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Nokia beats Canon in the Megapixel race...

The new Canon 5D III is rumored to have 22 Mp, perhaps a higher pixel density camera is still in the wings.

But now, Nokia revealed a new mobile phone at MWC 2012: Nokia reveals 41MP cameraphone.

What the ???? Their pixel size must be below the diffraction limit.
Perhaps they use pixel binning to combine pixels to reduce noise??

Probably just a marketing gimmick, but anyway, Nikon shows it, and now Nokia, I guess Canon has to come out with a higher density sensor for landscape shooters, where high ISO is not essential.

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photonius said:
Nokia beats Canon in the Megapixel race...

The new Canon 5D III is rumored to have 22 Mp, perhaps a higher pixel density camera is still in the wings.

But now, Nokia revealed a new mobile phone at MWC 2012: Nokia reveals 41MP cameraphone.

What the ???? Their pixel size must be below the diffraction limit.
Perhaps they use pixel binning to combine pixels to reduce noise??

Probably just a marketing gimmick, but anyway, Nikon shows it, and now Nokia, I guess Canon has to come out with a higher density sensor for landscape shooters, where high ISO is not essential.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/bestboyzde/6789121854/sizes/l/in/photostream/
 
Geeeesse! Goes to show we are all being taken for a ride by camera manufacturers in regards to sensor technology!
 
Peter 13 said:
photonius said:
Probably just a marketing gimmick [...]
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No, it is what a few people, John included, have been saying here for a long time.
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well, looks like it's used for oversampling, so, yes, it's real no hype.
but files would be huge on aps-c. (what is the equivalent? 200Mp?)

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MajStriker said:
Well, It IS a gimmick...albeit one that seems to work pretty well.

The actual sensor is only 5MP but combined with some useful technology it can produce a 41MP image. Here's an article that explains a little more:
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It's the other way around. It's a 41mp sensor that produces 5mp images by downsampling. I'm pretty sure you can also get high resolution photos out of the phone.
 
photonius said:
well, looks like it's used for oversampling, so, yes, it's real no hype.
but files would be huge on aps-c. (what is the equivalent? 200Mp?)
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sounds like a lot of clever thinking to me; these phones have lots of processing power, and they put it to good use in several ways. I guess there are many imaging tricks and corrections that you can pull off with such high native resolution. One of the catches with such high resolution indeed would be storage and transfer, but by storing a smaller image that is no longer the bottleneck.

funny how Canon went from 21 to 22 megapixels in 3.5 years with their 5D series, and Nokia went from 8 to 41 megapixels in a shorter time :)
 
Depending on good light and not zooming in you will be able to take (presumably good quality) 38 megapix pictures with the phone. Its really impressive. Hope this can inspire Canon - or Nikon if Canon blows it with the price tag for their mid-term half-baked 5Dii "upgrade" aka 5Diii next week... (LOL!).
LLS1 said:
MajStriker said:
Well, It IS a gimmick...albeit one that seems to work pretty well.

The actual sensor is only 5MP but combined with some useful technology it can produce a 41MP image. Here's an article that explains a little more:
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It's the other way around. It's a 41mp sensor that produces 5mp images by downsampling. I'm pretty sure you can also get high resolution photos out of the phone.
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I guess I was confused by this comment:
LLS1 said:
It never actually takes 41MP images, however, in part because the file sizes would be too big and in part because it actually uses the additional megapixels to capture more information, which it then turns into better standard images.
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But your point is well taken. The sample images are pretty stunning from a camera phone.

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Guess you missed that news a while back. That would be 195Mp FF at same density. Nokia does have even smaller pixels, but have not calculated FF pixel count at that density.

Dan
 
altair8800 said:
Guess you missed that news a while back. That would be 195Mp FF at same density. Nokia does have even smaller pixels, but have not calculated FF pixel count at that density.
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but a chip is not a full product, at least Nokia does something useful with their technology.
 
altair8800 said:
Guess you missed that news a while back. That would be 195Mp FF at same density. Nokia does have even smaller pixels, but have not calculated FF pixel count at that density.

Dan
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somewhere it said the pixel is 1.4um.
for full frame that is 25714 x 17142 pixels.

That would be 440 Mp on a FF camera....

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