Some here owe Woodford an apology

The great strength of Oly are sales, in Japan you won't believe it, but BCN raankings show it. Profits however don't seem to follow.

So the question then becomes: if the banks are not interested in keeping the camera division which camera company might be interested? Someone who plans to keep the brand alive, or to dismantle it?

m4/3 users however have insurance in Panny. Even if Oly vanished the format would still be the sucess story of the decade, with 3d parties providing new lenses almost every day.

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If Olympus disappeared out of m4/3 I think you will find a lot of 3rd party vendors withdrawing. It would mean that a lot of their lenses will have to have OS. These are not the type of lenses 3rd parties will want to supply .I do not think they will want to go to the expenses of building OS lenses for one supplier. Yes there will be and are now the ‘Bang a mount on it ‘ suppliers of manual everything lenses.

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A more likely sequence of events is thus:

Woodford found what he thought might be fraud, deceit, and mismanagement of assets, and decided to use it to his personal advantage. His attempt to blackmail the board and seize control of Olympus backfired, so he went back to the UK and drummed up media coverage based on his inaccurate view of what the transactions were. This greatly damaged the share price and created a crisis that nearly sank the company, however other Japanese interests assisted in preventing this. (Probably in large part because many companies had used similar schemes when they were still not illegal, and possibly even thereafter as per Olympus.)
How is the possible scenario presented above "more likely"?
You don't believe it is more likely for a corporate shark to act in his own self-interests than out of innate nobility of spirit?
Well, Olympus employed a "corporate shark" for how many years? Promoted him to CEO, even? So someone felt that Woodford working at Olympus was in Olympus' best interests -- until he found out about illegal dealings, that is.
I can understand how Marty might see it that way, but I'm fairly sure that you're merely trolling.
What I'm sure of is that you can't defend your comment with anything substantial, so you pull out the "troll card" to divert to "entertainment". And that is a statement I can substantiate.
 
As one poster who lives in Japan said if the so called illegal manipulations where not done in the 90’s there probably would not have been an Olympus today.
It would be like saying if a medical company had not performed unethical tests on unwitting participants in a study, the company may not have survived.
your example is a bit more extreme as no one got physically hurt
Except for the one suicide. Regardless, that's neither here nor there.
Still, I am loathe to take as "fact" that what Olympus did was "necessary" for its survival. If this were the case, why only Olympus? Where are all the other scandals? Still hidden away waiting to explode?
everyone knows that pre-2008 many Japanese companys were doing EXACTLY the same thing, some were even camera companies
The "everyone is doing it" excuse.
Or are you arguing that Olympus was quietly fixing the problem and Woodford's poor timing stopped them from fixing the problem themselves? With a collapsing DSLR division, that would seem to be quite a reach, no?
They had fixed the problem themselves and felt the 2011 more accurately reflected the true balance sheet and by making Woodford CEO was a signal to the world of a new Olympus (Woodford never asked himself why he was made CEO out of 26 other candidates (some say better))
The problem was fixed? Do tell! Then all this that's currently going on is because of what? A problem that "used to be" but "no longer is"?

Oh, and Woodford was supposed to turn down the position of CEO because some felt others were "better qualified"? Wow.
Interesting way to look at things. I wonder how people on this board would have felt if this had happened to Canon, Nikon, or Sony. Too bad we can't peer into those alternate universes, 'cause I'd like to place a rather healthy bet on what we'd see.
I would of have exactly the same feelings, strange how many of the pro-Woodford camp were Nikon users and not Pentax, Sony etc..
Like I said, I wish I had access to that magic mirror into the alternate universe so I could place my bet. Oh, by the way -- I am not pro Woodford. I simply maintain that he was better qualified to run Olympus than the previous management, that he was unjustly fired (unless, of course, the reason he was fired is not because he uncovered the problem, but tried to blackmail them with it), and that the vast majority here defend unethical and illegal actions and villify competent ambition.

At least, that's what they do when it's Olympus. As I said, I have money that they'd do differently were it Sony, Canon, or Nikon.
 
Not interested in killjoys.

BTW Panny is perfectly able to raise production rates, being huge.

At the moment Oly and Panny share equally 16% of the Japanese market, and growing.

