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G1X vs. Eos M
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peter_friend
Leading Member
No, no and no...
Theses 2 cameras are different categories.
Each have + and - but in a different categorie.
Please compare oranges with oranges and apples with apples!!!
I am tired of these so badly comparaisons!!!
Peter.
(I have the Canon G1X and i think that these forum is for constructive discussion, please!)
Theses 2 cameras are different categories.
Each have + and - but in a different categorie.
Please compare oranges with oranges and apples with apples!!!
I am tired of these so badly comparaisons!!!
Peter.
(I have the Canon G1X and i think that these forum is for constructive discussion, please!)
tommy leong
Forum Enthusiast
the more i look at Canon M, the more I like the G1X.
G1X has better dials placement, and flip out LCD
and seems like even better AF.
Canon M has 22 f2 which is its strong attraction.
Interchangeable lens is great but HOW are you going to hold
that small body with a big lens....
the whole concept of Canon M seems to be small and compact
but still interchangeable lens.
Question is HOW comfortable it will be with a front heavy lens???
G1X seems a much better integrated camera
G1X has better dials placement, and flip out LCD
and seems like even better AF.
Canon M has 22 f2 which is its strong attraction.
Interchangeable lens is great but HOW are you going to hold
that small body with a big lens....
the whole concept of Canon M seems to be small and compact
but still interchangeable lens.
Question is HOW comfortable it will be with a front heavy lens???
G1X seems a much better integrated camera
I believe even most Canon supporters will only buy one of these cameras so it is reasonable to compare them.
For example, if you only have $1,000 and would like to buy a high quality non-DSLR Canon camera, which one you are going to buy and why?
When you suggest don't compare them, are you saying that not to buy neither one?
For example, if you only have $1,000 and would like to buy a high quality non-DSLR Canon camera, which one you are going to buy and why?
When you suggest don't compare them, are you saying that not to buy neither one?
VincentWSLim
Active member
IMHO,
I already own a DSLR so it make sense for me to get EOS M.
I already own a DSLR so it make sense for me to get EOS M.
the mono eye
Well-known member
The difference between this two camera is very obvious since they are from different category, and Yes i agree that we should not compare them side by side, but if you are wondering which one you should buy, it is all up to your personal preference and requirement.
If you really need to have more manual control, smaller package in whole including lens, you know what you should get.
If you want to have more versatility and creativity to work around with different lens, a simple control layout, touch focus, good video function, you know what you should get too.
As simple as that and nothing to crack your head about. I believe both camera will offer great IQ, so this is not really an big issue. For the meantime i will stick with my G1 X, if there's ever a higher end EOS-M, i may consider to buy one as I prefer more physical control than touch screen.
If you really need to have more manual control, smaller package in whole including lens, you know what you should get.
If you want to have more versatility and creativity to work around with different lens, a simple control layout, touch focus, good video function, you know what you should get too.
As simple as that and nothing to crack your head about. I believe both camera will offer great IQ, so this is not really an big issue. For the meantime i will stick with my G1 X, if there's ever a higher end EOS-M, i may consider to buy one as I prefer more physical control than touch screen.
Both cameras use virtually the same pixels but the EOSM has more of them. That means you will, theoretically, get slightly more detail in the EOSM than the G1X. Shooting RAW, you should get identical dynamic range and noise, though the EOSM would have a minuscule noise advantage as you could add a tad more noise control for the same detail retention.
In reality, it all comes down to lenses. The G1X lens is outstanding, the EOSM lenses are still unknown.
I expect, in practical terms, a draw for image quality, unless you use adaptors on the EOSM and add expensive glass, which defeats the point of a small camera.
The G1X is a more complete camera as it stands, the EOSM is part of an expandable system. As I already had a DSLR system, I chose the G1X over the NEX7, EM5 and their peers when my lovely EP1 broke. Three months later, I absolutely know I made the right decision for my type of photography and rarely use my DSLR!
Horses for courses, as they say.
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Don.
A Land Rover, a camera ... I'm happy!
