I think the E-PL2 is a absolutely awesome camera

[BushmanOrig]

I bought one to get hold of the lens. Then the plan was to sell the body and to keep the lens. Right now I will keep the E-PL2 and will sell the E-P2 body plus old kit lens.

In addition I am strongly considering to even let my SLR go.

I know these are strong statements....but every now and then one come across a product that has it all....I think the E-PL2 is one of those....

Is it worth the upgrade from E-P2?....Absolutely yes!!!

Guys the E-PL2 is packed with features, it can be customized to fit any persons style in every possible mode or shooting style....

Yesterday for example I discovered the curves highlight / shadow function and again WOW Olympus its a winner.

Then iEnhance plus the fact that its adjustable is just amazing.

The ART filters can be adjusted in the E-PL2...much better than with the E-PL1....I cannot wait to see what could happen with the PRO version PEN....

I am dreaming to write much more on my site about this beauty...hope I find the time....

Best

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[NuFonaut]

Can you please somehow magically make 7 new users appear who spam the board with how awesome the E-PL2 is?

That would balance things out
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[Marla]

Congratulations! Yes, I agree, it's a fine camera. I upgraded from the E-PL1 and am glad I did - the changes were worth it for me.

Enjoy!

Maria

 

[Tim in upstate NY]

The ART filters can be adjusted in the E-PL2...much better than with the E-PL1....I cannot wait to see what could happen with the PRO version PEN....

. . . That's what's holding me back from upgrading from my E-P2. This new flagship PEN that's so painfully slow in coming might be something really special. I've got a real good feeling about what Olympus has in store for those of us who've been patiently waiting for this new camera.

 

[ortho2000]

I too am awaiting the EP3 or whatever name it will have. I have a Panny GH1 with flip screen and i am hoping the new Pen Pro will have it as well. Pen ProEP3 ....Hmm I like that nomenclature.

I have the EPL1. It was ok but I sold it. I like the GH1 but it is slightly "big". If I can not get smaller form factor i will just hang with my bigger Canons and L glass.

Olymous ProEP3 and a 14-150mm Zoom + 20 mm Panny F/1.7 prime ought to make a nice small travel package.

YMMV

 

[oceanmoves]

I cannot understand how "upgrading" from the E-PL1 to the E-PL2 can offer
you value for money. What do you get ? A slightly faster kit lens and some

gradient art filters ? You've now spent at least $1400. And you don't have ISO100.

I'll be sticking with my E-PL1 for a few years until there is a significant
advancement in the field.

Besides the cost, it takes months to fully get a tight grip on the features
and behavior of your machine to get the best out of it - upgrading normally
means going through all that again.

 

[ericN2]

The ART filters can be adjusted in the E-PL2...much better than with the E-PL1....I cannot wait to see what could happen with the PRO version PEN....

. . . That's what's holding me back from upgrading from my E-P2. This new flagship PEN that's so painfully slow in coming might be something really special. I've got a real good feeling about what Olympus has in store for those of us who've been patiently waiting for this new camera.

What about all the time spent in producing the XZ-1... and from what I see at present.. and I was really serious about that camera .. it just , to me, from all that I've seen and read so far, is NOT at all enticing now. I'm NOT a regular RAW shooter and it does seem that such new camera just isn't able to produce good JPGs anything like as well as most other Oly's..indeed like the present PENs of whatever breed.

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[ericN2]

I bought one to get hold of the lens. Then the plan was to sell the body and to keep the lens. Right now I will keep the E-PL2 and will sell the E-P2 body plus old kit lens.

In addition I am strongly considering to even let my SLR go.

I know these are strong statements....but every now and then one come across a product that has it all....I think the E-PL2 is one of those....

Is it worth the upgrade from E-P2?....Absolutely yes!!!

Guys the E-PL2 is packed with features, it can be customized to fit any persons style in every possible mode or shooting style....

Yesterday for example I discovered the curves highlight / shadow function and again WOW Olympus its a winner.

Then iEnhance plus the fact that its adjustable is just amazing.

The ART filters can be adjusted in the E-PL2...much better than with the E-PL1....I cannot wait to see what could happen with the PRO version PEN....

I am dreaming to write much more on my site about this beauty...hope I find the time....

Best

After having had the E-P1 now for about 6 months or so I've really seriously been thinking of updating (if it IS an update) to the E-P2 as there are one or two about at a couple of places here in UK where the price is very good.. body only.

Personally I'm NOT a user of the Art Filters and they offer nothing to me.. but do tell me.. just WHAT is the real reason . or justification, or improvements (otherwise).. DO you get with the E-P2 over the E-P1 ? Isn't the sensor and almost everything the same ?.. I'm really not at all sure exactly what improvements in generally used (main) features I'd get from an E-P2 which I don't have now on the E-P1... lenses I've got what I want , so the thought has been in regard to body alone.. but what DOES the E-P2 do that the E-P1 doesn't.. or what EXTRA ??
I'd love to hear about it please , as it seems YOU have both...

