CCD cleaning disaster.

LOL - regrettably I used an old one (but it was too late by then anyway, I'd already bought the D1X!)

I'd guess they use Eclips like the rest of us (wouldn't you?)

kind regards
jono slack
kind regards
jono slack
Keeping your fingers crossed will never hurt, but expect the best
turnout.

Regards,
Trent
My D100 was new in September of 2002. I don't change lenses that
often, and seem to have been 'dust-free' for a few months. However.
I noticed my first dust specks a few days ago, ordered some Pec
pads, cleaning swabs and Eclipse fluid. Could not clear the dust
specks completely only seemed to be shifting them around the CCD
surface. After about the use of 4 Pec pads and different 'styles'
of cleaning (at no time ever pressing hard on the CCD) I noticed
the appearance of a mark that would not shift. I tried more
cleaning - a fresh pec pad - the mark got bigger. It looks like
some sort of coating is coming off the CCD filter. So it looks like
the CCD filter is now damaged. But how - I do not know. At no time
did I ever apply excessive pressure - I did make the first time
mistake of too much Eclipse fluid on the pad and caused a few
smears - but I changed the pad and got rid of the smears. Looks
like I am now at the mercy of Nikon (UK) and the D100 will have to
go back. To those of you who haven't yet attempted a CCD clean - do
it at your own risk. I doubt if I will get away with a warranty
repair here. After all - Nikon say 'Don't clean the CCD' !! I've
probably invalidated the warranty by my actions. But how or why
this has happened - I do not know. I only ever used Eclipse fluid
and pec pads.
--
Jono Slack
http://www.slack.co.uk
--
Jono Slack
http://www.slack.co.uk
 
Zorpie,

I do not use the swabs, I only bought the Eclipse fluid and the pec pads that come with it, I sort of used Thoms method but bought a tool from an arts and craft shop which has a wedge shaped rubber end the right size and shape to fit across the CCD and have enough give in it so as not to do any danage. It allows me to safely apply pressure but will bend if I apply too much I can now clean my sensor with half a pec pad folded in two and wrapped round the end of the rubber tool and secured with a rubber band, two drops of eclipse on the pad and then press down and drawit across the sensor one way the n turn it over and draw it back across the sensor the other way.

The trick I found was not being afraid to apply a little pressure, you can not frighten the dust off you have to wipe it off.

I hope you can understand my description.

Its easy for me to sit here and tell you to press harder, I know its not easy for you to stay cool and not think the worst, I hope it works out for you.

Regards.

Brian.
Thanks for your input. The photo of the CCD - is a photo of a piece
of white paper illuminated with a tungsten lamp. When you look at
the CCD itself - the (damaged) area IS lighter than the remainder
(good part) of the CCD. Take a look at the other photo of the CCD
itself. You are right about the rest of the dust specks. No matter
what I did - I could not rid them off the CCD !! I need some more
practice at this CCD cleaning !! But I did it as per Thom Hogans
instructions - ie wipe across CCD face edge to edge - flip the swab
and wipe again. When you say apply more pressure to the sensor swab
  • what sensor swab are you using ? The ones that came with the
Eclipse fluid - or the Thom Hogan DIY plastic version ?? I have
only the Eclipse version but you can only apply so much pressure as
the edges are only pec-pads and they will bend.
Zorpie,

Don't take this the wrong way I want this not to be a damaged CCD
as much as you do but looking at your posted image there is still a
lot of dust on the sensor, I got this the first time i cleaned and
it was because i was afraid to press hard enough on the sensor with
the swab.

When I finaly applied about the same pressure as you would use to
write with a pen the dust came off, I know thats not a very
scientific explanation for pressure but its the best i can describe
it.

The two dark areas on your image still look to me like some kind of
dirt or smudge, the edges are very ragged and random and i would
have guessed a coating coming away would have a less jagged edge
also there are lots of smaller smudges near the big ones. Also if
it was a coating coming off I would think the area under the
coating would be lighter not darker than the good areas, which
again makes me think its some kind of contamination rather than
damage.

I might be totaly wrong but I am an optimistic type and until the
worst is proven I think its dirt.

Go on give it another clean.

Brian.
 
