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According to CDI Nikon will speak about further new products during PMA. Maybe there will be some "development announcements":
  • D2 (D1X sensor with doubled pixels)
  • more DX lenses (a fast zoom and very wide and very wide prime lenses)
  • "Digital Hexar" (a pro-level digital rangefinder camera with F-mount)
  • D100s/x/h (an upgraded version of the D100 to complemtent the D100 which will drop significantly in price)
Here are the quotes from http://www.photim.com (sorry too lazy to translate)

Nous avons pourtant la quasi certitude que Nikon "parlera" en cours de PMA et dévoilera sa stratégie pour les mois à venir. Nous pourrions ainsi connaître les caractéristiques du futur D2... et de son fameux capteur dont la résolution sera doublée horizontalement ET verticalement.

Nikon pourrait aussi annoncer de nouveaux objectifs DX, notamment un zoom à plus forte amplitude et... des focales fixes!

Mais nous avons aussi de sérieuses rumeurs relatives à un appareil très innovant, genre "Hexar-numérique-Nikon" qui, justement, pourrait exploiter les optiques DX.

Nikon n'a pas jeté tous ses dés et il est probable qu'une seconde vague d'annonces aura lieu en pleine PMA touchant, cette fois, les intentions de la marque en matière de reflex numériques, donc d'objectifs associés. Nous attendons notamment un second zoom à plus forte amplitude et, surtout, des focales fixes très compactes et très lumineuses qui non seulement pourraient équiper les futurs D100x et D2 mais feraient aussi de très belles optiques pour ce que nous appelons un "Hexar-numérique-Nikon" (!).

...mais pas de nouveau D100-x ni de D2-H!

Rappelons que nous avions annoncé que, contrairement aux rumeurs, le D-100 ne subirait pas le même sort que le D-60 de Canon et que sa carrière se prolongerait durant encore un an. Nikon a donc choisi de "parler" un peu plus tard et aucun reflex numérique ne fait partie de ses annonces pré-PMA.

Cela ne signifie pas que, durant la PMA, les responsables de la firme ne feront pas état de leurs PROJETS concernant la succession des actuels D1/D100. Mais pour l'instant, rien n'est officiel et il faudra vraissemblablement attendre l'été avant de pouvoir voir les premiers modèles fonctionnels.

Walter
 
For Nikon, the dice are thrown: to see separate information. But attention: a train can in hiding another and it is probable that, during the LDC, Nikon will reveal its PROJECTS with regard to the succession of the D1H/X and the renovation of D100.

It is known that D100 will not leave the scene this year and that it will be still marketed during one year at least. For that, Nikon programmed a significant fall of price and, at the beginning of March, when the Canon innovations are known, D100 will see its official tariff going down in the neighbourhoods from 2400 euros... what is already its price, with a margin of few things, on many Internet sites.

It would as be of good taste as Nikon markets a more muscular version, with a buffer interns more significant, a faster processor and an internal programme of management of image improved: it is that which we call already D100-x!

But, of course, it is especially with the succession of D1-h/x that everyone thinks because, from the exit of the EOS 1Ds, Nikon is abused.

This is the translation off the French site
Walter Freiberger said:
  • D2 (D1X sensor with doubled pixels)
  • more DX lenses (a fast zoom and very wide and very wide prime
lenses)
  • "Digital Hexar" (a pro-level digital rangefinder camera with
F-mount)
  • D100s/x/h (an upgraded version of the D100 to complemtent the
D100 which will drop significantly in price)

Here are the quotes from http://www.photim.com (sorry too lazy to translate)

Nous avons pourtant la quasi certitude que Nikon "parlera" en cours
de PMA et dévoilera sa stratégie pour les mois à venir. Nous
pourrions ainsi connaître les caractéristiques du futur D2... et de
son fameux capteur dont la résolution sera doublée horizontalement
ET verticalement.
Nikon pourrait aussi annoncer de nouveaux objectifs DX, notamment
un zoom à plus forte amplitude et... des focales fixes!
Mais nous avons aussi de sérieuses rumeurs relatives à un appareil
très innovant, genre "Hexar-numérique-Nikon" qui, justement,
pourrait exploiter les optiques DX.

