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BrendanSeabrook said:
" No viewfinder no sale."
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Do you know what they call a camera with interchangeable lenses and a Viewfinder?

IT'S CALLED A DSLR !!!!!!!!

The prism on top of the camera connects the viewfinder to the view-through-the-lens via a mirror. Remove the mirror and the viewfinder can't see through the lens. So an optical view finder is not going to give you any information like focus lock etc.

Seriously, this has got to the the DUMBEST argument against buying a camera like this.

Want a view through that expensive lens of yours? Buy a DSLR. If you think this type of camera needs an OVF, perhaps you should consider taking up a different hobby. Because you missed the whole point of a camera like this and why it exists.
 
So, no viewfinder, no flash, lens doesn't fold flat, and too big to be pocketable. It'll probably also cost more than a Rebel.

Remind me why anyone cares about this segment.

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Lee Jay
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Because everyone has different priorities. "Not pocketable" doesn't mean anything larger than your pocket is the same so you might as well carry a 10 pound camera. I personally don't compare cameras to pockets, but there are levels of effort people are willing to exert and size does play a role. I love my 7D, but sometimes I don't want to carry a backpack around or have a heavy camera hanging around my neck. I went with the G1 X and I doubt I'll care anything about a mirrorless Canon.
 
Could well be a pop up flash as on the S90/95. No top views, and it's too soon to jump to conclusions.
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Jerry
 
No flash? We haven't seen a top view. Might there be a rising flash as on my S90?
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Jerry
 
howardroark said:
"Not pocketable" doesn't mean anything larger than your pocket is the same so you might as well carry a 10 pound camera.
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Means exactly that to me.

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Lee Jay
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no flash on the top, should be fixed screen... seems like no external EV dial. Not the slimmest design but it looks okay. Looking forward for X series to release.

 
frontlens size and 22 mm 2.0!

Looks like its not an aps-c size sensor

perry
 
The first thing that strikes the eye is the lack of proper manual control elements.
Provided it's not a bad joke from China, called "EOS-M" for mock-up.

Oh these inches ... back in the days of the radio valve (valve RF amplifiers), about 50 to 100yrs ago, the electronics industry decided to call 16.4 mm an "inch".

I have no idea if it was to prevent industrial espionage, military secret BS or simply the effective element size without containment, the fact remains that we have two very different "inches" today.

The digital camera sensor size is based on that 16.4mm-(valve)-inch, which becomes immediately clear, when You think of the tiny sensors built in modern compact cameras.

An 1/1.7" sensor sounds fairly big, but it's size is something like 5.7x7.6 mm.
In terms of REAL INCHES, this would be an even smaller 1/2.63" sensor.

Now, what sounds more likely in marketing terms: 1/1.7" or 1/2.7" ?
Which model would You prefer (and spend big $$$ at) ?

Back to the "EOS-M".

Have You realised that this camera has about the size of the PowerShot S-90/95/100 ? Even slightly bigger. Apart from the lack of manual controls and EFV (?), this seems to be as small a camera as it gets.
 
So you have to single out China to make a bad joke? You sure have a lot of class.
DeMaatin said:
Provided it's not a bad joke from China
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I love the smell of misplaced internet rage in the morning.

Not only are there plenty of good examples bellow but there are also accessory viewfinders such as the Panasonic (vf2, vf3), Olympus (vf2, vf3), Samsung evf10 and the new leica x2 can take a re-branded olympus vf3.
 
I agree the slide lever on the front plus the empty space on top seems to be the right place for the manual, pop-up flash.
 
Enough said
 
BrendanSeabrook said:
I love the smell of misplaced internet rage in the morning.
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Derp away, my friend. You are MISSING the entire point of Mirrorless ICL cameras if your think you need an OVF. If you feel that a Nikon V1 is going to do the job, go buy one. Even DPreview won't recommend them. LOL!.

QUOTE" Unless this is of specific interest to you, given the strength of the competition it is very hard to recommend that you go out and buy a V1."

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Marco Nero.
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Using the outside width of the hot shoe as 20 mm, I scaled several dimensions off the front view.

Width = 117.4 mm (4.6")
Height= 78 mm (3.1")
Mount OD = 66 mm (2.6") my 60D flange is 65 mm.

Sensor Diagonal = 29 mm (hard to get an accurate measurement because of the printing)

Looks like an APS-C sensor in a version of the EF mount.

Dimensions look close based on the closeness of the scaled Vs measured mount flange. It's obviously not going to be exact, measuring off the screen as I did.

Looks nice, and i love the idea of a 35 mm equivalent lens. That was always my favorite lens on my film cameras, the 35mm f/2.
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Jerry
 
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