Zorpie,

My explanation theory is this: Perhaps you live in an area with very, very fine dust. Except the usual particles you had a very fine dust covering some part if not all your ccd. When you aplied Eclipse and swabs, because of the lack of presure, the methanol just unified those very fine dust particles in some bigger areas. This dust could be of natural origin (flowers perhaps) industrial or else. Some sort of dirty smoke in your area? Something that could interract with the methanol in the way I just pointed out?
--
regards,
AdWiser
 
Hi Brian,

Thanks again - your description was OK and I understood it fine. What I don't want to do just now - is to apply any more cleaning fluid to the CCD. I am frightened it will do more damage. The only solution for me now - is to send the D100 back. I'll just have to wait and see what Nikon (UK) have to say about it. Maybe I am the eternal pessimist - but I have to say that I fear the worst !! It just looks pretty bad from where I am sat at the moment !! Like everyone else on this Forum - I just love my D100 - and want it back in 100% shape. Whatever the problem is - I have absolutely NO idea.

Thanks again anyway Brian.
I do not use the swabs, I only bought the Eclipse fluid and the pec
pads that come with it, I sort of used Thoms method but bought a
tool from an arts and craft shop which has a wedge shaped rubber
end the right size and shape to fit across the CCD and have enough
give in it so as not to do any danage. It allows me to safely apply
pressure but will bend if I apply too much I can now clean my
sensor with half a pec pad folded in two and wrapped round the end
of the rubber tool and secured with a rubber band, two drops of
eclipse on the pad and then press down and drawit across the sensor
one way the n turn it over and draw it back across the sensor the
other way.

The trick I found was not being afraid to apply a little pressure,
you can not frighten the dust off you have to wipe it off.

I hope you can understand my description.

Its easy for me to sit here and tell you to press harder, I know
its not easy for you to stay cool and not think the worst, I hope
it works out for you.

Regards.

Brian.
Thanks for your input. The photo of the CCD - is a photo of a piece
of white paper illuminated with a tungsten lamp. When you look at
the CCD itself - the (damaged) area IS lighter than the remainder
(good part) of the CCD. Take a look at the other photo of the CCD
itself. You are right about the rest of the dust specks. No matter
what I did - I could not rid them off the CCD !! I need some more
practice at this CCD cleaning !! But I did it as per Thom Hogans
instructions - ie wipe across CCD face edge to edge - flip the swab
and wipe again. When you say apply more pressure to the sensor swab
  • what sensor swab are you using ? The ones that came with the
Eclipse fluid - or the Thom Hogan DIY plastic version ?? I have
only the Eclipse version but you can only apply so much pressure as
the edges are only pec-pads and they will bend.
Zorpie,

Don't take this the wrong way I want this not to be a damaged CCD
as much as you do but looking at your posted image there is still a
lot of dust on the sensor, I got this the first time i cleaned and
it was because i was afraid to press hard enough on the sensor with
the swab.

When I finaly applied about the same pressure as you would use to
write with a pen the dust came off, I know thats not a very
scientific explanation for pressure but its the best i can describe
it.

The two dark areas on your image still look to me like some kind of
dirt or smudge, the edges are very ragged and random and i would
have guessed a coating coming away would have a less jagged edge
also there are lots of smaller smudges near the big ones. Also if
it was a coating coming off I would think the area under the
coating would be lighter not darker than the good areas, which
again makes me think its some kind of contamination rather than
damage.

I might be totaly wrong but I am an optimistic type and until the
worst is proven I think its dirt.

Go on give it another clean.

Brian.
 
AdWiser,

I live in the West of Scotland - not an industrial area around here for miles. I don't know about a fine dust - all I saw was the dust specks on my photos for the first time last week after having had the D100 here since September of last year when I bought it new. I thought I was doing pretty well - having had the camera for 5 months and never needing to clean the CCD !! Photography is my hobby - so the D100 is not used every day - in fact - this time of the year - it is used maybe only at weekends !! I guess I have only taken about 200 photos max with it since September last year.
Zorpie,

My explanation theory is this: Perhaps you live in an area with
very, very fine dust. Except the usual particles you had a very
fine dust covering some part if not all your ccd. When you aplied
Eclipse and swabs, because of the lack of presure, the methanol
just unified those very fine dust particles in some bigger areas.
This dust could be of natural origin (flowers perhaps) industrial
or else. Some sort of dirty smoke in your area? Something that
could interract with the methanol in the way I just pointed out?
--
regards,
AdWiser
 
Zorpie,

No problem, you have to do what you are comfortable with, I hope it is just a case of Nikon cleaning it and sending it back soon.