Nikon n'a pas jeté tous ses dés et il est probable qu'une seconde
vague d'annonces aura lieu en pleine PMA touchant, cette fois, les
intentions de la marque en matière de reflex numériques, donc
d'objectifs associés. Nous attendons notamment un second zoom à
plus forte amplitude et, surtout, des focales fixes très compactes
et très lumineuses qui non seulement pourraient équiper les futurs
D100x et D2 mais feraient aussi de très belles optiques pour ce que
nous appelons un "Hexar-numérique-Nikon" (!).

...mais pas de nouveau D100-x ni de D2-H!
Rappelons que nous avions annoncé que, contrairement aux rumeurs,
le D-100 ne subirait pas le même sort que le D-60 de Canon et que
sa carrière se prolongerait durant encore un an. Nikon a donc
choisi de "parler" un peu plus tard et aucun reflex numérique ne
fait partie de ses annonces pré-PMA.
Cela ne signifie pas que, durant la PMA, les responsables de la
firme ne feront pas état de leurs PROJETS concernant la succession
des actuels D1/D100. Mais pour l'instant, rien n'est officiel et il
faudra vraissemblablement attendre l'été avant de pouvoir voir les
premiers modèles fonctionnels.

Walter
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Amature said:
But, of course, it is especially with the succession of D1-h/x that
everyone thinks because, from the exit of the EOS 1Ds, Nikon is
abused.
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My best line is above, the language translators results usually have me in stitches while reading. Thanks for the translation though.

As for the rumor discussed I wouldn't be suprised if it's true, if they don't have anything real to debut at PMA then the least they should do to get the heat off their back that they are being trampled by Canon is to let us know what's "under development" this is the key strategy employed by master companies like Microsoft to get people to hold off near term purchases of competitors products in hopes of getting the next great thing from MS(the power of vapor ware)...noticing the level of gear mania that floats free in these forums I am pretty sure their ploy will work to a degree. Of course, I'd much rather they have actual cameras to release sometime later this year, maybe in the Fall??

Well PMA is a few short weeks away..we'll get the full lowdown then hopefully.

Regards,

--

 
David SL said:
As for the rumor discussed I wouldn't be suprised if it's true, if
they don't have anything real to debut at PMA then the least they
should do to get the heat off their back that they are being
trampled by Canon is to let us know what's "under development" this
is the key strategy employed by master companies like Microsoft to
get people to hold off near term purchases of competitors products
in hopes of getting the next great thing from MS(the power of vapor
ware)...noticing the level of gear mania that floats free in these
forums I am pretty sure their ploy will work to a degree. Of
course, I'd much rather they have actual cameras to release
sometime later this year, maybe in the Fall??
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Well, the main difference is that Microsoft holds a commanding share of the PC desktop and doesn't compete is such a crowded space. Nikon, on the other hand, has quite a bit of competition to deal with, so the notion of announcing the next product to keep people from buying the competition's product is less compelling.

I'm still waiting for the PMA before I make my final decision on what to purchase. It's good to be in the drivers seat!

--Gary
 
So what you're saying is that I should wait on my Nikon D100 because the price will drop significantly??
They're 2k now, does that mean 1500 soon?
Walter Freiberger said:
  • D2 (D1X sensor with doubled pixels)
  • more DX lenses (a fast zoom and very wide and very wide prime
lenses)
  • "Digital Hexar" (a pro-level digital rangefinder camera with
F-mount)
  • D100s/x/h (an upgraded version of the D100 to complemtent the
D100 which will drop significantly in price)

Here are the quotes from http://www.photim.com (sorry too lazy to translate)

Nous avons pourtant la quasi certitude que Nikon "parlera" en cours
de PMA et dévoilera sa stratégie pour les mois à venir. Nous
pourrions ainsi connaître les caractéristiques du futur D2... et de
son fameux capteur dont la résolution sera doublée horizontalement
ET verticalement.
Nikon pourrait aussi annoncer de nouveaux objectifs DX, notamment
un zoom à plus forte amplitude et... des focales fixes!
Mais nous avons aussi de sérieuses rumeurs relatives à un appareil
très innovant, genre "Hexar-numérique-Nikon" qui, justement,
pourrait exploiter les optiques DX.

Nikon n'a pas jeté tous ses dés et il est probable qu'une seconde
vague d'annonces aura lieu en pleine PMA touchant, cette fois, les
intentions de la marque en matière de reflex numériques, donc
d'objectifs associés. Nous attendons notamment un second zoom à
plus forte amplitude et, surtout, des focales fixes très compactes
et très lumineuses qui non seulement pourraient équiper les futurs
D100x et D2 mais feraient aussi de très belles optiques pour ce que
nous appelons un "Hexar-numérique-Nikon" (!).

