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C2100UZ---What's so special about the UZI?

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James,

You don't have to answer, I did a forum search and found what I was looking for. Thank you for your time.

Brendon.
Brendon Anderson said:
I see that you have a c-180. How would you rate the picture
quality through the full range of zoom when matched up with the
c2100. Thanks in advance.

Brendon
James C. Whiteside III said:
When using the Tl-55 and the TCON-14B, your right both give good
usable zoom. I would rate both at around 60-55% actually. The 14B
may be just a hair more. Though the TCON-14 and the A-200 do cut
off around the 50% mark.

Though I find with my B-300, I get around 28% give or take
depending on which stepup ring I am using. Thats a little more than
a LITTLE USABLE ZOOM. And you right you may have got that shot
witht the 55 or 14B, but when that little bird flew 10' to a close
bush, then you would have been tring to grab the B-300 or the
C-210. Thats way usable zoom and power together is a big issuse.
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Olympus C-2100
Canon TL-55(1.4X),B-300,TCON-14, A-200, C-180,
C-210 & Adorama 2X Teleconverter (Junk)
If they make it, I STACK-IT
Dreaming about a TCON-300
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I use the C-180 for stacking purposes. It was actually one of the first lens I ever bought. Over all its a decent lens for stacking, since its made like a can. So you can easily add threads to the end.

I did find that the C-180 gives some CA, but not as bad as the A-200. Its not as sharp as I would like. It does not give bad vinigation, more like dark corners. I actually only get 2 dark corners. Though I really dont use this lens any more except for stacking purposes

This is a test shot I did a few weeks ago. As you can see its not that bad, but at the bottom there the CA shows up. If I get a chance I will try to get a link up with some comparisons with other lens. Sorry I dont have one on the same day to compair with the B-300.

I got mine for around $40 on ebay. At that price its a good 1.7X lens, but I would not pay much since there are better lens in that catagory. Though many think its a light rober, I found that I lose very little light with it.



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Olympus C-2100
Canon TL-55(1.4X),B-300,TCON-14, A-200, C-180,
C-210 & Adorama 2X Teleconverter (Junk)
If they make it, I STACK-IT
Dreaming about a TCON-300
 
'UZ'pShoot'ERS' said:
The A-200 & Evidently the TL-55 have quite a bit more Uzable Uzi
Zoom probably somewhere close to being able to pan back maybe 1/2
of the Uzi's
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I've come to the conclusion that the more a zoom at the lense's filter size or slightly smaller allows to zoom back, the more probs you'll have with infinity focussing, the A200 on the UZI seems to bear this out, (the TCON14B is 62mm so that's a different matter).. I get almost full zoomback on the 75-300IS with the B300 and it won't Infinity-Focus - I get almost none with the 80-200 and it's perfect with the B300.. Maybe coincidence but it seems to follow so far

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James C. Whiteside III said:
The tiffin is a decent lens if your using a smaller zoom camera
like 3X or close, but it will not work on the C-2100. It just can
not handle the C-2100 zoom which is already 10X

As for the B-300, I think you will be happy. Its good to by one of
the best first and then add on. Were most seem to start at the
bottom and later own get better stuff.

I know this lens testing it EXPENSIVE. I could probally have a New
Nikon 8X or used D30 for what I have put into extrea lens. Though
most of the ones I did not liked I moved on, but its hard to get
your money back on them unless its a GOOD lens or you got it at a
good buy to begin with.
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Olympus C-2100
Canon TL-55(1.4X),B-300,TCON-14, A-200, C-180,
C-210 & Adorama 2X Teleconverter (Junk)
If they make it, I STACK-IT
Dreaming about a TCON-300
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Stinson
C2100,C-2020, D-40, PS6
http://www3.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=64739
http://www.pbase.com/stinson


 
Thanks for the input. I will check out buydig.com.
breezy p said:
D550( Europe# 300z)- compact point and shoot 2.8x-3mp-under$300
C4000-a little larger- all the manual bells and
whistles-3x-4mp-under$400
D-40-smallest, 4mp, full feature, 3x-4mp, $400+ My daughter loves it)

All have very good user reviews. Indicated prices from buydig.com
and if he is really into this get him a factory refurbed Uzi, he
will thank you for ever.
Frank B from AZ said:
There is a C2100UZ, new in box, on Ebay and the current bid is
$620. (go to item # 1948741903 if you don't believe me). Why
would anyone want to pay 600 bucks plus for a 2.1 megapixal camera?
I see it's got a good zoom lens but 600 bucks? C5050s and even
some E10s are going in that range on Ebay. What's so special about
this camera?