I can go to bed now its way past my bed time, I've been staying up to see if you would give it one more clean, I think most people with a digital SLR will be interested in the outcome.

Keep us all informed please.

Regards.

Brian.
Thanks again - your description was OK and I understood it fine.
What I don't want to do just now - is to apply any more cleaning
fluid to the CCD. I am frightened it will do more damage. The only
solution for me now - is to send the D100 back. I'll just have to
wait and see what Nikon (UK) have to say about it. Maybe I am the
eternal pessimist - but I have to say that I fear the worst !! It
just looks pretty bad from where I am sat at the moment !! Like
everyone else on this Forum - I just love my D100 - and want it
back in 100% shape. Whatever the problem is - I have absolutely NO
idea.

Thanks again anyway Brian.
I do not use the swabs, I only bought the Eclipse fluid and the pec
pads that come with it, I sort of used Thoms method but bought a
tool from an arts and craft shop which has a wedge shaped rubber
end the right size and shape to fit across the CCD and have enough
give in it so as not to do any danage. It allows me to safely apply
pressure but will bend if I apply too much I can now clean my
sensor with half a pec pad folded in two and wrapped round the end
of the rubber tool and secured with a rubber band, two drops of
eclipse on the pad and then press down and drawit across the sensor
one way the n turn it over and draw it back across the sensor the
other way.

The trick I found was not being afraid to apply a little pressure,
you can not frighten the dust off you have to wipe it off.

I hope you can understand my description.

Its easy for me to sit here and tell you to press harder, I know
its not easy for you to stay cool and not think the worst, I hope
it works out for you.

Regards.

Brian.
Thanks for your input. The photo of the CCD - is a photo of a piece
of white paper illuminated with a tungsten lamp. When you look at
the CCD itself - the (damaged) area IS lighter than the remainder
(good part) of the CCD. Take a look at the other photo of the CCD
itself. You are right about the rest of the dust specks. No matter
what I did - I could not rid them off the CCD !! I need some more
practice at this CCD cleaning !! But I did it as per Thom Hogans
instructions - ie wipe across CCD face edge to edge - flip the swab
and wipe again. When you say apply more pressure to the sensor swab
  • what sensor swab are you using ? The ones that came with the
Eclipse fluid - or the Thom Hogan DIY plastic version ?? I have
only the Eclipse version but you can only apply so much pressure as
the edges are only pec-pads and they will bend.
Zorpie,

Don't take this the wrong way I want this not to be a damaged CCD
as much as you do but looking at your posted image there is still a
lot of dust on the sensor, I got this the first time i cleaned and
it was because i was afraid to press hard enough on the sensor with
the swab.

When I finaly applied about the same pressure as you would use to
write with a pen the dust came off, I know thats not a very
scientific explanation for pressure but its the best i can describe
it.

The two dark areas on your image still look to me like some kind of
dirt or smudge, the edges are very ragged and random and i would
have guessed a coating coming away would have a less jagged edge
also there are lots of smaller smudges near the big ones. Also if
it was a coating coming off I would think the area under the
coating would be lighter not darker than the good areas, which
again makes me think its some kind of contamination rather than
damage.

I might be totaly wrong but I am an optimistic type and until the
worst is proven I think its dirt.

Go on give it another clean.

Brian.
 
Annandale, VA. I am VERY pleased with ACE Photo. It's rare that you find a place which has such a high level of competence and stands behind their products.

Rich
Ace Photo has a compressed air hose they use to clean their film
processing equipment. It's filtered and dried. They set the camera
on bulb, remove the lens, press the shutter release, and hit CCD
with several puffs of pressurized air. I know because Moe cleaned
my D1X that way in front of me.

If you don't have an oil-free air compressor with filter and drier,
a hand bulb is the next best thing.

Duncan C

P.S we must be neighbors. Tell Mo I said hi.
-------------
So I asked them how they do it. They use a hand held squeeze bulb.
They also vehemently argue against can compressed air. The only
way to keep the can from spitting out liquid propellent is holding
it upright, a very difficult alignment for seeing what's going on
inside the camera. They talked me out of it; I bought the squeeze
bulb and the power pack to hold the mirror down. After this thread
I think I'll stick with my bulb or their free cleaning.