...mais pas de nouveau D100-x ni de D2-H!
Rappelons que nous avions annoncé que, contrairement aux rumeurs,
le D-100 ne subirait pas le même sort que le D-60 de Canon et que
sa carrière se prolongerait durant encore un an. Nikon a donc
choisi de "parler" un peu plus tard et aucun reflex numérique ne
fait partie de ses annonces pré-PMA.
Cela ne signifie pas que, durant la PMA, les responsables de la
firme ne feront pas état de leurs PROJETS concernant la succession
des actuels D1/D100. Mais pour l'instant, rien n'est officiel et il
faudra vraissemblablement attendre l'été avant de pouvoir voir les
premiers modèles fonctionnels.

Walter
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If a picture paints a 1,000 words, how come mine only make 3?
 
A "Digital Hexar" - sign me up! :)

Something smaller, lighter, faster than my S2, with comparable quality? Perfect :)

Actually, I think that's a brilliant strategy from Nikon if it's true. Something like this would be an ideal backup camera if it is F-mount compatible and on the lower end of the pricing scale ($2k-ish) It's a product that a lot of pros have been clamoring for, and a segment of the market that has been completely ignored so far, they could establish some niche dominance if they did this right.
 
Why in the world would anyone want a rangefinder with an F-mount? The whole purpose of having one is to make it smaller and less conspicuous. Leica does it by giving us a selectoin of tiny little lenses to go along with it. Why would you want your 28-70 AFS slapped on the front of a camera that can't autofocus?

I would be upset if the new camera was simply a D1x with double the pixels. Where's my full frame? Where's the INOVATION?

The fact that these people claim that nikon will anounce a successor to the D100 leads me to believe this article has absolutely no credence whatsoever. Why would they do that? It would only stunt sales of the current model by encouraging people to wait and buy the next one.

This all seem's a little far fetched.
--
Al
http://www.pbase.com/ib1yysguy/portfolio
Set low goals and you'll never be disapointed.
 
ib1yysguy said:
The fact that these people claim that nikon will anounce a
successor to the D100 leads me to believe this article has
absolutely no credence whatsoever. Why would they do that? It would
only stunt sales of the current model by encouraging people to wait
and buy the next one.
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Because Canon discontinued the D60 and everbody would want to buy the successor. Sales of the D100 will be stunt either way.
 
ib1yysguy said:
I would be upset if the new camera was simply a D1x with double the
pixels. Where's my full frame? Where's the INOVATION?
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FF doesn't necessarily mean innovation, each format size has its own merits.
ib1yysguy said:
The fact that these people claim that nikon will anounce a
successor to the D100 leads me to believe this article has
absolutely no credence whatsoever. Why would they do that? It would
only stunt sales of the current model by encouraging people to wait
and buy the next one
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well if D100 falls under 1500 and a D100s is priced $2000, i bet there will
be different groups of people embracing each model, plus someone would
sell D100 to get D100s, which means overall MORE SALE and a better
and more competitive model, why NOT do that?
ib1yysguy said:
This all seem's a little far fetched.
--
Al
http://www.pbase.com/ib1yysguy/portfolio
Set low goals and you'll never be disapointed.
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ib1yysguy said:
Why in the world would anyone want a rangefinder with an F-mount?
The whole purpose of having one is to make it smaller and less
conspicuous. Leica does it by giving us a selectoin of tiny little
lenses to go along with it. Why would you want your 28-70 AFS
slapped on the front of a camera that can't autofocus?
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Why would anybody want a mirror and a prism in the optical path when they can see what the camera sees through a digtial sensor? Do you like mirror slap?

People don't remember, but when SLRs came out ,one of the knocks against them was the delay for the moving mirror. A simpler camera with fewer moving parts is always my choice for reliability.

I want a home for my 'F' Glass that's digital, I see no reason why it needs to be an SLR.

And there are autofocus rangefinders.

Larry
 
I want a digital rangefinder - something with a REAL manual focus screen.

I had dreams that Oly would give up this 4/3 venture and provide a camera that would actually bring over a group of people who love photography. Looks like I was wrong. If Nikon does it, I might even consider switching over to the 'Dark Side.' I think a digital rangefinder would be a lot of fun!