PS. I am looking for a cheaper 2 mp camera for my stepson in
college. That's how I came across this. Any suggestions?

Frank from Phoenix
Olympus E20N; C5050; FL40; LiPo; Pentax MZ-S
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Frank from Phoenix
Olympus E20N; C5050; FL40; LiPo; Pentax MZ-S
 
Alexandre Trindade said:
What about the new Panasonic DMC-FZ1? It has a Leica 12 optical
zoom with IS. Will it become the successor to the UZI?
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Yeah,I've heard about that camera and it seems to be a very interesting camera. Though Panasonic uses Leica lens,they are not recognized as a camera maker so we don't know how good DMC-FZ1 is. When you think about how long did it take Sony to be taken seriously as a digital camera maker,I just simply can not say,"it must be good". Though I hope it is! :)

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Brendon,

Have you bought from this site before? They have some amazing prices on new equipment (a lot of it is ReFur but some are new), like 840.00 for an E20N and 318.00 for the C4000.

Kirk
Brendon Anderson said:
Good luck on finding your 2mp camera.
Brendon
Frank B from AZ said:
There is a C2100UZ, new in box, on Ebay and the current bid is
$620. (go to item # 1948741903 if you don't believe me). Why
would anyone want to pay 600 bucks plus for a 2.1 megapixal camera?
I see it's got a good zoom lens but 600 bucks? C5050s and even
some E10s are going in that range on Ebay. What's so special about
this camera?

PS. I am looking for a cheaper 2 mp camera for my stepson in
college. That's how I came across this. Any suggestions?

Frank from Phoenix
Olympus E20N; C5050; FL40; LiPo; Pentax MZ-S
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On the last sunday of the year 2002, I went to a " http://www.belgiumdigital.com day". It's just a shooting day of some friends that hang around on the BD forum.

I saw a lot of different camera's: A fex D60's , a D1, a Minolta 7Hi, an Nikon CP5700, a G3, ...all high MP-type camera's.

But there were also a few low-MP camera's: some C2100's ("UZI's") and one Canon Pro90IS (which has the same lens as the UZi).

You can draw your own conclusions, but to me that means that high MP is not everything. A stabilized 38-380mm lens is worth a lot as well.

Ciao,

J.

PS. Don't want to start a war, but... I also noticed something else: there were more than 50 participants on that shooting day in Maastricht and ...nobody had a Sony. Coincidence?
 
Those are what's so special about the 2100. It's really an amazing camera, that can get images that would be difficult or impossible with other digicams, and does a good job at most of them. It's very sharp, has good color, tremendous reach, and acts like an SLR in a lot of ways. People really appreciate the IS function, the wide-range zoom lens, the bright aperture considering the zoom, the TTL electronic viewfinder, and the threaded lens ... all these features make the camera fun to use.

The camera isn't perfect, of course, but none is, and it has strengths that very few other digicams have. The megapixel count can be a limitation, but the lens helps balance it -- you can crop your images perfectly before you open the shutter, and not have to throw away pixels after the fact in Photoshop. I found that two megapixels ( or even less ) is plenty enough for web or email sized images, and with good focus, exposure, composition and the right subject, they'll make an outstanding 8x10 print.

I think that's why people still love a 2 mpx camera, and why it still sells. Most people just don't want/need to print larger than 8x10 very often, and probably not even that big. Yesterday's resolution cameras can do this fine, and some of the newer, higher-res cameras are also noisier and have more chromatic abberations ... so the best of the old school isn't that far behind. ( I think this is why Canon's D30 and Nikon's D1 still command commas in their price tags... )

See if you can guess which is the 2100 image, and which is the D60 and EF 50/1.4 image:





I had to do some Photoshop fixing-up for both images...
 