I don't know what to say about those folks who have successfully
cleaned their CCDs with pec pads and fluid. Maybe it's something
like using a microdrive. By that I mean you can clean with
fluid/or use a microdrive for years with no problem, however there
is an element of risk and the outcome of the failure mode is
catastrophic failure.

It would be useful to hear a technical explanation why using fluid
is dangerous.

Rich
My D100 was new in September of 2002. I don't change lenses that
often, and seem to have been 'dust-free' for a few months. However.
I noticed my first dust specks a few days ago, ordered some Pec
pads, cleaning swabs and Eclipse fluid. Could not clear the dust
specks completely only seemed to be shifting them around the CCD
surface. After about the use of 4 Pec pads and different 'styles'
of cleaning (at no time ever pressing hard on the CCD) I noticed
the appearance of a mark that would not shift. I tried more
cleaning - a fresh pec pad - the mark got bigger. It looks like
some sort of coating is coming off the CCD filter. So it looks like
the CCD filter is now damaged. But how - I do not know. At no time
did I ever apply excessive pressure - I did make the first time
mistake of too much Eclipse fluid on the pad and caused a few
smears - but I changed the pad and got rid of the smears. Looks
like I am now at the mercy of Nikon (UK) and the D100 will have to
go back. To those of you who haven't yet attempted a CCD clean - do
it at your own risk. I doubt if I will get away with a warranty
repair here. After all - Nikon say 'Don't clean the CCD' !! I've
probably invalidated the warranty by my actions. But how or why
this has happened - I do not know. I only ever used Eclipse fluid
and pec pads.
--
http://www.pbase.com/duncanc
 
just wondering if you were able to use a flash light and a magnifing glass to get a zoomed in view of your ccd then you might have a better idea of what happened, just a thought. I know everyone here is trying to figure out what is wrong or how to fix your problem, like one poster said it is easy for us to sit here and make suggestions. in anycase i hope iworks out and Nikon takes care of you.
My D100 was new in September of 2002. I don't change lenses that
often, and seem to have been 'dust-free' for a few months. However.
I noticed my first dust specks a few days ago, ordered some Pec
pads, cleaning swabs and Eclipse fluid. Could not clear the dust
specks completely only seemed to be shifting them around the CCD
surface. After about the use of 4 Pec pads and different 'styles'
of cleaning (at no time ever pressing hard on the CCD) I noticed
the appearance of a mark that would not shift. I tried more
cleaning - a fresh pec pad - the mark got bigger. It looks like
some sort of coating is coming off the CCD filter. So it looks like
the CCD filter is now damaged. But how - I do not know. At no time
did I ever apply excessive pressure - I did make the first time
mistake of too much Eclipse fluid on the pad and caused a few
smears - but I changed the pad and got rid of the smears. Looks
like I am now at the mercy of Nikon (UK) and the D100 will have to
go back. To those of you who haven't yet attempted a CCD clean - do
it at your own risk. I doubt if I will get away with a warranty
repair here. After all - Nikon say 'Don't clean the CCD' !! I've
probably invalidated the warranty by my actions. But how or why
this has happened - I do not know. I only ever used Eclipse fluid
and pec pads.
 
Zorpie,

Despite everyone's trying to help (that's what makes this such a great forum) you don't have many options. If it is a minor problem they might be able to clean it either for free or a nominal charge. The third possibility is it is trashed and that's that.

Trying to clean it again could push it into the third situation. If the contamination is in fact not dust there is no way of predicting how eclipse or methanol will affect it. There is too much uncertainty.

West Scotland eh? For my wife and me that's almost heaven. We were through your neck of the woods in May of last year. Of all of the U.K. Scotland has to be the most beautiful country. The farther the north the better. We ferried from Larne to Cairn Ryan (sp?) and visited Culzean Castle, Edinburgh, Stirling, Beauley, Loch Leven, Dunnotar, and stayed with friends in Nairn. Man I miss it!

Good luck and let us know how it works out. We're rooting for you.

