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Yes, it is. I prefer German and Russian. So we can use those languages if you like. It is the little boys habit to concentrate on little things. Be sure I can write with less mistakes or without any when I use plain text. Still a lot to improve.
Robert Barzilla said:
the pixels are going to find more light? LOL. A pixel cannot find
light--only record it.
netguru717 said:
Despite the new pixels have completely new form to find more light.
But this is not the light of my nirvana. Marketing sounded like that.
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Is that a sentence? (Hint: No)
Robert Barzilla said:
btw: I didnt think anybody would answer my thread. Live is always
surprisingly. It makes me nervous when you tale me as serious.
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Live? tale? You can't be serious?
Robert Barzilla said:
I have to go to bed now. :-)
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netguru717 also said:
If you ever will call some university degrees or patents your own you will > find some serious guys reading you.
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What?
I have the same number of degrees as patents--three. I do not know
about putting them in "will call" or about "finding some serious
guys reading me"

It is like you and the guy that thought the chinese in one of the
previous posts was emoticons were born of the same litter.
Robert Barzilla said:
Pure replies. I just wrote some simple conclusions about what I learned.
bfall said:
If you only show the bright areas - you can use software to show
the perimeter of dark!! (remember area = pi*r squared). You
don't even need Photoshop to do that (see comments on Luminous
Landscape!!)

The new Fuji is not the newest Fuji if the new sensor is used!!
Remember 3rd generation at 1600 is like the 4th generation at 1000
(if each generation = about 533 ISOs! on a isotropically declining
curve) Do the math!!
netguru717 said:
The ONE photo requires to show the bright areas AND the dark ones.
No photoshop solution available, the action is moving !

By the way the new fuji has even more ISO range (up to 1600).

So come on !
bfall said:
Well, you could be right, IF

1. It actually comes out on time (glad I didn't sell my 1Ds
because the 14n was going to be out in Dec)
2. It is put in an interesting body. I will take the 1Ds body
over the Fuji S2 anyday
3. It has the same or better ISO range
4. It can pull data off the chip fast enough for 3 FPS
5. It has more than 3M pixels
6. It doesn't interpolate in camera
7. By the time all this is achieved, that Canon hasn't advanced
either
8. I actually care about what the 4G offers!

Other than that, sure. Ready to sell my 1Ds

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Hi Chris,
Kris K said:
Sorry, maybe I'm as intellectually challenged as the original
poster, but could you please explain your emoticon above. Does it
mean something like Double D (Dumb as Dirt)?
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It is the only Korean word which i know but your interpretation comes pretty close...

Sorry, i don't want to offend anyone but i am already very tired of the bizarre postings from netguru here and over there at digitalkamera.de

Regards,

Andreas
 
They're the ones using "now outmoded" 3rd generation Super CCDs, 1DS owners are happy with nice cool running noise free modern CMOS (also using superior EF lenses also which no fuji will ever use unless they see sense and drop the Nikon lensmount) - go and tell the S2 owners and see how far it gets you! .

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I guess English isn't your first language, your grammer is pretty bad in this posting. You might want to try a good spell checker before posting and of course before you refer to other people as "stupid buyers."

As for the Fuji Super CCD, I agree it will be interesting but at the low resolution of the first CCD they are planning to ship, it may complete with inexpensive amateur cameras but won't even be looked at professionally.

We were all quite intrigued by the Fovean technology and now it's actually a real product. The biggest lesson from that is that the CCD is only one part of what makes a camera a good tool. It will probably be a long time before the Fuji CCD is in a camera that even comes close to the 1Ds. That said, if someone wants to sell one cheap to avoid being stuck please feel free to contact me, I'd be quite happy to have a 1Ds and am more likely to purchase the EOS 3D when it ships...

-Rudi
netguru717 said:
Did you read the news about the fuji Super CCD 4th generation SR
with four times more dynamic range than todays cameras ?

It will be available in spring. Everything else will be just a toy
compared to.

I just wanna be your one when the night comes.

upps, is this a dream, I am the fuji GURU, do you see me ?



upps, is this a dream, I am the fuji GURU, do you see me ?



upps, is this a dream, I am the fuji GURU, do you see me ?
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..because if you did have any command of English, netguru717, you would have some idea of how absolutely foolish your "mystical" tone sounds.

Let me give you a few examples....
netguru717 said:
I just wanna be your one when the night comes.

upps, is this a dream, I am the fuji GURU, do you see me ?
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Uhhh...you WHAT??