A thing you were never aware of, possibly. In the 3 years they did it.

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That's an inaccurate portrayal of events, and misses some crucial parts.

Remember that Woodford started his own secret investigation after he was given the CEO role, but before he was given the role of Chair of the board. When the board told him to suspend the investigation he refused to do so.
Hmmm. As so often happens on these forums, you are actually the one who is wrong about the events.
There's a surprise. ;)
Woodford became aware of possible accounting irregularities at Olympus when they were revealed in a magazine article in a Japanese business magazine early last summer. That article was based on information from an Olympus Japan whistle-blower whose identity has never been revealed.

The magazine (FACTA) published a second article with further details later in the summer. After it did so, Woodford went to Kikukawa et. al. with information from those two articles and asked for an explanation. They told him it was none of his business. Then , he initiated an internal investigation on his own.

So, the scandal was already becoming a public issue (FACTA is a small magazine, but well-known among business journalists, and it was pursuing the story with ongoing articles (and still is)). And the person who first initiated the reckoning for this $2 billion fraud was not Woodford, but the unnamed informant who first went to FACTA, way back in the spring/early summer of last year (or probably earlier; FACTA has not disclosed when they first began reporting this story, as far as I know).
Ah -- so Woodford was reacting to a story that already broke publically, as opposed to having stumbled across "irregularities" on his own.
Woodford found himself in the position of having to deal with a scandal that was beginning to unfold publicly. The narrative that has him uncovering this fraud himself (or knowing about it for years and finally getting a chance to use it), and then deciding to use it for blackmail, is simply wrong. That's not how it happened, and we know that. Facts matter.
Yes, facts do matter, oddly enough. ;)
You seem to be completely missing the practical advantage of covering up the losses. The people involved in setting up the scheme did not benefit financially, the intent was to reduce the damage to the company.
I doubt he missed the practical advantages of committing fraud -- it is indeed a great way to cheat other people out of their money, as long as you never get caught.
It's interesting that so many defend covering up fraudulent activity., and becoming accomplices themselves. As common as this opinion is expressed here, it goes a long way to explaining many things, however.
The intent may have been to reduce the damage to the company, but by doing so via fraud, Olympus executives damaged the company's shareholders and lenders. Is that point really that hard for people to understand?
I would argue that it's not hard for them to understand, but to accept when it's Olympus.
As to Woodford -- he will most likely get a huge chunk of money for his trouble, via his "wrongful dismissal" suit, so his scheming was probably not entirely for nought.
He was wrongfully dismissed. He should be compensated. As an executive of Olympus he had a legal fiduciary responsibility to ensure that the company was accounting for its finances accurately -- he could have gone to jail for failing to uphold that legal duty, even in Japan (such results are rare everywhere, because these laws are not normally enforced very aggressively -- it's good to be rich and powerful -- but the legal responsibility remains nevertheless).
I have to guess this is why the invention of a story that Woodford blackmailed Olympus came into being -- to "justify" why he wasn't wrongfully fired.
 
As one poster who lives in Japan said if the so called illegal manipulations where not done in the 90’s there probably would not have been an Olympus today.
It would be like saying if a medical company had not performed unethical tests on unwitting participants in a study, the company may not have survived.

Still, I am loathe to take as "fact" that what Olympus did was "necessary" for its survival. If this were the case, why only Olympus? Where are all the other scandals? Still hidden away waiting to explode?

Or are you arguing that Olympus was quietly fixing the problem and Woodford's poor timing stopped them from fixing the problem themselves? With a collapsing DSLR division, that would seem to be quite a reach, no?
In the 90’s Olympus was put in a precarious position when the Japanese stock/bond market crashed (bad investments. ) The way I see the action is more of a fanatical crime of passion. Decisions had to be made to protect the company ( Not personal pockets) so a hard decision (If somewhat illegal ) was taken. This decision was to protect the company , employees , and short term future on the business. The people doing this knowingly did this to protect the thing they loved and not for personal gain. ( Yes a salary at the end of the month would be nice.) Tough times called for tough measures. As they say Pride comes before a fall and this is where Olympus came unstuck. This dead wood should have been cleared out of the system. But think about this how does a new president's now blessed with this lovely info go public with thing’s that happened 20 years ago. You try and clean up the mess. The tools to clean up the mess where wrong. At this stage it appears there were no private jets liners and cruisers parked in the Caribbean and 24 hour around the clock parties for employees and customers. No BOD directors fat pay outs ( Liquidating assets) while waiting for the hammer to fall. The company was solvent and functional unlike the norm in the rest of the world east and west of the pacific.
You know, if I blew all my money on lottery tickets hoping to be able to pay my mortgage in a depressed economy, lied on loan applications to get the loan to cover my stupidity, and then went deeper into the hole with more of the same, all in the name of being able to keep my home hoping that as the economy recovered I'd be able to pay back those debts, I think some would sympathize with me, others would call me a fool and think I deserved to be homeless.