Rich
Thanks again - your description was OK and I understood it fine.
What I don't want to do just now - is to apply any more cleaning
fluid to the CCD. I am frightened it will do more damage. The only
solution for me now - is to send the D100 back. I'll just have to
wait and see what Nikon (UK) have to say about it. Maybe I am the
eternal pessimist - but I have to say that I fear the worst !! It
just looks pretty bad from where I am sat at the moment !! Like
everyone else on this Forum - I just love my D100 - and want it
back in 100% shape. Whatever the problem is - I have absolutely NO
idea.

Thanks again anyway Brian.
I do not use the swabs, I only bought the Eclipse fluid and the pec
pads that come with it, I sort of used Thoms method but bought a
tool from an arts and craft shop which has a wedge shaped rubber
end the right size and shape to fit across the CCD and have enough
give in it so as not to do any danage. It allows me to safely apply
pressure but will bend if I apply too much I can now clean my
sensor with half a pec pad folded in two and wrapped round the end
of the rubber tool and secured with a rubber band, two drops of
eclipse on the pad and then press down and drawit across the sensor
one way the n turn it over and draw it back across the sensor the
other way.

The trick I found was not being afraid to apply a little pressure,
you can not frighten the dust off you have to wipe it off.

I hope you can understand my description.

Its easy for me to sit here and tell you to press harder, I know
its not easy for you to stay cool and not think the worst, I hope
it works out for you.

Regards.

Brian.
Thanks for your input. The photo of the CCD - is a photo of a piece
of white paper illuminated with a tungsten lamp. When you look at
the CCD itself - the (damaged) area IS lighter than the remainder
(good part) of the CCD. Take a look at the other photo of the CCD
itself. You are right about the rest of the dust specks. No matter
what I did - I could not rid them off the CCD !! I need some more
practice at this CCD cleaning !! But I did it as per Thom Hogans
instructions - ie wipe across CCD face edge to edge - flip the swab
and wipe again. When you say apply more pressure to the sensor swab
  • what sensor swab are you using ? The ones that came with the
Eclipse fluid - or the Thom Hogan DIY plastic version ?? I have
only the Eclipse version but you can only apply so much pressure as
the edges are only pec-pads and they will bend.
Zorpie,

Don't take this the wrong way I want this not to be a damaged CCD
as much as you do but looking at your posted image there is still a
lot of dust on the sensor, I got this the first time i cleaned and
it was because i was afraid to press hard enough on the sensor with
the swab.

When I finaly applied about the same pressure as you would use to
write with a pen the dust came off, I know thats not a very
scientific explanation for pressure but its the best i can describe
it.

The two dark areas on your image still look to me like some kind of
dirt or smudge, the edges are very ragged and random and i would
have guessed a coating coming away would have a less jagged edge
also there are lots of smaller smudges near the big ones. Also if
it was a coating coming off I would think the area under the
coating would be lighter not darker than the good areas, which
again makes me think its some kind of contamination rather than
damage.

I might be totaly wrong but I am an optimistic type and until the
worst is proven I think its dirt.

Go on give it another clean.

Brian.
 
Wow. Hope the news is not as bas as you feel it may be.
I have a friend who works for a major newspaper. He uses 2 D1's. He
claims he "lives on the edge" by cleaning his ccd with canned air!
says he wouldn't ever attempt the pec pads. I find that
interesting. I have tried the pads and solution.. both times were a
disaster. I fully expected Nikon to tell me I ruined the ccd and
each time the camera came back..small charge for cleaning (A D1X ).
So maybe it's not as bad as it looks. I hope so.
I worked in High Tech for 20 years. THe first time I saw the story about liquid on the CCD I though I was having a nightmare. It is one of the stupidest thing that people can do. I travel with my D100 and a small can of compressed air. It works like a charm. Clearly I don't blow 2mm from the CCD, I blow gently, far enough, making sure that no freezing stuff freeze my CCD. So far only successful cleanings. Stay away from this idiotic CCD washing.

Regards
Gabriele

Regards
Gabriele Sartori
 
I discussed this with the photo shop personnel where I purchased my
D100. A asked about Pec Pads and they said, almost simultaneously
"You aren't going to clean your CCD with any fluid, are you?" The
shop is, I think, the premier Nikon shop in northern Virginia (Ace
Photo). They clean my CCD any time I bring it in.