LOL. Does Fuji see you on the Canon forum totally destroying many people's regard for the Fuji technology?

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If some one is so keen about one item, brand, whatever, so be it.
One thing is sure like hangover... there will be better and better sensors, etc.

Like in the Thread: "The very first camera...., You can read short descriptions how people had changed their camera's, of course some of them kept because of emotional reasons.....
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=4244415
  • Ari -
 
I do not agree with the content of Netgurus posting, but I think it is somewhat unfair for native English speakers to comment on his English in this way. Our English may be not as good as yours, but I bet I will beat most of you in Dutch, German, French or Greek.

Please keep comments focussed on the contents of the posting.

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Merijn Wijnen
Serious amatuer, longing for a DSLR to complete his EOS glass.....

Native Dutch speaker.
 
First I want to mention my English is better than you might think.

Second thing is that I am not a friend of any fuji camera.
It seems to be easy to confuse this forum. This was not my intention.

It only was a psycho test about the first info you get about something. Thanks for joining, normally I pay people for.
netguru717 said:
Did you read the news about the fuji Super CCD 4th generation SR
with four times more dynamic range than todays cameras ?

It will be available in spring. Everything else will be just a toy
compared to.

I just wanna be your one when the night comes.

upps, is this a dream, I am the fuji GURU, do you see me ?



upps, is this a dream, I am the fuji GURU, do you see me ?



upps, is this a dream, I am the fuji GURU, do you see me ?
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It's a global forum, calling someone on their punctuation, spelling, etc is generally considered bad "netiquette".

He's proven he's an a$$, but let's remember that English is not everyone's native language, and I'm sure, if we tried to participate in his native tongue, we'd look even worse.

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Theo

Community Website for Toronto Digital Camera Users -
http://communities.msn.ca/TorontoDigital
merijnwijnen said:
I do not agree with the content of Netgurus posting, but I think it
is somewhat unfair for native English speakers to comment on his
English in this way. Our English may be not as good as yours, but I
bet I will beat most of you in Dutch, German, French or Greek.

Please keep comments focussed on the contents of the posting.

--
Merijn Wijnen
Serious amatuer, longing for a DSLR to complete his EOS glass.....

Native Dutch speaker.
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netguru717 said:
Did you read the news about the fuji Super CCD 4th generation SR
with four times more dynamic range than todays cameras ?
It will be available in spring. Everything else will be just a toy
compared to.
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The new announcement by Fuji is interesting, no doubt. However, it seems clear that they're targeting this new sensor at P&S & ZLR models like their current S602.

These cameras currently have significantly lower dynamic range than something like the D60, 1D, or 1Ds because of the small area of their sensor elements. So this new sensor, which apparently increases dynamic range by 2 stops (400%), would be a real good improvement for those cameras.

But there's already a big difference in DR between something like the S602 and the D60, 1D, or 1Ds. So your idea that this new sensor is going to leap ahead of those cameras is premature at best, and very likely just plain wrong.

Maybe if Fuji eventually makes a larger, higher resolution version of such a sensor, and a new DSLR wrapped around it, it will be something to look out for. But they haven't announced that yet.

In the meantime, the big question on my mind is this: Why are you posting faked examples? Your images are clearly intended to demonstrate an improvement in dynamic range, but they're obviously faked. The bottom picture clearly has a secondary light source coming from the right side that's not used for the top picture.

The shadows of the plant leaves on the wall, and the shadows of the shelf on the wall underneath don't exist at all in the first picture. The direction of the shadows clearly indicate a light source coming from out of the frame to the right.

And besides those shadows, there are some portions of the second picture which are 3-4 stops lighter than in the first picture, like the wall underneath the shelf, while other areas such as the undercarriage of the model train haven't been changed at all. If these images truly indicated a change of dynamic range, this wouldn't be the case.

Clearly, a second light source is being used, which is filling in shadows in MOST of the image and reducing the overall lighting contrast ratio.

Nice try.

Mike
netguru717 said:


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You need a new English translation program. Yours isn't working so well. Either that or you need to get one, your wording is all over the map!
netguru717 said:
Pure replies. I just wrote some simple conclusions about what I
learned.
Jonathan Lefcourt said:
netguru717 said:
Did you read the news about the fuji Super CCD 4th generation SR
with four times more dynamic range than todays cameras ?