-JM
LarryK said:
I want a home for my 'F' Glass that's digital, I see no reason why
it needs to be an SLR.

And there are autofocus rangefinders.

Larry
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--
http://www.MasterworkPhotography.com
 
Gary Cacace said:
Well, the main difference is that Microsoft holds a commanding
share of the PC desktop and doesn't compete is such a crowded
space. Nikon, on the other hand, has quite a bit of competition to
deal with, so the notion of announcing the next product to keep
people from buying the competition's product is less compelling.
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Beg to disagree. If you had a ton of money invested in Nikon lenses (as a lot of people do), I think you would rather wait a few months (if you liked what was coming) rather than invest in a completely new system like Canon. Of course people could still move to Kodak or Fuji but then they stay with Nikon lenses.

Raghu
 
LarryK said:
Walter Freiberger said:
  • "Digital Hexar" (a pro-level digital rangefinder camera with
F-mount)
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Now maybe I'm just too "old school" but I'd love to have one of
these.

Larry
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Your are too old school. Think man, think! Do you really want a state of the art digital camera where you have to buy seprate viewfinder eyepieces for each fixed lens? Give up TTL metering? Would a zoom work on a rangefinder? Don't get me wrong, I think my old Contax IIIa was fantastic... in it's day! But really!

-Frank
 
Have they made an LCD I can see while holding the camera to my eye? Or have those nasty EFV become good enough that I can frame an image at a birthday party with a single candle or frame the stars in a night sky?

Until they do, I'll put up with the mirror and the prism system.

--
Tony

http://homepage.mac.com/a5m http://www.pbase.com/a5m
LarryK said:
ib1yysguy said:
Why in the world would anyone want a rangefinder with an F-mount?
The whole purpose of having one is to make it smaller and less
conspicuous. Leica does it by giving us a selectoin of tiny little
lenses to go along with it. Why would you want your 28-70 AFS
slapped on the front of a camera that can't autofocus?
Click to expand...
Why would anybody want a mirror and a prism in the optical path
when they can see what the camera sees through a digtial sensor? Do
you like mirror slap?

People don't remember, but when SLRs came out ,one of the knocks
against them was the delay for the moving mirror. A simpler camera
with fewer moving parts is always my choice for reliability.

I want a home for my 'F' Glass that's digital, I see no reason why
it needs to be an SLR.

And there are autofocus rangefinders.

Larry
Click to expand...
 
I oppose the contention that digital cameras are an entirely "new" format. Unlike the difference between 35mm and 120/220, Digital was never MEANT to be a new format. If it was, they would have released lenses at the time of it's inception. Instead, they made the sensor smaller beacuse that is what the technology of the time dictated that they do.

Now the technology exists to go full frame, and I think that it's nothing less than dissapointing that nikon would stop short of what must have been their goal in the beginning. If digital is truely meant to replace 35mm film, it has to allow the user to painly switch back and fourth between the two formats.

DX lenses will be the death nail for nikon's digital innovation.
--
Al
http://www.pbase.com/ib1yysguy/portfolio
Set low goals and you'll never be disapointed.
 
Hi Tony,

Thing is, for a lot of us, a little glass window is plenty :) Since most of my prints are 8x10, I need to crop regardless of how meticulously I've framed - so for me the mirror and prism are (often) just in the way. Rangefinders are often a heck of a lot easier to focus in low-light situations too. (IMHO)

I'm with you on not wanting one of those nasty EVFs.
Anthony Medici said:
Have they made an LCD I can see while holding the camera to my eye?
Or have those nasty EFV become good enough that I can frame an
image at a birthday party with a single candle or frame the stars
in a night sky?

Until they do, I'll put up with the mirror and the prism system.

--
Tony
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--
Charles Bandes
http://www.bandesphoto.com
 
Raghu Mani said:
Beg to disagree. If you had a ton of money invested in Nikon lenses
(as a lot of people do), I think you would rather wait a few months
(if you liked what was coming) rather than invest in a completely
new system like Canon. Of course people could still move to Kodak
or Fuji but then they stay with Nikon lenses.
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Quite so. I was going to put that caveat in my original note. No question - if you've got a significant investment in glass from any manufacturer, then it is much more costly to make a switch. In my case, I've been doing a ton of research in making my move from a CP990. I'm still on the fence, but leaning strongly toward the D100. We'll see what happens after the PMA announcements!

:)

--Gary
 
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