I think the E-PL2 is a absolutely awesome camera

There is no bias against an EPL-2 or pro as well as against or pro Panasonic cameras. You should not conclude from the reoccurring red-dot threads (which are justified as long Olympus does not make statements about the "issue") that there is bias towards negative EPL-2 comments (even a bias can be justified if the camera isn't so good).
NuFonaut was referring to the hydra known by many names that should be here shortly, bashing away at anything associated with Olympus. It probably rants about Olympus Mons on the space.com forums.
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The only rumor I've seen is a pro version coming out allegedly in 2-3 years....
 
I agree. Nice little camera with so many in-camera features and options that after a month I still have only scratched the surface of what it offers.

It produces the most pleasing results straight out of the camera of any I've ever used.

The in-camera stabilization is also the best I've seen. I took a .6 sec photo last night and unless you zoom to 100% you can't see shake. I continue to be amazed, but then I'm easily amused.
 
I think the rumor was for an EP3 fairly soon, and the "pro" model in a couple years. Semi-pro in price range, maybe, and who knows what the actual camera will be like.

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I think too many people forget that the extra "speed" of the revised kit lens is... well... marketing. That's because it is actually the focus range that has changed, I suspect, a bit more than the actual rotor speed. The mark 1 lens has a maximum magnification of 0.24X, while mark II has a value of 0.19X. Not huge, I give that, but sensible (as it's actually 20% more magnification for the older lens). The new lens does have significant advantages, but IMHO the older one was the best close-up kit ever made, and it's a shame to have this feature downgraded.
 
I agree, awesome camera. I love this camera. Moved from Nikon D200 18-200 combo. I find the EV excellent and like the 90 degree function. JPEGs are terrific. Art filters are fun. I use the 14-150 most of the time, so easy to carry, not heavy at all and the bokeh is lovely. Can't wait to get the 75-300 for a little birding and interesting landscape shots. For the money, it's a great camera.















 
Greetings,

Congrats on your new E-PL2. Interesting report.
Are you a hobbyist or pro photographer?
Are you shooting RAW or JPEG?

What DSLR do you have now and how does the dynamic range of the E-PL2 compare to it?

I have a GF-1/G2 and like the Oly OOC JPEGS colors alot more, so I'm thinking of adding one to my MFT kit.

Regards.
I bought one to get hold of the lens. Then the plan was to sell the body and to keep the lens. Right now I will keep the E-PL2 and will sell the E-P2 body plus old kit lens.

In addition I am strongly considering to even let my SLR go.

I know these are strong statements....but every now and then one come across a product that has it all....I think the E-PL2 is one of those....

Is it worth the upgrade from E-P2?....Absolutely yes!!!

Guys the E-PL2 is packed with features, it can be customized to fit any persons style in every possible mode or shooting style....

Yesterday for example I discovered the curves highlight / shadow function and again WOW Olympus its a winner.

Then iEnhance plus the fact that its adjustable is just amazing.

The ART filters can be adjusted in the E-PL2...much better than with the E-PL1....I cannot wait to see what could happen with the PRO version PEN....

I am dreaming to write much more on my site about this beauty...hope I find the time....

Best

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Like others here, I suffer from GAS.
Gear Acquisition Syndrome.
a few hundred nautical miles SW : 17º 52S, 149º 56W
 
That's pretty amazing your can get a sharp pic at .6 of a second.
You must have really steady hands.

Can you post the pic?
In your opinion, would it be sharp enough for a 11"x14" print.

I'm thinking of adding a E-PL2 to my current MFT kit. GF-1/G2.

Regards.
I agree. Nice little camera with so many in-camera features and options that after a month I still have only scratched the surface of what it offers.

It produces the most pleasing results straight out of the camera of any I've ever used.

The in-camera stabilization is also the best I've seen. I took a .6 sec photo last night and unless you zoom to 100% you can't see shake. I continue to be amazed, but then I'm easily amused.
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Like others here, I suffer from GAS.
Gear Acquisition Syndrome.
a few hundred nautical miles SW : 17º 52S, 149º 56W
 
That's pretty amazing your can get a sharp pic at .6 of a second.
You must have really steady hands.