It will be available in spring. Everything else will be just a toy
compared to.

I just wanna be your one when the night comes.

upps, is this a dream, I am the fuji GURU, do you see me ?



upps, is this a dream, I am the fuji GURU, do you see me ?



upps, is this a dream, I am the fuji GURU, do you see me ?
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D60,24-70L, 70-200L 2.8 IS, 15-30 Sigma (wish it was 2.8!)
50 1.4, 28-135 IS, Metz 54, 550EX, S40
and a lot of other stuff I drag around!
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Photo Noob
D60
50mm 1.8, 75-300mm 4-5.6 III
70-200 F4L
1 Gig Microdrive
Sunpak PZ5000
 
Mike Fulton said:
netguru717 said:
Did you read the news about the fuji Super CCD 4th generation SR
with four times more dynamic range than todays cameras ?
It will be available in spring. Everything else will be just a toy
compared to.
Click to expand...
The new announcement by Fuji is interesting, no doubt. However, it
seems clear that they're targeting this new sensor at P&S & ZLR
models like their current S602.

These cameras currently have significantly lower dynamic range than
something like the D60, 1D, or 1Ds because of the small area of
their sensor elements. So this new sensor, which apparently
increases dynamic range by 2 stops (400%), would be a real good
improvement for those cameras.

But there's already a big difference in DR between something like
the S602 and the D60, 1D, or 1Ds. So your idea that this new
sensor is going to leap ahead of those cameras is premature at
best, and very likely just plain wrong.

Maybe if Fuji eventually makes a larger, higher resolution version
of such a sensor, and a new DSLR wrapped around it, it will be
something to look out for. But they haven't announced that yet.

In the meantime, the big question on my mind is this: Why are you
posting faked examples? Your images are clearly intended to
demonstrate an improvement in dynamic range, but they're obviously
faked. The bottom picture clearly has a secondary light source
coming from the right side that's not used for the top picture.

The shadows of the plant leaves on the wall, and the shadows of the
shelf on the wall underneath don't exist at all in the first
picture. The direction of the shadows clearly indicate a light
source coming from out of the frame to the right.

And besides those shadows, there are some portions of the second
picture which are 3-4 stops lighter than in the first picture, like
the wall underneath the shelf, while other areas such as the
undercarriage of the model train haven't been changed at all. If
these images truly indicated a change of dynamic range, this
wouldn't be the case.

Clearly, a second light source is being used, which is filling in
shadows in MOST of the image and reducing the overall lighting
contrast ratio.

Nice try.

Mike
Mike Fulton said:


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It all makes sense now. You seek grtification in something bigger (the dpreview Canon forum) than what you posses (you don't need to understand english to know what I mean) to make up for a certain thing you lack!

I actually thought your english was good- you just sounded like Yoda!

mmmm help you I will young Jedi-

John
netguru717 said:
Second thing is that I am not a friend of any fuji camera.
It seems to be easy to confuse this forum. This was not my intention.

It only was a psycho test about the first info you get about
something. Thanks for joining, normally I pay people for.
netguru717 said:
Did you read the news about the fuji Super CCD 4th generation SR
with four times more dynamic range than todays cameras ?

It will be available in spring. Everything else will be just a toy
compared to.

I just wanna be your one when the night comes.

upps, is this a dream, I am the fuji GURU, do you see me ?



upps, is this a dream, I am the fuji GURU, do you see me ?



upps, is this a dream, I am the fuji GURU, do you see me ?
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Just Korean for idiot, which is a rough as Andreas gets.
Kris K said:
Andreas P. said:
Steffen,

You are already a pest in the forums of digitalkamera.de. Now here.
My response is a plain: 백치
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Sorry, maybe I'm as intellectually challenged as the original
poster, but could you please explain your emoticon above. Does it
mean something like Double D (Dumb as Dirt)?

Kris K
Kris K said:
Sorry, i know this is a bit harsh but it is the way it is!

Regards,

Andreas
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What did you expect ? Surely I faked everything. I thought this would be clear.

The problem is not my understanding of the differences between a slr and a cheap camera and it´s also not my English, most mistakes were just made typing letters too fast, it is just about a different habit using ironical phrases.

Man is never learning out, I learned now: Write simply what you mean posting in this canon forum. If anybody of these semiprofis here prefers German or Russian - I speak these languages much better. On the other hand my English also should be understandable despite it might sound funny sometimes, especially when typing errors and lack of language knowledge stick together in one sentence.