But to blame the person who uncovered what I did and seek to buy my house, when that person was my accountant who I fired for finding out what I did?

No, I don't think so.
Did the investors lose any money until Woodford went public. Maybe I am a stupid African boy that lives is a mud hut but , Profits = Dividends which are paid to share holders . So if the profits were inflated then surly the investors where overpaid. As to the overvaluation of the company that is to complex for an African boy like me maybe a commodity mover can explain it in more detail.

Wrong yes, but also understandable actions. The means does not justify the end , but left with few to no options what would most people do.

As to books . Woodford is going to do his thing. I wonder if the past Olympus president's might also do a book. Probably not as it would not be the right thing to drag dirt around.

Now to get slaughtered by the moralists. :)
Well, it's obvious that you're a "by all means necessary" kind of guy, and feel that a "by the book" kind of guy who also has ambitions is the real evil.

Funny thing is, like Olympus, Woodford did what he felt he had to do to survive, the difference being that what he did was legal. Yet he's the bad guy, in your eyes, and not just a bad guy, but almost evil incarnate.

Interesting way to look at things. I wonder how people on this board would have felt if this had happened to Canon, Nikon, or Sony. Too bad we can't peer into those alternate universes, 'cause I'd like to place a rather healthy bet on what we'd see.
I am not going to continue this backwards and forwards morals debate and have a thread that goes off at a tangent debating my and others morals. I have already had one “Sleight of hand “ experience . So I know end result is pointless due to expectations of where the thread should go . If you find my thoughts on the matter to be morally incorrect so be it.

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I am not going to continue this backwards and forwards morals debate and have a thread that goes off at a tangent debating my and others morals.
Understandable for someone who feels that...

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=40760170

...It was never if he was right or wrong...

and instead concentrates on:

...but how he did it.

So, what, exactly, was it that he did that outweighed the principles of right and wrong? When you say:

And on that point he was wrong.

what point, exactly, was that? That he felt he was better qualified than the people who wrongly fired him to run Olympus?

Were there better candidates to run Olympus? Almost certainly. But there are better people to run America than Obama, but I don't think Americans can fault Obama for running for the office and winning the election, any more than they can fault those who ran for office against him and lost.
I have already had one “Sleight of hand “ experience . So I know end result is pointless due to expectations of where the thread should go . If you find my thoughts on the matter to be morally incorrect so be it.
For sure, I can't say where this thread "should" go, but I can say that a good direction might begin with getting the facts straight:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=40771374
 
I'm glad they fired Woodford. He would've run the photo division into the ground anyway. His stated plan to "fix" the problems was the typical Western business school model - mass layoffs, and low-value, high-profit add-on accessories. How about improving core products? That was also a big problem, but not his main target. Mass layoffs might make the stock price better (his main goal), but the negatives outweigh the positives. We don't "owe" him a darn thing. Two wrongs don't make a right. Good riddance, Woodford.
 
how some people can still think that large scale corporate fraud is ok to do, not to mention that Woodford initiated every step in his power to resolve the matter.

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Which probably should be expected, since this is a camera forum.

But... the truth is digital imaging isn't a core business for Olympus. And it never was.

All those cameras and lenses put together make up around 15% of their revenue, and all together they are either creating a small profit or a small loss for Olympus, depending on which year you look at. Since M4/3 I suspect they are profitable, but only slightly.

Precision Medical Devices (Endoscopes and Microscopes) are their core business. In the Endoscope market alone Olympus enjoys a 70% market share. And both of these are very profitable products.