So I asked them how they do it. They use a hand held squeeze bulb.
Took me a long time to find this place, I bought several of them, it works!

http://www.micro-tools.com/Merchant2/handtool.htm

Select part# BLO-666-00 (3rd item).

Those thingy at the photo store with the brush are just too wimpy. Canned air has its shortcomings.

And yet, I did use it to clean my CCD. But I wonder would a vaccum cleaner help...

--
JR
 
Thanks. Think I'll try one.
I discussed this with the photo shop personnel where I purchased my
D100. A asked about Pec Pads and they said, almost simultaneously
"You aren't going to clean your CCD with any fluid, are you?" The
shop is, I think, the premier Nikon shop in northern Virginia (Ace
Photo). They clean my CCD any time I bring it in.

So I asked them how they do it. They use a hand held squeeze bulb.
Took me a long time to find this place, I bought several of them,
it works!

http://www.micro-tools.com/Merchant2/handtool.htm

Select part# BLO-666-00 (3rd item).

Those thingy at the photo store with the brush are just too wimpy.
Canned air has its shortcomings.

And yet, I did use it to clean my CCD. But I wonder would a vaccum
cleaner help...

--
JR
 
Howdy neighbors!

I live in Leesburg and bought my D100 and a couple lenses from ACE photo.

I love those guys.

I've had Mo clean my CCD twice.. He emphasized that you should never, under any circumstances touch the CCD with anything. He has a bunch of coiled yellow air hoses hanging from the ceiling in his printing area. He blew some filtered compressed air on mine and both times all it did was blow the dust around to another part of the CCD... Of course, I didn't discover this til I got home...

I'm going to purchase one of those hand bulb blowers and see what happens.

m
Rich
Ace Photo has a compressed air hose they use to clean their film
processing equipment. It's filtered and dried. They set the camera
on bulb, remove the lens, press the shutter release, and hit CCD
with several puffs of pressurized air. I know because Moe cleaned
my D1X that way in front of me.

If you don't have an oil-free air compressor with filter and drier,
a hand bulb is the next best thing.

Duncan C

P.S we must be neighbors. Tell Mo I said hi.
-------------
So I asked them how they do it. They use a hand held squeeze bulb.
They also vehemently argue against can compressed air. The only
way to keep the can from spitting out liquid propellent is holding
it upright, a very difficult alignment for seeing what's going on
inside the camera. They talked me out of it; I bought the squeeze
bulb and the power pack to hold the mirror down. After this thread
I think I'll stick with my bulb or their free cleaning.

I don't know what to say about those folks who have successfully
cleaned their CCDs with pec pads and fluid. Maybe it's something
like using a microdrive. By that I mean you can clean with
fluid/or use a microdrive for years with no problem, however there
is an element of risk and the outcome of the failure mode is
catastrophic failure.

It would be useful to hear a technical explanation why using fluid
is dangerous.

Rich
My D100 was new in September of 2002. I don't change lenses that
often, and seem to have been 'dust-free' for a few months. However.
I noticed my first dust specks a few days ago, ordered some Pec
pads, cleaning swabs and Eclipse fluid. Could not clear the dust
specks completely only seemed to be shifting them around the CCD
surface. After about the use of 4 Pec pads and different 'styles'
of cleaning (at no time ever pressing hard on the CCD) I noticed
the appearance of a mark that would not shift. I tried more
cleaning - a fresh pec pad - the mark got bigger. It looks like
some sort of coating is coming off the CCD filter. So it looks like
the CCD filter is now damaged. But how - I do not know. At no time
did I ever apply excessive pressure - I did make the first time
mistake of too much Eclipse fluid on the pad and caused a few
smears - but I changed the pad and got rid of the smears. Looks
like I am now at the mercy of Nikon (UK) and the D100 will have to
go back. To those of you who haven't yet attempted a CCD clean - do
it at your own risk. I doubt if I will get away with a warranty
repair here. After all - Nikon say 'Don't clean the CCD' !! I've
probably invalidated the warranty by my actions. But how or why
this has happened - I do not know. I only ever used Eclipse fluid
and pec pads.
--
http://www.pbase.com/duncanc
 
I read thru the thread and looked at all of the photos.

It is hard to say from the photos if the coating has flaked off or not...