Can you post the pic?
In your opinion, would it be sharp enough for a 11"x14" print.
I posted the picture in my joke thread about the AF assist lamp. I wasn't particularly trying for a steady shot. It was just a quick, hopefully funny snapshot for the thread. I didn't realize it was a slow shutter speed until I heard the IS motor making noise. It's fun hearing the IS buzz and whir on long handheld shots.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1041&message=38147774
Exif data
Camera OLYMPUS E-PL2
Exposure 0.6
Aperture f/3.5
Focal Length 14 mm
ISO Speed 400
Flash Auto, Did not fire
X-Resolution 1
Y-Resolution 1
Date and Time (Original) 2011:04:05 19:46:36+00:00
Related Image Width 4096
Related Image Height 3084
 
What about all the time spent in producing the XZ-1... and from what I see at present.. and I was really serious about that camera .. it just , to me, from all that I've seen and read so far, is NOT at all enticing now. I'm NOT a regular RAW shooter and it does seem that such new camera just isn't able to produce good JPGs anything like as well as most other Oly's..indeed like the present PENs of whatever breed.
I can relate to what you're saying about the XZ-1. I had pre-ordered one from Amazon, but cancelled the order after reading some owner reviews and seeing jpg images. I like to shoot jpg as I don't want to spend a lot of time on the computer with RAW (and a new learning curve) since my photography time is limited. I am disappointed in the smearing and other (noise) complaints about jpg results with the XZ-1.

I have the E-PL2 and I LOVE the IQ, the jpg output is fantastic, and there are so many options and features. I'm one who enjoys the dramatic art filters - I think they are a lot of fun and IMO produce great results.

I was going to sell my LX5 to buy the XZ-1 for my every day carry-around camera, but will wait and see if there is an XZ-2 or something similar. I do love the Oly colors. Up until 2 years ago, I used Canon dslr's all of my photography life. I can't believe how much of an Oly fan I have become! I never thought I'd leave the Canon ranks until I couldn't carry the heavy "L" lenses around anymore! :-)

Maria
 
Hi Lee

I read your other mail and decided not to answer because you decided for Panasonic. Nothing wrong with your decision the challenge is Pannasonic owners generally own the ferfect camera and Olympus is nor only good it has a heart....Not many get to appreciate that...

Here my answers..
Greetings,

Congrats on your new E-PL2. Interesting report. -
Thanks
Are you a hobbyist or pro photographer? -
Serious Hobbiyst (Writter
  • book on photography plus see my site)
Are you shooting RAW or JPEG? -
Both
What DSLR do you have now and how does the dynamic range of the E-PL2 compare to it?
E620 plus pro grade glass, E-P2 plus E-PL2
I have a GF-1/G2 and like the Oly OOC JPEGS colors alot more, so I'm thinking of adding one to my MFT kit.
The E-PL2 shines on Oly JPEG power plus flexibility - very different to Panasonic lifeless jpeg engine (Iknow I owned a few)
Regards.
I bought one to get hold of the lens. Then the plan was to sell the body and to keep the lens. Right now I will keep the E-PL2 and will sell the E-P2 body plus old kit lens.

In addition I am strongly considering to even let my SLR go.

I know these are strong statements....but every now and then one come across a product that has it all....I think the E-PL2 is one of those....

Is it worth the upgrade from E-P2?....Absolutely yes!!!

Guys the E-PL2 is packed with features, it can be customized to fit any persons style in every possible mode or shooting style....

Yesterday for example I discovered the curves highlight / shadow function and again WOW Olympus its a winner.

Then iEnhance plus the fact that its adjustable is just amazing.

The ART filters can be adjusted in the E-PL2...much better than with the E-PL1....I cannot wait to see what could happen with the PRO version PEN....

I am dreaming to write much more on my site about this beauty...hope I find the time....

Best

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Like others here, I suffer from GAS.
Gear Acquisition Syndrome.
a few hundred nautical miles SW : 17º 52S, 149º 56W
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I agree 100%. The fact that the sensors at the heart of these cameras haven't changed in two years is what's keeping me from upgrading.
I thought that I'd read here that the AA filter for the PL2 was weaker (i.e. sharper result) than on the P1 and P2. I don't know it for a "fact" just a bit of "forum wisdom". I also thought that although the resolution was the same, the Panny and Oly cameras sourced different sensors.

I'm not stating this just repeating either fact or fancy.

Even if multiple cameras use the same sensor they can achieve different results through their processing engine and of course different AA filters or IS systems, etc.
 
Greetings

I like your self portrait.
I'll need to get an E-PL2.

Thanks for posting the EXIF.
That's pretty amazing your can get a sharp pic at .6 of a second.
You must have really steady hands.

