film formats. Same old discussions and disagreements about the same basic issues.

It would do all of us well to take a deep breath and remember that it's not about whether Nikon is doing this or that (or not) or whether a camera has this or that feature. It's about using the tools you have to produce the best work you can.

I can assure anyone who asks, that getting some or other whiz bang camera will not improve the images produced. It might make it easier

and more convienient, but it won't necessarily follow that better images will be made.
 
Romy the Cat said:
Although your D100/ D1x are pretty unintelligent cameras* but they
are very consistent with the strategic Nikon’s vision** The real
problem is not with a lack of capacities within those digital
technologies but with devastating capacity of the pop-photographers
to understand what they REAL deal with.

It is not secret that most of the “digital photographers” are
underqualified and have a very little understanding/feeling about
the “culture of imagery”. Therefore, I would call whoever who
grasps a photographic language, the photographic expressive methods
and the photographic tools a little deeper then a “war of the
consumer reports” to filter out the great amount of the BS that you
might read at the Internet Forums. Yes, the "composite awareness"
that explores the D-photography is good thing and useful but at
the level I can observe here I’m not quite sure if it is beneficial
FOR THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE LONG RUN.

Yes, the contemporary cameras built to force a photographer to
fight with the design's engineering limitations instead of to be
concentrated on the super-purpose of a frame. This is bad but....
still I feel that the global moranization of THE PHOTOGRAPHERS AS
THE INDIVIDUALS are the major limitation of your D1x, D100 and the
rest of the D-cameras. Would this message be delivered to us by
means of analog or digital photography is totally irrelevant.

Regards,
Romy the Cat
  • and it is NOT because Canon, Fuji, Kodak, Contax or others are
“better”: the competitors are in the same level of the unfortunate
photographic “intelligence”

The Nikon, which did not produce any REAL intelligent camera
sine... I would say... FM2
Click to expand...
--

'He who works his land will have abundant food, but he who chases fantasies will have his fill of poverty.' -- King Solomon
 
Maybe it really is a cat. You heard about that talking carp in the Northeast. The one that started speaking in Hebrew before they bashed its head in. Maybe this really is a sign of the end times. All the animals are starting to talk now and their obviously making more sense than humans!

G
Pete Perry said:
Romy the Cat said:
Although your D100/ D1x are pretty unintelligent cameras* but they
are very consistent with the strategic Nikon’s vision** The real
problem is not with a lack of capacities within those digital
technologies but with devastating capacity of the pop-photographers
to understand what they REAL deal with.

It is not secret that most of the “digital photographers” are
underqualified and have a very little understanding/feeling about
the “culture of imagery”. Therefore, I would call whoever who
grasps a photographic language, the photographic expressive methods
and the photographic tools a little deeper then a “war of the
consumer reports” to filter out the great amount of the BS that you
might read at the Internet Forums. Yes, the "composite awareness"
that explores the D-photography is good thing and useful but at
the level I can observe here I’m not quite sure if it is beneficial
FOR THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE LONG RUN.

Yes, the contemporary cameras built to force a photographer to
fight with the design's engineering limitations instead of to be
concentrated on the super-purpose of a frame. This is bad but....
still I feel that the global moranization of THE PHOTOGRAPHERS AS
THE INDIVIDUALS are the major limitation of your D1x, D100 and the
rest of the D-cameras. Would this message be delivered to us by
means of analog or digital photography is totally irrelevant.

Regards,
Romy the Cat
  • and it is NOT because Canon, Fuji, Kodak, Contax or others are
“better”: the competitors are in the same level of the unfortunate
photographic “intelligence”

The Nikon, which did not produce any REAL intelligent camera
sine... I would say... FM2
Click to expand...
--
'He who works his land will have abundant food, but he who chases
fantasies will have his fill of poverty.' -- King Solomon
Click to expand...
 
I think this sums it all up.....

The contruction of a Lyapunov function characterizing the pullback attractor of a cocycle dynamical system is presented in all DSLR's. This system is the state space component of a skew-product flow generated by a nonautonomous differential equation that is driven by an autonomous dynamical system on a metric space (space between you ears).

Trevor
 
Trevor Kloeden said:
I think this sums it all up.....

The contruction of a Lyapunov function characterizing the pullback
attractor of a cocycle dynamical system is presented in all DSLR's.
This system is the state space component of a skew-product flow
generated by a nonautonomous differential equation that is driven
by an autonomous dynamical system on a metric space (space between
you ears).

Trevor
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--.......Oh, ok..............I guess.....If you say so.
jdoyle
 
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