Anyone got D800 focus issue fixed by Nikon USA

I warned you guys many weeks ago. See the Guinea Pig thread.

Gosman
 
By the way . . . kudos to the OP of this thread . . . "Re: Anyone got D800 focus issue fixed by Nikon USA?" Because, that's one g*ddamned, f*cking good question.
 
In favor of a class action lawsuit. Nikon sold us a defective product and needs to be held accountable.
I'm certainly not in favor of any legal action, or any damages awarded (I know, many of you are out shipping and insurance fees) which could further cripple an already strained manufacturer. I'm only interested in Nikon resolving the issue as fast as possible, and developing a standardized repair procedure to be distributed among its worldwide service centers ASAP.
 
Here's my totally uneducated guess on what's really happening:

Nikon may have had an problem in a single FX assembly line, affecting initial runs of both D4 and D800/e bodies, and in particular, their AF assemblies. These affected units are scattered among US serial numbers, at least ranging from 3000XXX through 3007XXXX, as seen by reported SNs here. This may have been the pre-release inventory build for the initial product run, totaling approximately two-months of production, prior to launch.

Since the majority of these pre-launch bodies sat in a warehouse as the production line got up to speed, awaiting their official launch date, the bodies didn't see customers' hands for a few months. (It's difficult to explain, however, how their statistical sampling process [QA] missed this problem, unless they don't even test for this specific issue, which is more likely, if the QA is based on manufacturing tolerances alone). So, since the bodies remained in a static state in the distribution channel, no customers were available to "beta test" for this issue. My guess is that the number of affected bodies may run well into the thousands. And, that's why Nikon's silent on the subject--it's a brand-destroying marketing mess.

I think Nikon is quietly administering repair procedures (but why so selectively is a mystery), which are effective at resolving the problem, and is currently dealing with the logistics of communicating the correct procedure to its service centers, worldwide. The equipment, "special cable" for connecting the D800 to the calibration computer, as well as specific written procedures on how to diagnose and resolve the problem, all needs to be produced, acquired, shipped, and communicated to each service center. There may also be some internal friction causing some delay. Other than that, I haven't a clue why the repair process has been so uneven and disorganized up to this point.
 
Seems the ones in Europe may getting the AF fix handled faster than the USA, but they also got the cameras far before they hit the USA shores too. No doubt the correct repair methods may take a while to get to the USA and finally settle in amongst their techs. Melville should be the first to get on board, and then maybe El Segundo. Once they get a flood of them, someone might finally read the "How to fix this issue" memo. Might be sitting on a secretary's desk right now to be handed-off. Could even be in Japanese too awaiting for someone to translate it (Like that's never happened that I've seen!).

Mack
 
In favor of a class action lawsuit. Nikon sold us a defective product and needs to be held accountable.
I'm certainly not in favor of any legal action, or any damages awarded (I know, many of you are out shipping and insurance fees) which could further cripple an already strained manufacturer. I'm only interested in Nikon resolving the issue as fast as possible, and developing a standardized repair procedure to be distributed among its worldwide service centers ASAP.
Strained manufacturers are the ones who would benefit from getting out in front of an issue like this. I work in PR and Nikon has broken every rule in the book by remaining so silent. For such a small number of affected cameras, they've done substantial irreparable harm to their brand in just a few months.

Canon has apparently learned their lesson and immediately took on the light leak issue and offered a quick fix. The light leak topics have all but dissapeared now yet the D800 QC issues still dominate the forum. Nikon needs to address this QC perception quickly and decisively IMO.

Sal
 
Couple things to consider:

1. You have the option to return your camera. The more people to cling to their cameras rather than return them AND not repurchase, the less likely Nikon is going to do about it. I realize it may cost money to ship back, but it was your choice to buy online/indirectly. Caveat emptor. (of course, for those without local dealers you don't have that choice and that stinks)

2. We are the minority, and a very small one. Most people don't even know these forums exist or choose not to spend time up here. Go into any camera store or call B&H, and ask them about the camera and ask if they are any problems with it. I'll bet you they don't mention any of the known ones, except maybe the lock up.

For what it's worth, I returned 2 D800s and told my dealer not to get me another for now. I'm waiting to see if these issues go away over time and to see if there really is a D600. If not, I plan to sell out of Nikon and move to a 5DMIII.
In favor of a class action lawsuit. Nikon sold us a defective product and needs to be held accountable.
I'm certainly not in favor of any legal action, or any damages awarded (I know, many of you are out shipping and insurance fees) which could further cripple an already strained manufacturer. I'm only interested in Nikon resolving the issue as fast as possible, and developing a standardized repair procedure to be distributed among its worldwide service centers ASAP.
Strained manufacturers are the ones who would benefit from getting out in front of an issue like this. I work in PR and Nikon has broken every rule in the book by remaining so silent. For such a small number of affected cameras, they've done substantial irreparable harm to their brand in just a few months.

Canon has apparently learned their lesson and immediately took on the light leak issue and offered a quick fix. The light leak topics have all but dissapeared now yet the D800 QC issues still dominate the forum. Nikon needs to address this QC perception quickly and decisively IMO.

Sal
 
Strained manufacturers are the ones who would benefit from getting out in front of an issue like this. I work in PR and Nikon has broken every rule in the book by remaining so silent. For such a small number of affected cameras, they've done substantial irreparable harm to their brand in just a few months.
I agree, but, how do you know it's a "such a small number" of affected cameras? It could be several thousand. A recall could be devastating. I agree, it's a PR disaster (I wrote a few press releases myself in my day), but the alternative may simply be cost-prohibitive (even if the eventual damage to the brand costs them even more).
 