The company will not rise or fall based on the performance of this division. Naturally, it would be much better if the division was profitable, but the value of this to Olympus is in brand recognition and prestige. Olympus has a rich history in photographic products, a reputation for innovation and quality, and instant brand recognition.

There is no good reason to divest themselves of this division as long as it is either profitable or just slightly losing money. The value of the sale will not come close to replacing their loses.

Further, the Imaging Division is now well positioned, having a very good spot in a growth segment of the market. Right now, Olympus and Panasonic are the Canon and Nikon of MILC cameras.

The point being... whether the Imaging Division stays or goes will be strictly a function of business need... not due to "who blew the whistle on the BOD, and how they did it."

Some folks are grossly overstating the "harm" Michael Woodford caused. The harm was caused by bad business decisions by the BOD, and if anything he played a key role in putting and end to the fraud, and getting Olympus back on track.
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The point being... whether the Imaging Division stays or goes will be strictly a function of business need... not due to "who blew the whistle on the BOD, and how they did it."
Well it's funny that you say that in a forum which always maintained that the endoscope division was paying for the camera one. And very happy about that. :)
Some folks are grossly overstating the "harm" Michael Woodford caused. The harm was caused by bad business decisions by the BOD, and if anything he played a key role in putting and end to the fraud, and getting Olympus back on track.
Well the opinion of the 'forensic accountant' I read, and which was correct form the beginning it is that it is standard practice among companies incurring losses to hide them.

Since the losses occurred 20 yrs. ago during Japan's speculative bust, the innuendo was that most Japanese companies did the same.

But only Olympus had a Woodford almost killing the company to take control.

I must believe that you are such a noble soul, a man of such high values, thatg you'd rather bring down the house than tolerate a misdeed.

You remind me of the character of 'The Quiet American' who brought down Vietnam. :)

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George Carlin was primarily a comedian with lots of insight into nature of people and politics. He commented on and rein acted his feelings. He often ran afoul of the ‘Establishment’ . One must always move forward and backwards in life . If you keep on moving sideways you will trip over your own feet. The down side up and backwards this is of this is you bump into people who are also going forwards and backwards. One does not always have to bend over to see and observer beauty , triumph , sadness , joy and despair those things that take our breaths away.

Ok a punch or kick in the guts and pure terror would also do the trick.
Sorry is the easiest thing to say but it’s also the easiest to lie about.

Oh yea and I did not like the tone of voice.

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how some people can still think that large scale corporate fraud is ok to do,
That wouldn't include me. Pointing out the apparent reasoning behind an action that wasn't illegal at the time it started is not the same as agreeing with the decision.
not to mention that Woodford initiated every step in his power to resolve the matter.
Such a matter is for the board to look into and resolve, not the executive.
 
how some people can still think that large scale corporate fraud is ok to do,
That wouldn't include me.
You could forgive someone for making that mistake, then, when you make comments like:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=40767199

You seem to be completely missing the practical advantage of covering up the losses.

Sure reads like someone who thinks that "large scale corporate fraud is ok to do".
Pointing out the apparent reasoning behind an action that wasn't illegal at the time it started is not the same as agreeing with the decision.
The bad investments weren't illegal, but are you saying that covering up the losses was not illegal, either? Given that it wasn't illegal (at the time), was it ethical? Ever? Or does being "practical" override ethics?
not to mention that Woodford initiated every step in his power to resolve the matter.
Such a matter is for the board to look into and resolve, not the executive.
Well, according to you, a "more likely scenario" is that Woodford used Olympus' predicament to blackmail the board, an assertion that when I questioned you about, resulted in the "troll card" being pulled out to divert from the question, and is completely at odds with the account that Eamon Hickey gave:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=40771374

Hmmm. As so often happens on these forums, you are actually the one who is wrong about the events.

Woodford became aware of possible accounting irregularities at Olympus when they were revealed in a magazine article in a Japanese business magazine early last summer. That article was based on information from an Olympus Japan whistle-blower whose identity has never been revealed.

The magazine (FACTA) published a second article with further details later in the summer. After it did so, Woodford went to Kikukawa et. al. with information from those two articles and asked for an explanation. They told him it was none of his business. Then, he initiated an internal investigation on his own.

