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Thanks for posting the link. I am not a pixel peeper so I am not as concerned about some characteristics as others but I do want the best AF system possible and I do shoot sports in low light.

His review was exactly what I was looking for, and coming from a Nikon shooter, I feel it was an honest assessment.
Looking forward to getting one!
 
Now it seems he has a champion camera too (albeit for a couple of days .... or more perhaps ?).

Non touring car fans won't know what the hell I'm on about ...

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One very odd statement "One of the reasons I changed to Nikon years ago was because of the noise performance. Since the change I have watched as Canon continued along the same path with noise and I was happy to stay with the D3 and then the D3s. In my opinion Nikon have always had the best noise performance from their sensors and using high ISO on a Canon sensor just rendered too much noise."

???

everyone knows that Nikon sensors used to be wayy behind, who on earth switched to Nikon from Canon to get better SNR in the early DSLR days??

maybe by early days he means D3s and later and he stuck with film for a long time??

he did talk about ugly stuff in low iso shadows, but the thing is canon still has trouble there and yet he said 1dx was perfect so....
 
for a guy that didnt want to say anything bad about other camera manufactures he managed to do the opposite & managed to be negative in his first 2 paragraphs. im not saying his comments didnt have some merit but he said he wasnt going to go there in this review.

decent review but was put off by a guy that seems a little too absorbed by himself and an image of himself that he up front tried to paint for the reader.

david
 
Andy Rouse is a very good nature/wildlife photographer and a very clever businessman. He's sponsored by paramo, and other manufacturers as well as an online shop.

He was using Canon but then Nikon offered him a deal he couldn't refuse..ie we buy all you Canon stuff if you switch to ours. Nikon did that with many pros in the days of the Canon 1dmkiii fiasco.

Andy did the right thing. He's a pro. I've got the feeling that if he's happy with the 1Dx Canon will switch him to their gear...

The fact that they asked him to try the 1Dx is an indication.

Great review by the way and Andy is right that up until now Nikon had the edge on noise at high ISO.
bronxbombers said:
One very odd statement "One of the reasons I changed to Nikon years ago was because of the noise performance. Since the change I have watched as Canon continued along the same path with noise and I was happy to stay with the D3 and then the D3s. In my opinion Nikon have always had the best noise performance from their sensors and using high ISO on a Canon sensor just rendered too much noise."

???

everyone knows that Nikon sensors used to be wayy behind, who on earth switched to Nikon from Canon to get better SNR in the early DSLR days??

maybe by early days he means D3s and later and he stuck with film for a long time??

he did talk about ugly stuff in low iso shadows, but the thing is canon still has trouble there and yet he said 1dx was perfect so....
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bronxbombers said:
everyone knows that Nikon sensors used to be wayy behind, who on earth switched to Nikon from Canon to get better SNR in the early DSLR days??
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What are you talking about? The D3 came out in 2007. That is 5 years ago and yes, it was superior in ISO porformance to anything Canon had to offer at the time.
 
jhal said:
Great review by the way and Andy is right that up until now Nikon had the edge on noise at high ISO.
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only for the last very few years they were wayyy behind for all of the early and middle days of the DSLR era which made his comment very weird
 
SubPrime said:
bronxbombers said:
everyone knows that Nikon sensors used to be wayy behind, who on earth switched to Nikon from Canon to get better SNR in the early DSLR days??
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What are you talking about? The D3 came out in 2007. That is 5 years ago and yes, it was superior in ISO porformance to anything Canon had to offer at the time.
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D3 was hardly in the early days

Canon was vastly ahead prior to that, far more ahead than nikon was at the d3 era
 
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Compare-Camera-Sensors/Compare-cameras-side-by-side/ (appareil1) 483%7C0 (brand) Canon (appareil2) 438%7C0 (brand2) Nikon

D3 was a little better

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Compare-Camera-Sensors/Compare-cameras-side-by-side/ (appareil1) 203%7C0 (brand) Nikon (appareil2) 176%7C0 (brand2) Canon (appareil3) 281%7C0 (brand3) Canon