You are right. Most people are using their D800s and will not even be aware of the left focus issue. Many of us old timers use a semi manual focus technique anyway. But this is the reason I have warned people to wait to buy new products and not rush out there to be the first one on the block with a new toy. When you spend $3000, you expect the camera to perform per the spec- even if you don't use the crutch auto systems! I will continue to wait and see how you guys resolve these issues.
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Gosman
 
Future resale values of these bodies (D800, D4) are very suspicious after this time...
Here's my totally uneducated guess on what's really happening:

Nikon may have had an problem in a single FX assembly line, affecting initial runs of both D4 and D800/e bodies, and in particular, their AF assemblies. These affected units are scattered among US serial numbers, at least ranging from 3000XXX through 3007XXXX, as seen by reported SNs here. This may have been the pre-release inventory build for the initial product run, totaling approximately two-months of production, prior to launch.

Since the majority of these pre-launch bodies sat in a warehouse as the production line got up to speed, awaiting their official launch date, the bodies didn't see customers' hands for a few months. (It's difficult to explain, however, how their statistical sampling process [QA] missed this problem, unless they don't even test for this specific issue, which is more likely, if the QA is based on manufacturing tolerances alone). So, since the bodies remained in a static state in the distribution channel, no customers were available to "beta test" for this issue. My guess is that the number of affected bodies may run well into the thousands. And, that's why Nikon's silent on the subject--it's a brand-destroying marketing mess.

I think Nikon is quietly administering repair procedures (but why so selectively is a mystery), which are effective at resolving the problem, and is currently dealing with the logistics of communicating the correct procedure to its service centers, worldwide. The equipment, "special cable" for connecting the D800 to the calibration computer, as well as specific written procedures on how to diagnose and resolve the problem, all needs to be produced, acquired, shipped, and communicated to each service center. There may also be some internal friction causing some delay. Other than that, I haven't a clue why the repair process has been so uneven and disorganized up to this point.
 
Or maybe they did uncover the issue, in thousands of bodies already manufactured pre-launch. So they wondered - what are we going to do? Fixing all of them? That would mean a long delay. Sending them to the landfill? All that money lost. So why not release them, with the issue, but at a lower price than we had planned. At $3000, there will be such a frenzy over this camera that many people will not notice such minor issue. Then later, once the good bodies hit the shelf, we can still raise the price then. Well ok let's raise the price in the UK already, people are less likely to complain there...

Of course I'm kidding. Kind of.
Here's my totally uneducated guess on what's really happening:

Nikon may have had an problem in a single FX assembly line, affecting initial runs of both D4 and D800/e bodies, and in particular, their AF assemblies. These affected units are scattered among US serial numbers, at least ranging from 3000XXX through 3007XXXX, as seen by reported SNs here. This may have been the pre-release inventory build for the initial product run, totaling approximately two-months of production, prior to launch.

Since the majority of these pre-launch bodies sat in a warehouse as the production line got up to speed, awaiting their official launch date, the bodies didn't see customers' hands for a few months. (It's difficult to explain, however, how their statistical sampling process [QA] missed this problem, unless they don't even test for this specific issue, which is more likely, if the QA is based on manufacturing tolerances alone). So, since the bodies remained in a static state in the distribution channel, no customers were available to "beta test" for this issue. My guess is that the number of affected bodies may run well into the thousands. And, that's why Nikon's silent on the subject--it's a brand-destroying marketing mess.

I think Nikon is quietly administering repair procedures (but why so selectively is a mystery), which are effective at resolving the problem, and is currently dealing with the logistics of communicating the correct procedure to its service centers, worldwide. The equipment, "special cable" for connecting the D800 to the calibration computer, as well as specific written procedures on how to diagnose and resolve the problem, all needs to be produced, acquired, shipped, and communicated to each service center. There may also be some internal friction causing some delay. Other than that, I haven't a clue why the repair process has been so uneven and disorganized up to this point.
 
I dropped mine off today in El Segundo. Fingers crossed. I was told 7-10 business days. Will update with results.
That will be be most helpful, thanks!
 
I'm not in the USA but Australia
Took my d800 to an Authorized service centre on the 7th

Got a phone call today telling me that they realigned the focus points BUT it has not solved the problem.
They said the camera has been improved but they can't get consistent results.

I've been told that they have contacted Nikon and are waiting for Nikon to advise them what to do next.

When i first dropped the camera off i was told that they are waiting for a software kit from Nikon which they received on the 9th to deal with the problem, obviously that has not worked.

I have contacted my supplier explaining the situation and have asked for an exchange...will wait and see what happens
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"They said the camera has been improved but they can't get consistent results."

Wow! Not exactly what you want to hear from Nikon on a brand new camera!
 
did you drop it off at Camera Clinic with a 24-70 attached? on the 7th? and bought it in queensland?

Think I was there that same time Picking up my D7000
 
Got a phone call today telling me that they realigned the focus points BUT it has not solved the problem . . . I've been told that they have contacted Nikon and are waiting for Nikon to advise them what to do next.
Holy cow! Well, that's not good. Nikon doesn't know what to do! This must be bad. I mean, BAD. Man-o-man, this doesn't sound good at all, does it? This is extremely distressing. I just hope to hell I'll be lucky enough to receive a non-affected body. Thank you very much for reporting this!
 

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