So, the scandal was already becoming a public issue (FACTA is a small magazine, but well-known among business journalists, and it was pursuing the story with ongoing articles (and still is)). And the person who first initiated the reckoning for this $2 billion fraud was not Woodford, but the unnamed informant who first went to FACTA, way back in the spring/early summer of last year (or probably earlier; FACTA has not disclosed when they first began reporting this story, as far as I know).

Woodford found himself in the position of having to deal with a scandal that was beginning to unfold publicly. The narrative that has him uncovering this fraud himself (or knowing about it for years and finally getting a chance to use it), and then deciding to use it for blackmail, is simply wrong. That's not how it happened, and we know that. Facts matter.


I kinda like Eamon's last line: facts matter . I tend to think so, myself. So, what facts do you have to support your "more likely scenario"?
 
That's an inaccurate portrayal of events, and misses some crucial parts.

Remember that Woodford started his own secret investigation after he was given the CEO role, but before he was given the role of Chair of the board. When the board told him to suspend the investigation he refused to do so.
Hmmm. As so often happens on these forums, you are actually the one who is wrong about the events.
Let's establish a time-line.
  • 2008 -- Olympus makes the Gyrus acquisition, directly from Tokyo. This keeps Woodford (head of European operations) out of the loop. Everyone (including Woodford) considers this strange behaviour.
  • Later in 2008 -- Woodford gets given a position on the board in Tokyo. He has no command of Japanese.
  • 1 April 2011 -- Woodford is plucked out of obscurity and made President and COO.
  • 30 July 2011 -- Woodford reads the FACTA reports. They detail the Gyrus acquisition that Woodford believed was
  • 1 October 2011 -- Woodford is given the CEO role.
  • 14 October 2011 -- Woodford is fired from the CEO and President positions (allegedly for "managerial differences").
  • Woodford goes back to the UK and organises a media campaign about the "corruption" that he uncovered, then takes his evidence to the UK police a few days later.
Woodford became aware of possible accounting irregularities at Olympus when they were revealed in a magazine article in a Japanese business magazine early last summer. That article was based on information from an Olympus Japan whistle-blower whose identity has never been revealed.
Woodford knew the purchase was "irregular" back in 2008. He claims to have been intending to resign over the matter, but then Tokyo gave him a seat on the board and he changed his mind.
The magazine (FACTA) published a second article with further details later in the summer. After it did so, Woodford went to Kikukawa et. al. with information from those two articles and asked for an explanation. They told him it was none of his business. Then , he initiated an internal investigation on his own.
Then he got promoted to CEO.
So, the scandal was already becoming a public issue (FACTA is a small magazine, but well-known among business journalists, and it was pursuing the story with ongoing articles (and still is)). And the person who first initiated the reckoning for this $2 billion fraud was not Woodford, but the unnamed informant who first went to FACTA, way back in the spring/early summer of last year (or probably earlier; FACTA has not disclosed when they first began reporting this story, as far as I know).
Despite the small circle of people directly involved in these "loss-making" deals, it appears to have been widely known that these were extremely odd transactions.

My guess would be that someone got hold of some detailed transaction information -- showing the use of various shell companies to route exorbitant "fees" -- and passed that on.
Woodford found himself in the position of having to deal with a scandal that was beginning to unfold publicly. The narrative that has him uncovering this fraud himself (or knowing about it for years and finally getting a chance to use it), and then deciding to use it for blackmail, is simply wrong. That's not how it happened, and we know that. Facts matter.
Yes, they do.

Remember that Woodford claims to have been intending to resign over the Gyrus deal in 2008 because he was cut out of the loop.

(continued...)
 
(continued...)
You seem to be completely missing the practical advantage of covering up the losses. The people involved in setting up the scheme did not benefit financially, the intent was to reduce the damage to the company.
I doubt he missed the practical advantages of committing fraud -- it is indeed a great way to cheat other people out of their money, as long as you never get caught.
In this case, the people involved were filling a hole created in the 1990s by running up deliberate "losses" and "fees".