Marco Nero
Veteran Member
Two very different cameras. Completely different from one another and incomparable.
However, the EOS-M is ONLY as good as the lens used on it.
The G1X is a self-contained unit which has a lens that is truely well ranged. It is also a complete camera with all the features on it that the EOS-M is lacking... this includes a Flip-LCD, built-in flash, an OVF etc...
So if you rwally want to compare them, the G1X is a complete camera and the EOS-M is not because it lacks numerous features that are on the G1X. To get the same lens range in the EOS-M will cost you much more money to find a suitable lens and the eventual weight difference will make the EOS-M heavier.
Disadvantages of the EOS-M include an exposed sensor when changing or removing lenses, no built-in flash, a sometimes unresponsive touch screen (which requires sticky or dirty fingers to come in contact with it to operate the camera)... etc.
Which is better? The G1X is. Even if you find a comparable lens for the EOS-M, the G1X will still be less expensive, lighter, smaller, and more complete. Even with a VERY small f/2 lens on it, the EOS-M is the same size as the G1X.
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However, the EOS-M is ONLY as good as the lens used on it.
The G1X is a self-contained unit which has a lens that is truely well ranged. It is also a complete camera with all the features on it that the EOS-M is lacking... this includes a Flip-LCD, built-in flash, an OVF etc...
So if you rwally want to compare them, the G1X is a complete camera and the EOS-M is not because it lacks numerous features that are on the G1X. To get the same lens range in the EOS-M will cost you much more money to find a suitable lens and the eventual weight difference will make the EOS-M heavier.
Disadvantages of the EOS-M include an exposed sensor when changing or removing lenses, no built-in flash, a sometimes unresponsive touch screen (which requires sticky or dirty fingers to come in contact with it to operate the camera)... etc.
Which is better? The G1X is. Even if you find a comparable lens for the EOS-M, the G1X will still be less expensive, lighter, smaller, and more complete. Even with a VERY small f/2 lens on it, the EOS-M is the same size as the G1X.
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Marco Nero.
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Actually, the EOSM lenses may not be too bad. Look at the samples here: http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eosm/ . The processing is excessive but it does look like the kit zoom will be very reasonable and the 22mm has a very nice look.
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Don.
A Land Rover, a camera ... I'm happy!
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Don.
A Land Rover, a camera ... I'm happy!
It is because when people want to have "more versatility and creativity to work around with different lens", they may also like to have more button or dial to quickly access the function they need (for easier to carry out creative work).
"Creative work" is not only refer to different zoom range. Change of Aperture, Shutter Speed, ISO and many functions "quickly" is also very important to creative work.
The problem is then for somebody who want more manual control and the ability to change zoom range. Which areas should they compromise when selecting between these two cameras (or whether to even spend time considering them)? It is a hard decision.
"Creative work" is not only refer to different zoom range. Change of Aperture, Shutter Speed, ISO and many functions "quickly" is also very important to creative work.
The problem is then for somebody who want more manual control and the ability to change zoom range. Which areas should they compromise when selecting between these two cameras (or whether to even spend time considering them)? It is a hard decision.
I believe it depends on how we will use the camera. For those who has already owned a DSLR, the benefit of EOS M can be limited. They can of course use the lens for DSLR on EOS M. However, if we use DSLR lens, the benefit of EOS M significantly reduced. A DSLR body is bigger but the difference will be less when we use a big lens on EOS M. Some Canon high quality lens are really big too. The result is no matter we use DSLR body or EOS M body, we still need to carry a big camera bag.
The benefit of G1X is it is really small and it is more portable than EOS M. It is more like a camera that can be taken everywhere. I can hang G1X on my belt but I may not be able to do the same for EOS M (especially if I want to use zoom lens).
The benefit of G1X is it is really small and it is more portable than EOS M. It is more like a camera that can be taken everywhere. I can hang G1X on my belt but I may not be able to do the same for EOS M (especially if I want to use zoom lens).
Dimitri Khoz
Leading Member
Canon G1 X is a compact "equivalent" of Canon 1D X
And Canon EOS M is a compact "equivalent" of other Canon EOS DSLR's.