Bit it almost looks like from the photo that perhap there was a pinhole in the filter and if you cleaned with a very wet swap perhaps the liquid got in under the filter (between CCD and filter) and then dried.

--

It reminds me of my F5 a few years back.. I was at the Indy 500 and it was raining... And raining a lot :-( My F5 was in a bag, protected (I thought).

Later when I got home I unpacked the camera.. It was dry, but the bag was soaked... I thought the bag had done its job. Later after I got home from the trip, I noticed the focus screen of the F5 was not clear (it sorta looked like your photo). I concluded that the inside of the bag was very humid and it got between the layers of the focus screen. A replacement was ordered and problem solved.

--

After I had owned my D100 for about a month I noticed some spots on my focus screen this was at the same time the firmeware update for 1.0 to 1.1 was happening so I sent in the camera to Nikon and asked them to update the firmware and clean the CCD. They updated the firmware and the camera came back with the same spots :-(

I sent it back again and they replaced the CCD... The camera was not gone very long. Looks like the designed the D-100 CCD replacement to be pretty easy and quick. I do not think it will be too expensive.

--

Good luck

Phil
 
I tried blowing out dust off my Canon 1D sensor, and there were some large specks I couldn't budge so I naively and stupidly tried to dab it off with a new lens cleaning cloth. What I got was what looked like a dozen or so black streaks that would not go away. I immediately raced to Samy's and got the whole Eclipse/Sensor pad cleaning combo and carefully tried swiping the streaks out. I applied moderate pressure and swiped it about six or seven times. The black debris went away, but the streaks stubbornly remained, looking more white than black. I took it into Samy's repair and the guy set my camera to "bulb" mode, looked down at the sensor and immediately told me it was scratched, and that it would take them up to 10 days to ship it off to Canon. I decided to drive to Canon, Irvine myself.

The lady at the Canon repair counter showed my camera to a repair technician who confirmed the CCD was scratched. The repair estimate - $1800! The lady sensed my despair and suggested I return in an hour to show my 1D to a tech who actually repairs them. I returned after lunch and another Canon rep took my camera to an actual 1D technician. A short moment later the tech walked out to the counter, handed my 1D over to me and said it was clean. I looked at him in utter amazement and asked him how he was able to get the streaks out, and he said "we have ways". I guess it's a company secret, but I'm sure glad he was successful. He also told me that if it really had been scratched, the cost of the repair would have been about $500 for the anti-aliasing filter plus labor. Whew, what a huge relief!

Hopefully, your situation will turn out as well as mine did. Either way, if your sensor or filter is shedding its coating, I would insist on having the repair covered by warranty. I don't believe they are normally that fragile.

Best of luck,
David
 
Hi Zorpie,

Same problem happened to me too. When I saw some dust spots on my photo, I tried to clean the ccd. And guest what? I saw a bright green spot on my photo, happen at all shutter speed, something like dead pixel (I believe I've damaged the ccd filter). Well, I should have returned it to nikon for cleaning, instead of trying to clean it myself. Stupid me!

Now I am back with my film slr, while waiting some good news from nikon service center. Guess I have damaged the ccd. Wonder if nikon will replace it for free or charge me a new ccd. Damn digital!

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F80/MB16 + AFS 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G, AF 50mm f/1.8D, Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6LD Macro, SB-50DX
 
Maybe they use jut a good clean METHANOL

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as was somewhere suggested
I'd guess they use Eclips like the rest of us (wouldn't you?)

kind regards
jono slack
I'd guess that they do it like the rest of us - from my experience
it's just a knack getting it right - in clean conditions, with a
good weapon to wrap the 'cloth' around (I use a cut down credit
card).

kind regards
jono slack
Keeping your fingers crossed will never hurt, but expect the best
turnout.

