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Hi all,

Everybody wants to know if there will be a successor to the E-20. The answer is NO.

I attended the COMDEX show today in Las Vegas and went straight to the Olympus booth to get the answer. I spoke with several Oly people about this and most of them were suspiciously vague on the subject. I finally cornered one tech person and after some intense interrogation he finally admitted to me (strictly off the record, mind you) that Olympus has NO plans to continue the E-xx series. The company is not working on anything along these lines. The main reason being that the basic design of the camera doesn't easily accommodate the next generation of image sensors.

I also got the feeling, based on what he was saying, that Oly took a real beating on the E-xx product line. He said that an extremely high number of units were returned due to defects in focusing and shutter failure. (As if we didn't already know that!)

The good (??) news is that Oly is developing a removable lens model that will utilize the next generations of image sensors. He had no idea, however, when it will be introduced.

Also, no models are planned that will utilize the TCON-300 extention lens design.

So there you have it. Unconfirmed confirmation that the E-xx series is DEAD. If you're thinking of getting the latest prosumer digital SLR camera, don't wait for Olympus, get a Canon or Nikon.

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Eric Coleman, reporting today from COMDEX
 
This is pretty much in line what my local camera store (Competitive Camera) told me before Photokina.
eric coleman said:
Hi all,

Everybody wants to know if there will be a successor to the E-20.
The answer is NO.

I attended the COMDEX show today in Las Vegas and went straight to
the Olympus booth to get the answer. I spoke with several Oly
people about this and most of them were suspiciously vague on the
subject. I finally cornered one tech person and after some intense
interrogation he finally admitted to me (strictly off the record,
mind you) that Olympus has NO plans to continue the E-xx series.
The company is not working on anything along these lines. The main
reason being that the basic design of the camera doesn't easily
accommodate the next generation of image sensors.

I also got the feeling, based on what he was saying, that Oly took
a real beating on the E-xx product line. He said that an extremely
high number of units were returned due to defects in focusing and
shutter failure. (As if we didn't already know that!)

The good (??) news is that Oly is developing a removable lens model
that will utilize the next generations of image sensors. He had no
idea, however, when it will be introduced.

Also, no models are planned that will utilize the TCON-300
extention lens design.

So there you have it. Unconfirmed confirmation that the E-xx series
is DEAD. If you're thinking of getting the latest prosumer digital
SLR camera, don't wait for Olympus, get a Canon or Nikon.

------------------
Eric Coleman, reporting today from COMDEX
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Am I sorry I am a new owner of the E-10. NO! This camera will stand me in good stead for a few years and it looks like the half-life of a digital camera is about 2 - 3 years. By that time technology will have made some advances and I will be on the hunt for an upgrade. In the meantime, what is behind the camera is more important than the equipment itself. I don't need the latest and greatest as I am not a professional photographer.

I shot thousands of pictures with my Canon PowerShot S300 and I felt it was time to take a bit more control of my scenic pictures. The E-10 gives me about as much control as I can handle at this moment. I don't get the feeling I will quickly outgrow this camera.

Now if only I had a camera that captured 5 Meg pixels, had 10X optical zoom, permitted complete manual control, had a macro that would focus down to 2 cm and it fit into my vest pocket and no one would notice. This is what I am looking for.

Lowell
 
eric coleman said:
Hi all,

Everybody wants to know if there will be a successor to the E-20.
The answer is NO.
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Eric Coleman said:
The good (??) news is that Oly is developing a removable lens model
that will utilize the next generations of image sensors. He had no
idea, however, when it will be introduced.

Also, no models are planned that will utilize the TCON-300
extention lens design.

So there you have it. Unconfirmed confirmation that the E-xx series
is DEAD. If you're thinking of getting the latest prosumer digital
SLR camera, don't wait for Olympus, get a Canon or Nikon.
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I'm not sure I follow your logic. An E-XX is quite a good tool for now for those who do not own legacy glass from Canon or Nikon. At the present prices they are quite a bargain. I have not invested in a TCON-300 for reasons you state above. But this news certainly wouldn't prevent me from continuing to wait for the Olympus 4/3 system. At present pricing the E-XX is quite a bargain really.

Maybe I am missing something, but I'm not following the logic here.

Mike Veglia
http://www.motorsportvisions.com
 
And I posted it a few days ago. Still, no believers. I dont think they ever will. That's okay because I will be driving my 1975 Honda Civic CVCC and shooting with my 1Ds. (No, Honda, I dont drive a CVCC.)

GageFX
John W. said:
Member said:
So there you have it. Unconfirmed confirmation that the E-xx series
is DEAD. If you're thinking of getting the latest prosumer digital
SLR camera, don't wait for Olympus, get a Canon or Nikon.
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...but nobody wanted to believe it !!!!!
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=3034408
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John W
No equipment worth talking about....!!!
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--

E-10, LiPo, FL-40, Stroboframe 120 QF, Lumiquest Softbox, Speedotron Force 10s, AlienBees, HP P1100, Epson 777, Epson 1280
 
gagefx said:
And I posted it a few days ago. Still, no believers. I dont think
they ever will. That's okay because I will be driving my 1975 Honda
Civic CVCC and shooting with my 1Ds. (No, Honda, I dont drive a
CVCC.)
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I will be driving my 1Ds
...and shooting my Honda Civic CVCC.