And Canon EOS M is a compact "equivalent" of other Canon EOS DSLR's.
LonelyPixel
Forum Enthusiast
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Actually, the EOSM with the 22mm lens is quite a bit smaller than the G1X. With the zoom it's a different shape - smaller in two dimensions but bigger in one. So size isn't really a G1X advantage! It has other advantages....
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Don.
A Land Rover, a camera ... I'm happy!
Adam-T
Forum Pro
Image quality should be the same as the G1X only more of it - basically the G1X is 14Mp of 550D/600D sensor , the EOS-M is a whole one (with AF sensors added) ..
everything else goes to the G1X, the EOS-M is less well equipped dialwise than an S90 even .......... also I very much doubt they'll make a zoom of the range and quality of the G1X optic as no one else has in the mirrorless world, the bundled lens is likely to be as good as the Canon 18-55 EFS at very best . the G1X is also SILENT, the rest of the mirrorless world make more noise than a Pentax K5 DSLR which has a Mirrior .
When EOS-M develops a cam At least as well appointed as the G1X I'll get one as it'll take my EOS lenses but until then, I can well do without .
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everything else goes to the G1X, the EOS-M is less well equipped dialwise than an S90 even .......... also I very much doubt they'll make a zoom of the range and quality of the G1X optic as no one else has in the mirrorless world, the bundled lens is likely to be as good as the Canon 18-55 EFS at very best . the G1X is also SILENT, the rest of the mirrorless world make more noise than a Pentax K5 DSLR which has a Mirrior .
When EOS-M develops a cam At least as well appointed as the G1X I'll get one as it'll take my EOS lenses but until then, I can well do without .
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A Problem is only the pessimistic way of looking at a challenge
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mcslsk
Guest
G1X. Because the G1X is a camera, the "M" is an iPhone that you cannot use to call someone and does not have facebook on it either 
. It's an iPhone to which you can attach a 4 pound tele lens. The only similarity between the two is that the darn movie button is in the same unfortunate place.
. It's an iPhone to which you can attach a 4 pound tele lens. The only similarity between the two is that the darn movie button is in the same unfortunate place.
Adam-T
Forum Pro
worse really as like the NEX7 it's even closer to the thumb grip part and the zoom will make your thumb roll on to it like the NEX7 (Do this all the time with the 7 - the G1X ? NEVER) ..
Yup, it's a 5N wannabe, less well equipped than a tiny S90 dialwise and anything bigger than a 50mm F1.8 will be unweildy . bring on the EVF / Dial version
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Rmark
Senior Member
After much research, here in the forums and elsewhere , I picked up a used G1x . So far, in spite of the well documented shortcomings, I'm quite happy with it. I've also a fair amount of experience with mirrorless ILCs, in the form of a Panasonic G2. They are both capable of taking fine images, an I assume the new Canon Eos M will as well.
The deal breaker for me though is the touch screen interface. I like it fine on my iPhone , but actually hate it on the Panasonic . Would personally never buy a camera that relied on a touch screen to adjust settings.. I'm sure many find it just great, but also sure I'm not the only one who finds the touch screen awkward on a camera.
Since I already own a very nice DSLR, with some very nice glass, i bought the G1x to work as a "spur of the moment" travel camera when I still want good image quality , but don't want to haul around my whole kit.
So for me the G1x beats the new M as it does not require interchangeable lenses, has great IQ, and most importantly has good physical controls.
The deal breaker for me though is the touch screen interface. I like it fine on my iPhone , but actually hate it on the Panasonic . Would personally never buy a camera that relied on a touch screen to adjust settings.. I'm sure many find it just great, but also sure I'm not the only one who finds the touch screen awkward on a camera.
Since I already own a very nice DSLR, with some very nice glass, i bought the G1x to work as a "spur of the moment" travel camera when I still want good image quality , but don't want to haul around my whole kit.
So for me the G1x beats the new M as it does not require interchangeable lenses, has great IQ, and most importantly has good physical controls.
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