Regards,
Trent
My D100 was new in September of 2002. I don't change lenses that
often, and seem to have been 'dust-free' for a few months. However.
I noticed my first dust specks a few days ago, ordered some Pec
pads, cleaning swabs and Eclipse fluid. Could not clear the dust
specks completely only seemed to be shifting them around the CCD
surface. After about the use of 4 Pec pads and different 'styles'
of cleaning (at no time ever pressing hard on the CCD) I noticed
the appearance of a mark that would not shift. I tried more
cleaning - a fresh pec pad - the mark got bigger. It looks like
some sort of coating is coming off the CCD filter. So it looks like
the CCD filter is now damaged. But how - I do not know. At no time
did I ever apply excessive pressure - I did make the first time
mistake of too much Eclipse fluid on the pad and caused a few
smears - but I changed the pad and got rid of the smears. Looks
like I am now at the mercy of Nikon (UK) and the D100 will have to
go back. To those of you who haven't yet attempted a CCD clean - do
it at your own risk. I doubt if I will get away with a warranty
repair here. After all - Nikon say 'Don't clean the CCD' !! I've
probably invalidated the warranty by my actions. But how or why
this has happened - I do not know. I only ever used Eclipse fluid
and pec pads.
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Jono Slack
http://www.slack.co.uk
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Jono Slack
http://www.slack.co.uk
 
Just a thought,

I have only had my D100 2 months and don't have any dust yet, so I don't know what I'll be facing but, Has anyone thought of using a vacuum cleaner being careful not to touch the CCD.
This could be down sized to something like a ballpoint pen tube for easier use.
As I said just a thought.
Regards
Lee.
 
Hi Phillip,

That's a good theory about a pinhole in the filter, but I have never heard of it before. I don't know what gap there is between filter and CCD or if it would be possible for Eclipse fluid to get between the two during the course of normal cleaning. If that was an issue, then this would have happened to someone else before now I am sure. I can do nothing until tomorrow now (Monday) anyway so it is a case of just sitting tight and trying not to worry about it !! (But I do !!) I have been waiting on an EH-5 AC adaptor for 3 months now and I use the 'bulb' setting with my finger on the shutter to hold the shutter open. What I don't understand - is that Nikon appear to use a liquid cleaner (from other comments on this, and other threads) yet it is not OK for the user to carry out this procedure ? Am I expected to sit with dust on my CCD for 3 months whilst they deliver my EH-5 ? No - I guess I should have sent it away - then I wouldn't be where I am now !! The obvious statement in the manual about not touching the CCD is their cover to prevent this sort of thing happening I guess - and I cannot deny that I have used a cleaning liquid. It is obvious that this damage has not occurred through 'normal' use and that something has come into contact with the CCD filter. Thus my fears about my warranty being invalidated by my actions.
I read thru the thread and looked at all of the photos.

It is hard to say from the photos if the coating has flaked off or
not...

Bit it almost looks like from the photo that perhap there was a
pinhole in the filter and if you cleaned with a very wet swap
perhaps the liquid got in under the filter (between CCD and filter)
and then dried.

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It reminds me of my F5 a few years back.. I was at the Indy 500 and
it was raining... And raining a lot :-( My F5 was in a bag,
protected (I thought).

Later when I got home I unpacked the camera.. It was dry, but the
bag was soaked... I thought the bag had done its job. Later
after I got home from the trip, I noticed the focus screen of the
F5 was not clear (it sorta looked like your photo). I concluded
that the inside of the bag was very humid and it got between the
layers of the focus screen. A replacement was ordered and problem
solved.

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After I had owned my D100 for about a month I noticed some spots on
my focus screen this was at the same time the firmeware update for
1.0 to 1.1 was happening so I sent in the camera to Nikon and asked
them to update the firmware and clean the CCD. They updated the
firmware and the camera came back with the same spots :-(

I sent it back again and they replaced the CCD... The camera was
not gone very long. Looks like the designed the D-100 CCD
replacement to be pretty easy and quick. I do not think it will be
too expensive.

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Good luck

Phil
 
Just a thought,
I have only had my D100 2 months and don't have any dust yet, so I
don't know what I'll be facing but, Has anyone thought of using a
vacuum cleaner being careful not to touch the CCD.
This could be down sized to something like a ballpoint pen tube for
easier use.
As I said just a thought.
Regards
Lee.
I know I minght not have a Nikon Digital (but almost!) My Fuji S1 & S2 both have some "unmoveable" seemingly permanant "U.P.O's"(Unidentfied Photographic Objects),as much as I use my units, and change lenses in the cruddyest of conditions its no wonder. But the Sensor Swab system that Fuji recommends and is pretty widely available seems to do the trick for the most part.I do have some dust bunnys that I have given up on and just given them names!!!TAE.
 

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