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[sadim1223]

I agree 100%. The fact that the sensors at the heart of these cameras haven't changed in two years is what's keeping me from upgrading.

DXO confirms that the sensors in the Gf1, GF2, EP1, EP2, EPL1, and EPL2 are almost identical. Make ya wonder what's going on at Panasonic R&D.

I also shoot with a Nikon d300s and would love to have that kind of DR and high ISO in one of my 43 bodies.

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[BushmanOrig]

What are the main differences?

Just to correct, I currently have the E-P2 plus the E-PL2

My initial thought was to keep the E-P2 which is the top model and to let the E-PL2 go.

After discovering the E-PL2 these are my thoughts and I list a few thoughts because it easier that way for me:-

• The shutter mechanism on the E-P2 is better I think, its much smoother plus less noisy
• I do not know if IS is better, it was never a issue for me in the pass
• The ergonomics of the E-PL2 is really good, Olympus did a awesome job with that, I even feel comfortable using the 12 - 60 lens on it because its holding is so comfortable
• Even if the ART filters are not of interest, the E-P2 has more and I am sad to loose those not in the E-P2. My advice is go try them, especially the Diorama is a great filter to use. The flexibility of adjusting them adds to the value of having them
• The real difference is setting up the E-PL2 using the Picture Mode in the menu. Its a day and night improvement and to much to discuss here. This is a serious improvement and it lifts the camera to a totally different league
• Same sensor - well becomes irrelevant once the improvement are considered.
• Same sensor - it performs really good, DR using ISO200 as base is on par with the best plus ISO200 is completely clean in my opinion
• The new highlight / shadow curves function is amazing, it works like one would expects curves to do
• The new lens is surprisingly good I find, I like it. I am not completely sold on the add on lenses yet but could decide to go that direction soon, it adds to the usability of this camera - this includes the new options like bluetooth, I bought the macro flash unit and boy is that interesting and creative....
• The iEnhance is in a class of its own. On the E-PL2 it has been integrated into picture modes and now its seriously powerful. No other camera offer this level of flexibility. The user can now seriously tune the output of this camera. I can easily picture "preferred set-up's" doing the rounds in the future
• It could be too advanced for many users - on the surface it looks simple its only when you dig deeper that you see whats been done in this cam.
• There are more, its a camera to be discovered....

I hope this helps.

Siegfried

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[BushmanOrig]

You right, the E-PL1 is good and you can do whatever you need to with it. In fact I have an older Powershot G3 and G6 here and can too.....

Its not really 1400$, I will sell my E-P2 kit and that I add to my total cost....

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[Djordje Jevtovic]

I own E-PL1 now. I had E-P1 before, and tried PL2 in store

-Grip on PL2 is more comfortable than those on P1/2 and PL2.

-1/4000 is important compared to 1/2000 on PL2 with fast lens when shooting in bright sun.
-Better LCD resolution.
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[tomartinh]

I had the same dilema and eventually got the E-PL2 and I'm very happy with it but my needs were slightly different to yours see;

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1041&message=37925505

The one thing I would point out that was a deciding point in the end (for me), is with any interchangeable lens system you're mainly investing in the lens (over the long term), body & sensors will come and go over time but other than adding to my lens collection they will remain fairly static. So the key question for me was what lens system would I prefer to be me more invested in?

 

[453C]

I bought one to get hold of the lens. Then the plan was to sell the body and to keep the lens. Right now I will keep the E-PL2 and will sell the E-P2 body plus old kit lens.

In addition I am strongly considering to even let my SLR go.

I know these are strong statements....but every now and then one come across a product that has it all....I think the E-PL2 is one of those....

Is it worth the upgrade from E-P2?....Absolutely yes!!!

Guys the E-PL2 is packed with features, it can be customized to fit any persons style in every possible mode or shooting style....

Yesterday for example I discovered the curves highlight / shadow function and again WOW Olympus its a winner.

Then iEnhance plus the fact that its adjustable is just amazing.

The ART filters can be adjusted in the E-PL2...much better than with the E-PL1....I cannot wait to see what could happen with the PRO version PEN....

I am dreaming to write much more on my site about this beauty...hope I find the time....

Best

After having had the E-P1 now for about 6 months or so I've really seriously been thinking of updating (if it IS an update) to the E-P2 as there are one or two about at a couple of places here in UK where the price is very good.. body only.

Personally I'm NOT a user of the Art Filters and they offer nothing to me.. but do tell me.. just WHAT is the real reason . or justification, or improvements (otherwise).. DO you get with the E-P2 over the E-P1 ? Isn't the sensor and almost everything the same ?.. I'm really not at all sure exactly what improvements in generally used (main) features I'd get from an E-P2 which I don't have now on the E-P1... lenses I've got what I want , so the thought has been in regard to body alone.. but what DOES the E-P2 do that the E-P1 doesn't.. or what EXTRA ??
I'd love to hear about it please , as it seems YOU have both...