OK,

I'll hazard a guess..I think the photo of the stairway is the UZI picture. Am I right? Pretty amazing that I am not sure really which one it is given the huge difference in cost and MP of these cameras. The street scene just has that buttery smooth Canon CMOS look to me.

I am a recent UZI owner as I have picked up a used UZI for only $150! (With 128 Meg SM card, UV filter, and a lowpro bag) Although I have yet to find that good of a deal again, I do regularly see used UZIs going for about $300 here in Japan. One store had a whole shelf full of them. There were also some E100's.

I also shoot with an E-10, and there are many times where the UZI will get a shot that the E-10 could only dream of getting. I have absolutely falen in,ove with that monster IS zoom.

I am convinced that the UZI is one of the best overall fun and capable cameras out there. Even with 2 MP, it is ranked very high in my book.

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Thats an excellent price, but the fine prints say that is a refurb and it maybe an open box with missing parts. I don't know if I want to take a chance on that, and solutions4digital.com did not come up at http://www.resellersrating.com to check out customer's ratings on them.

price sounds too good to be true.
Brendon Anderson said:
Good luck on finding your 2mp camera.
Brendon
Frank B from AZ said:
There is a C2100UZ, new in box, on Ebay and the current bid is
$620. (go to item # 1948741903 if you don't believe me). Why
would anyone want to pay 600 bucks plus for a 2.1 megapixal camera?
I see it's got a good zoom lens but 600 bucks? C5050s and even
some E10s are going in that range on Ebay. What's so special about
this camera?

PS. I am looking for a cheaper 2 mp camera for my stepson in
college. That's how I came across this. Any suggestions?

Frank from Phoenix
Olympus E20N; C5050; FL40; LiPo; Pentax MZ-S
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Olympus C-4000Z
 
The camera is a classic. If you went through the last thousand or so "Pictures of the Day" from the various sites, I bet you'd find the 2100 accounts for a disproportionate share of them. If Oly was still making this camera, I'd buy another just to keep in reserve. It's that good.
jeff laitila said:
OK,

I'll hazard a guess..I think the photo of the stairway is the UZI
picture. Am I right? Pretty amazing that I am not sure really
which one it is given the huge difference in cost and MP of these
cameras. The street scene just has that buttery smooth Canon CMOS
look to me.

I am a recent UZI owner as I have picked up a used UZI for only
$150! (With 128 Meg SM card, UV filter, and a lowpro bag)
Although I have yet to find that good of a deal again, I do
regularly see used UZIs going for about $300 here in Japan. One
store had a whole shelf full of them. There were also some E100's.

I also shoot with an E-10, and there are many times where the UZI
will get a shot that the E-10 could only dream of getting. I have
absolutely falen in,ove with that monster IS zoom.

I am convinced that the UZI is one of the best overall fun and
capable cameras out there. Even with 2 MP, it is ranked very high
in my book.

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http://www.sushicam.com
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http://www.pbase.com/davek/
 
Jeff Laitila57576 said:
I'll hazard a guess..I think the photo of the stairway is the UZI
picture. Am I right? Pretty amazing that I am not sure really
which one it is given the huge difference in cost and MP of these
cameras. The street scene just has that buttery smooth Canon CMOS
look to me.
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Great guess! Neither one of them is as clean ( noise-free ) as the camera is capable of. I underexposed the D60 shot horribly; it should have been a 15 to 20 second exposure, and I choose 4 instead ( f/11 ). First night with a new camera; I goofed. So it was dark, and I had to do a lot of curves work. The Uzi photo was up near it's limit at 8 seconds ( f/2.8 ), and still dark. I did a lot of careful curves, a dark-frame subtraction, and removed plenty of hot-pixels. The point is that neither ( no ) beast is perfect, but if you can work around their issues, any good digicam can give you impressive results.

Of course, it also depends a good deal on target size. I would feel comfortable printing the D60 and 50/1.4 shot up to 16x20 or so, while I get very good prints at 8x10 from the Uzi photo, and wouldn't try to print it much larger. But reducing the photos down for the web hides most of the flaws, and you weren't sure which camera made which image. If you plan on making smallish ( up to 8x10 with a good image ) prints and a lot of web or email files, you can save yourself a lot of money on a good compact camera.
 
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