It wasn't illegal when they started it, but they should have definitely pulled the plug on the scheme and admitted the (remaining) 1990s losses when such were made illegal.
The intent may have been to reduce the damage to the company, but by doing so via fraud, Olympus executives damaged the company's shareholders and lenders. Is that point really that hard for people to understand?
No. Is it hard to understand that such behaviour was fairly common prior to the legal situation being "clarified"? Japan spent most of the 1990s and early '00s in a "lost decade" as they filled in the real estate bubble from the 1980s and early 90s (Olympus' losses were due to "investing" in financial derivatives and other such nonsense). In my view, this is perhaps a better approach to the European "Oops, we're bankrupt -- give us some more money" approach.

The people who built this scheme weren't using it for personal gain, but they will now have to pay for it.
As to Woodford -- he will most likely get a huge chunk of money for his trouble, via his "wrongful dismissal" suit, so his scheming was probably not entirely for nought.
He was wrongfully dismissed. He should be compensated.
Woodford was an odd choice to be elevated to his positions in the first place. I consider it unlikely that someone unable to speak Japanese could reasonably fulfil those roles.

A person thinking about this might wonder why he took those roles on.
As an executive of Olympus he had a legal fiduciary responsibility to ensure that the company was accounting for its finances accurately -- he could have gone to jail for failing to uphold that legal duty, even in Japan (such results are rare everywhere, because these laws are not normally enforced very aggressively -- it's good to be rich and powerful -- but the legal responsibility remains nevertheless).
The CEO is responsible and accountable to the board of directors. It is their role -- as a whole -- to ensure that these sort of events don't transpire.

My view is that people are far too keen on a nice simple "white hat" (for the Brit) and "black hats" (for the Japanese) approach. It'd be interesting to see how the Japanese view this.
 
Funny how people who supposedly are against trolling end up engaging in behavior becoming trolls.
Not really.

You are the perfect example of someone who does this.

You are almost a perfectly sanctimonious hypocrite.

Except that nobody's perfect ...
 
how some people can still think that large scale corporate fraud is ok to do,
That wouldn't include me.
You could forgive someone for making that mistake, then, when you make comments like:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=40767199

You seem to be completely missing the practical advantage of covering up the losses.

Sure reads like someone who thinks that "large scale corporate fraud is ok to do".
Only if you're a fool. There was an explanation of what they were doing, and the "grey area" in terms of legality, ethics, and the best interests of the company and shareholders.
Pointing out the apparent reasoning behind an action that wasn't illegal at the time it started is not the same as agreeing with the decision.
The bad investments weren't illegal, but are you saying that covering up the losses was not illegal, either?
No, and you seem to agree...
Given that it wasn't illegal (at the time), was it ethical?
It's an accounting trick.

Is it "ethical" that the biggest corporations in the USA pay on average 14-15% tax when the rate is supposedly 35%? Perhaps you should be more concerned about that, than Japan's past issues.

( http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/01/ge-exxon-walmart-business-washington-corporate-taxes.html )
Ever? Or does being "practical" override ethics?
What is of the greatest value?

If "maintaining shareholder value" -- profitability -- is the be-all and end-all then any and all actions that aren't sufficiently illegal as to cause disproportionate harm are "ethical".

Ethics is always a good point to consider, in general terms. This is of course eminently applicable to our own lives -- inclusive of our interactions with others -- and not simply an abstract standard to compare others against.
not to mention that Woodford initiated every step in his power to resolve the matter.
Such a matter is for the board to look into and resolve, not the executive.
Well, according to you, a "more likely scenario" is that Woodford used Olympus' predicament to blackmail the board,
Attempted. He would appear to have good grounds for thinking it would work, based on past experience.
an assertion that when I questioned you about, resulted in the "troll card" being pulled out to divert from the question,
Pointing out that you were trolling (and still are, but you're transitioning to more of a straight-out character attack by the looks of it) is based on the inference that you agree with Marty's rose-tinted view of Woodford.

Marty is a nice person, from what I can see, so that isn't unexpected from him (some basic psychology, mixed with some naivete). But you aren't the same type of person... Different ethics, you might say...
and is completely at odds with the account that Eamon Hickey gave:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=40771374
No, it isn't. It comes down to the details, and how you would interpret them.
I kinda like Eamon's last line: facts matter . I tend to think so, myself. So, what facts do you have to support your "more likely scenario"?
I replied to Eamon up-thread.
 

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