The reply from Mike F was the only technical interesting one. It was not my intention to produce so many ill answers from the forum members. Anyway thanks for so much attention.
Mike Fulton said:
netguru717 said:
Did you read the news about the fuji Super CCD 4th generation SR
with four times more dynamic range than todays cameras ?
It will be available in spring. Everything else will be just a toy
compared to.
Click to expand...
The new announcement by Fuji is interesting, no doubt. However, it
seems clear that they're targeting this new sensor at P&S & ZLR
models like their current S602.

These cameras currently have significantly lower dynamic range than
something like the D60, 1D, or 1Ds because of the small area of
their sensor elements. So this new sensor, which apparently
increases dynamic range by 2 stops (400%), would be a real good
improvement for those cameras.

But there's already a big difference in DR between something like
the S602 and the D60, 1D, or 1Ds. So your idea that this new
sensor is going to leap ahead of those cameras is premature at
best, and very likely just plain wrong.

Maybe if Fuji eventually makes a larger, higher resolution version
of such a sensor, and a new DSLR wrapped around it, it will be
something to look out for. But they haven't announced that yet.

In the meantime, the big question on my mind is this: Why are you
posting faked examples? Your images are clearly intended to
demonstrate an improvement in dynamic range, but they're obviously
faked. The bottom picture clearly has a secondary light source
coming from the right side that's not used for the top picture.

The shadows of the plant leaves on the wall, and the shadows of the
shelf on the wall underneath don't exist at all in the first
picture. The direction of the shadows clearly indicate a light
source coming from out of the frame to the right.

And besides those shadows, there are some portions of the second
picture which are 3-4 stops lighter than in the first picture, like
the wall underneath the shelf, while other areas such as the
undercarriage of the model train haven't been changed at all. If
these images truly indicated a change of dynamic range, this
wouldn't be the case.

Clearly, a second light source is being used, which is filling in
shadows in MOST of the image and reducing the overall lighting
contrast ratio.

Nice try.

Mike
Mike Fulton said:


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Photo Noob said:
netguru717 said:
Pure replies. I just wrote some simple conclusions about what I
learned.
Jonathan Lefcourt said:
netguru717 said:
Did you read the news about the fuji Super CCD 4th generation SR
with four times more dynamic range than todays cameras ?

It will be available in spring. Everything else will be just a toy
compared to.

I just wanna be your one when the night comes.

upps, is this a dream, I am the fuji GURU, do you see me ?



upps, is this a dream, I am the fuji GURU, do you see me ?



upps, is this a dream, I am the fuji GURU, do you see me ?
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Jonathan Lefcourt
D60,24-70L, 70-200L 2.8 IS, 15-30 Sigma (wish it was 2.8!)
50 1.4, 28-135 IS, Metz 54, 550EX, S40
and a lot of other stuff I drag around!
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Photo Noob
D60
50mm 1.8, 75-300mm 4-5.6 III
70-200 F4L
1 Gig Microdrive
Sunpak PZ5000
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Jonathan Lefcourt
D60,24-70L, 70-200L 2.8 IS, 15-30 Sigma (wish it was 2.8!)
50 1.4, 28-135 IS, Metz 54, 550EX, S40
and a lot of other stuff I drag around!
 
netguru717 said:
Man is never learning out, I learned now: Write simply what you
mean posting in this canon forum. If anybody of these semiprofis
here prefers German or Russian - I speak these languages much
better. On the other hand my English also should be understandable
despite it might sound funny sometimes, especially when typing
errors and lack of language knowledge stick together in one
sentence.
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As a german native speaker i can claim that your thesises in german (digitalkamera.de forums) are
at least as bizarre as those one which you are posting here!

I know it would be better just to ignore you but i can't...

Regards,

A.P.
 
It seems that you wanted to say something like idiot. The Korean word isn't quite equivalent to idiot. Idiots have enough intelligence but behave non-intelligently. The Korean word means inheretntly non-intelligent people.
Andreas P. said:
Andreas P. said:
Sorry, maybe I'm as intellectually challenged as the original
poster, but could you please explain your emoticon above. Does it
mean something like Double D (Dumb as Dirt)?
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It is the only Korean word which i know but your interpretation
comes pretty close...

Sorry, i don't want to offend anyone but i am already very tired of
the bizarre postings from netguru here and over there at
digitalkamera.de

Regards,

Andreas
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