Oddly enough, DPR's new camera comparometer doesn't have the E-P1, but you can open thses two links in side-by-side windows and pick through the spec sheets:

http://www.dpreview.com/products/Olympus/slrs/oly_ep1/review

http://www.dpreview.com/products/Olympus/slrs/oly_ep2/review

IIRC, the major difference is the Accessory Port. If you don't want an EVF, I wouldn't bother going from an E-P1 to an E-P2 unless there's a specific feature the 2 has that you really want.
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[amalric]

I concur wt you main points, especially on iEnhance and Auto Gradation, which are really well implemented.

To me the E-PLx are really 'RF on steroids', and one might as well use their automated modes to one's own advantage, especially if they are tweakable. My own personal gripe with the PL1 is that I have not romm enough on the back for my thumb so I end up pressing the movie button. However I have converted it to MF, so no big issue.

If the coming semipro is too expensive I might get the PL2, especially for the dramatic filter and the new lens.

BTW the fact that these cameras have 2 function buttions is fantastic. And of course one can switch the EVF between the two and the XZ1, which saves money.

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[BushmanOrig]

I concur wt you main points, especially on iEnhance and Auto Gradation, which are really well implemented.

Don't make a mistake, the highlight / shadow control I refer to is not Auto Gradation, its a much more advanced adjustment.

To me the E-PLx are really 'RF on steroids', and one might as well use their automated modes to one's own advantage, especially if they are tweakable. My own personal gripe with the PL1 is that I have not romm enough on the back for my thumb so I end up pressing the movie button. However I have converted it to MF, so no big issue.

If the coming semipro is too expensive I might get the PL2, especially for the dramatic filter and the new lens.

BTW the fact that these cameras have 2 function buttions is fantastic. And of course one can switch the EVF between the two and the XZ1, which saves money.

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[BushmanOrig]

The E-P1 is not being discussed here.

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[tgutgu]

There is no bias against an EPL-2 or pro as well as against or pro Panasonic cameras. You should not conclude from the reoccurring red-dot threads (which are justified as long Olympus does not make statements about the "issue") that there is bias towards negative EPL-2 comments (even a bias can be justified if the camera isn't so good).

The EPL-2 has shortcomings (most notably the user interface), which are deal breakers to some (including me) as any other camera has problems.

Can you please somehow magically make 7 new users appear who spam the board with how awesome the E-PL2 is?

That would balance things out
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[453C]

The E-P1 is not being discussed here.

Really?

ericN2 wrote:

After having had the E-P1 now for about 6 months or so I've really seriously been thinking of updating (if it IS an update) to the E-P2 as there are one or two about at a couple of places here in UK where the price is very good.. body only.

Personally I'm NOT a user of the Art Filters and they offer nothing to me.. but do tell me.. just WHAT is the real reason . or justification, or improvements (otherwise).. DO you get with the E-P2 over the E-P1 ? Isn't the sensor and almost everything the same ?.. I'm really not at all sure exactly what improvements in generally used (main) features I'd get from an E-P2 which I don't have now on the E-P1... lenses I've got what I want , so the thought has been in regard to body alone.. but what DOES the E-P2 do that the E-P1 doesn't.. or what EXTRA ??
I'd love to hear about it please , as it seems YOU have both...

I know you've got happy pants about your E-PL2, but ericN2 specifically asked about differences between the E-P1 and the E-P2, and I quoted him in my original response. I don't know why he asked about the E-P1 & 2 in your E-PL2 thread, but he did.
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[NuFonaut]

I have absolutely no problem with the E-PL2 being critizised. Quite the opposite, in my opinion direct criticism is necessary to show the companies what we want. That is why i do not only critizise my own M4/3 camera (GF1) but in some aspects M4/3s as a whole (there is a current thread where i did just that yesterday).

What i do not appreciate is troll like criticism aimed at a company as a whole disguised as camera critique. It is apparent that the new user(s) popping up just to critizise the E-PL2 don´t have any (or very little) experience with the camera and just come here to attack Olympus and "help" Panasonic. This destroys the forum culture and plants seeds of distrust.

In the end not only people interested in the best camera lose but we all. The E-PL2 is not interesting for me for different reasons, neither is the GF2.

The first camera which releases and up-to date rangefinder style M4/3 will get my praise. I even have some praise for the NEX and i´m not exactly a fan of Sony.

There is no bias against an EPL-2 or pro as well as against or pro Panasonic cameras. You should not conclude from the reoccurring red-dot threads (which are justified as long Olympus does not make statements about the "issue") that there is bias towards negative EPL-2 comments (even a bias can be justified if the camera isn't so good).

The EPL-2 has shortcomings (most notably the user interface), which are deal breakers to some (including me) as any other camera has problems.

Can you please somehow magically make 7 new users appear who spam the board with how awesome the E-PL2 is?

That would balance things out
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