Can you post the pic?
In your opinion, would it be sharp enough for a 11"x14" print.
I posted the picture in my joke thread about the AF assist lamp. I wasn't particularly trying for a steady shot. It was just a quick, hopefully funny snapshot for the thread. I didn't realize it was a slow shutter speed until I heard the IS motor making noise. It's fun hearing the IS buzz and whir on long handheld shots.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1041&message=38147774
Exif data
Camera OLYMPUS E-PL2
Exposure 0.6
Aperture f/3.5
Focal Length 14 mm
ISO Speed 400
Flash Auto, Did not fire
X-Resolution 1
Y-Resolution 1
Date and Time (Original) 2011:04:05 19:46:36+00:00
Related Image Width 4096
Related Image Height 3084
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Like others here, I suffer from GAS.
Gear Acquisition Syndrome.
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The E-P1 is not being discussed here.
Yes it is.... I brought up the question myself...to you in fact .. as to just WHAT is the difference between the E-P1 that I have, and the E-P2 that you have..(as well as the E-P1)... so a good comparison seemed more likely - and maybe a help in my own thinking as to whether (or not) a change-up from the E-P1 was really worth it

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eric-UK
Staffordshire
 
The E-P1 is not being discussed here.
Really?
ericN2 wrote:

After having had the E-P1 now for about 6 months or so I've really seriously been thinking of updating (if it IS an update) to the E-P2 as there are one or two about at a couple of places here in UK where the price is very good.. body only.

Personally I'm NOT a user of the Art Filters and they offer nothing to me.. but do tell me.. just WHAT is the real reason . or justification, or improvements (otherwise).. DO you get with the E-P2 over the E-P1 ? Isn't the sensor and almost everything the same ?.. I'm really not at all sure exactly what improvements in generally used (main) features I'd get from an E-P2 which I don't have now on the E-P1... lenses I've got what I want , so the thought has been in regard to body alone.. but what DOES the E-P2 do that the E-P1 doesn't.. or what EXTRA ??
I'd love to hear about it please , as it seems YOU have both...
I know you've got happy pants about your E-PL2, but ericN2 specifically asked about differences between the E-P1 and the E-P2, and I quoted him in my original response.
I don't know why he asked about the E-P1 & 2 in your E-PL2 thread, but he did.
(Another clarification ...) ... I asked because Bushman Org did say that he had both the E-P1 and the E-P2...and the latter was a part of his original starting discussion, but having stated he had both above , it was a perfectly valid query as to what was different in the cameras being talked of.

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eric-UK
Staffordshire
 
Hi Maria

I see you post, its happened to you and there is no return at this point onward. Once you discover the Oly jpeg engine then its that no return point....

As you correctly point out the E-PL2 is the best Oly to date to make use of that jpeg engine.

I find it difficult in terms of time but am so impressed that I will do my best to write more about the E-PL2 on my site. It will help me a lot to have support from converts like you;-))...

Best

Siegfried

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I have an E-pl2 and I think its great. First non P&S camera I have ever owned.

However the red dots were dissipointing but I still would not have changed me decesion.
 
Hi Eric

Interesting I did own the E-P1 when it first came out. If you recall it was at a time that Olympus was not known for good ISO results, plus strong AA filters. The E-P1 images were just in a class of its own at the time of its launch. I am sure it still delivers top class images as things did not change that much....

What did change more is Olympus turning their back on the typical pixel race / tech type hype seen in the industry today. At first not so clear to spot but now much better I think.

That said the E-PL2 rightly mentioned by somebody is still just a 12MP PEN. What developed in leaps and bounds is the creative capability of the PEN line and the E-PL2 is giving us a hint into what is coming I think.

As I said a number of times, the ability one have with the E-PL2 to access unique and advance functions and to then start playing or experimenting by selecting different combinations has never been possible.

Just think one can decide to have a unique program mode A JPEG output that consist of a scaled iEnhance plus contrast, saturation, sharpness and graduation and one already moving to a unique result. Add to that numerous possibilities while shooting and it becomes even better. Then one can move to program mode P, S each with its own sets of outputs. No wonder Oly decided to offer the user no less then 5 user sets...

Just a comment on ART filters. I will put it harsh. I know the m4/3 purist think ART filters are only for sissies...Let them continue to study images on pixel level, we need them in terms of counting jaggies and to feed that back to the development team.

I regard myself as an artist and in that sense I found the ART filter to be a awesome tool. Ad to that the really awesome flexibility Oly has added to the (E-P2) ART filter and the sky is the limit. I think its only the start and to practice now will prepare you for the next gen ART filter. Have you tried the Diorama filter yet?

Long reply, hope it has value

Siegfried

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