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Compare-Camera-Sensors/Compare-cameras-side-by-side/ (appareil1) 203%7C0 (brand) Nikon (appareil2) 176%7C0 (brand2) Canon (appareil3) 281%7C0 (brand3) Canon

nikon SNR was a bit better then than I thought but it still was just a bit off aps-c to aps-c and their high iso DR was wayyyyy worse back then and if oyu go to FF and aps-h, which canon did have then and nikon did not, then canon SNR was way better too
bronxbombers said:
SubPrime said:
bronxbombers said:
everyone knows that Nikon sensors used to be wayy behind, who on earth switched to Nikon from Canon to get better SNR in the early DSLR days??
Click to expand...
What are you talking about? The D3 came out in 2007. That is 5 years ago and yes, it was superior in ISO porformance to anything Canon had to offer at the time.
Click to expand...
D3 was hardly in the early days

Canon was vastly ahead prior to that, far more ahead than nikon was at the d3 era
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bronxbombers said:
D3 was hardly in the early days
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It was 5 years ago, which in camera tecnology terms, is an entire generation of camera.
bronxbombers said:
Canon was vastly ahead prior to that, far more ahead than nikon was at the d3 era
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No, the D3 established an advatagge that was easily as great as the gap between Canon and Nikon prio to that - so much so that it resulted in an exodus of Canon shooters to Nikon.
 
bronxbombers said:
D3 was a little better
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For ISO and DR a LOT better.
bronxbombers said:
nikon SNR was a bit better then than I thought but it still was just a bit off aps-c to aps-c and their high iso DR was wayyyyy worse back then and if oyu go to FF and aps-h, which canon did have then and nikon did not, then canon SNR was way better too
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Why are you harping on about aps-c sensors? The D2Xs was the last aps-c in a pro body and that was released in 2004.
 
SubPrime said:
bronxbombers said:
D3 was hardly in the early days
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It was 5 years ago, which in camera tecnology terms, is an entire generation of camera.
SubPrime said:
Canon was vastly ahead prior to that, far more ahead than nikon was at the d3 era
Click to expand...
No, the D3 established an advatagge that was easily as great as the gap between Canon and Nikon prio to that - so much so that it resulted in an exodus of Canon shooters to Nikon.
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Two things.

The D3 and D700 were the lowest noise cameras at the time but also by far the lowest resolution.

I think what the D3 and D700 did was to lure back some of the Nikon film shooters that abandoned Nikon for Canon digital up until the D3/700 era. Certainly some Canon shooters converted too but there was a lot of pent up demand for a Nikon camera with a decent sensor. The same just happened with the D800 where there was again much waiting demand for an affordable high resolution Nikon body.

Bob

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SubPrime said:
bronxbombers said:
D3 was a little better
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For ISO and DR a LOT better.
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it was like maybe 1/3 stop better SNR than a 5D2 (normalized, not fair to compare them at 100%)
SubPrime said:
SubPrime said:
nikon SNR was a bit better then than I thought but it still was just a bit off aps-c to aps-c and their high iso DR was wayyyyy worse back then and if oyu go to FF and aps-h, which canon did have then and nikon did not, then canon SNR was way better too
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Why are you harping on about aps-c sensors? The D2Xs was the last aps-c in a pro body and that was released in 2004.
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because that is all nikon had for the early and middle rounds of DSLR usage
 
lsiten I've been as hard on Canon and bashed them as much as anyone but you are being as silly a Nikon fanboy as half the Canon users are Canon fanboys
SubPrime said:
bronxbombers said:
D3 was hardly in the early days
Click to expand...
It was 5 years ago, which in camera tecnology terms, is an entire generation of camera.
SubPrime said:
Canon was vastly ahead prior to that, far more ahead than nikon was at the d3 era
Click to expand...
No, the D3 established an advatagge that was easily as great as the gap between Canon and Nikon prio to that - so much so that it resulted in an exodus of Canon shooters to Nikon.
Click to expand...
 
And here we go again....he must find it hilarious that his extremely positive review of the 1dx still results in the interminable brand loyalty nonsense...If you scroll down to his comments about theD800 you will read a review that also kicks lots of the misinformation about that camera, thats beenposted here, into the long grass...on the other hand, probably not on this site!
 
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