The 1Ds has a heck of an overdrive! V-v-room-m-m!
--
Cheers,
markE
  • Oly E-20, LiPo, FL-40, WCON, TCON, Wacom Graphire II, Epson PS 820
-Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/marke

 
It's not that we don't believe you, it's just that as little as 2 months ago Oly was still saying the Ex0 line was alive and kicking. The rep who said that could have been misinformed or blowing smoke. It's also possible that they changed their minds since then.

I'm just going to take a wait and see approach. If it's dead, it's dead. If not, I hope they made all of the improvements everyone on this forum asked for.
gagefx said:
GageFX
John W. said:
Rembvrijn said:
So there you have it. Unconfirmed confirmation that the E-xx series
is DEAD. If you're thinking of getting the latest prosumer digital
SLR camera, don't wait for Olympus, get a Canon or Nikon.
Click to expand...
...but nobody wanted to believe it !!!!!
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=3034408
--
John W
No equipment worth talking about....!!!
Click to expand...
--
E-10, LiPo, FL-40, Stroboframe 120 QF, Lumiquest Softbox,
Speedotron Force 10s, AlienBees, HP P1100, Epson 777, Epson 1280
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I think (maybe) he's saying don't hold your breath waiting for an E-30.

I agree with you. The E-10 is still the same camera it was 2 years ago. When you buy it it's not like you are investing in a whole bunch of glass that is now worthless. Just yesterday I recomended an E-10 to somebody who asked about a good learning camera. As long as they are on the shelf, I will continue to recomend them.
msvphoto said:
I'm not sure I follow your logic. An E-XX is quite a good tool for
now for those who do not own legacy glass from Canon or Nikon. At
the present prices they are quite a bargain. I have not invested in
a TCON-300 for reasons you state above. But this news certainly
wouldn't prevent me from continuing to wait for the Olympus 4/3
system. At present pricing the E-XX is quite a bargain really.

Maybe I am missing something, but I'm not following the logic here.

Mike Veglia
http://www.motorsportvisions.com
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I enjoy visiting this forum to see how others are using their E series cameras. A lot of good information and how to's can always be found. It is a shame that some people have to share their negative thoughts about these products. There are a lot of good digital cameras out there and the E series camera is one of them. There will always be a newer, better camera around the corner, but how about enjoying what is available now. I have seen some beautiful shots taken with the E10 and E20 posted on this forum by very talented photographers. Most of these people focus on the positive capabilities that these cameras offer.

If you don't like the E series, that's fine. Choose a different system. But please don't muck up this forum with information that really isn't helpful for those of us who do feel the E series is a good, useable piece of equipment.

Thanks to all of those who post all the helpful tips and tricks.
 
There you are Gage!!!!

Thought you may have figured out that you were in the wrong forum and went back to Canon!!!!

In any case, I think Olympus is just about to kick the bucket. If you look at just how many conflicting rumours there have been you have to say..to hell with them. Just look at the Fuji, Nikon, and (sorry to say) Canon forums...everyone there is always looking at the future and of how to get their cameras in best working order. All mostly positive stuff. From Olympus, we just get yes,no,yes,no,yes,no,yes,no. If this company cannot figure themselves out, it is just not worth the effort to give them business.
gagefx said:
GageFX
John W. said:
Rembvrijn said:
So there you have it. Unconfirmed confirmation that the E-xx series
is DEAD. If you're thinking of getting the latest prosumer digital
SLR camera, don't wait for Olympus, get a Canon or Nikon.
Click to expand...
...but nobody wanted to believe it !!!!!
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=3034408
--
John W
No equipment worth talking about....!!!
Click to expand...
--
E-10, LiPo, FL-40, Stroboframe 120 QF, Lumiquest Softbox,
Speedotron Force 10s, AlienBees, HP P1100, Epson 777, Epson 1280
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I have a E10 which i use with 1600x1200 resulution because for 90% of the non-pro's that's ENOUGH. Ik can print it on A4 size without seeing it's digital.

It's a camera with a learning curve but when you take the time to learn it can do everything you want/need.

The E-xx has a very good lens which is designed for the camera, very good interaction.
Now the overhyped DSlr's:

They have interchangable lenses but.....you need a VERY good (read expensive) lens to match the capabilities of that camera's.

Those camera's are not good with cheaper lenses and then there is the multiplier factor (or you need a full-frame sensor, more expensive), there are few lenses that can do 35-140 like the Oly with it's 2.0-2.4 sensitivity.

Most of us are spending $$$$$ on Dslr's but most of us are just amateurs who don't make their living out of Photography.
Question:

Who spend that amount of money with analog camera's? I guess that only a few spent big bucks on an EOS-1V because almost everyone found it way too expensive for a camera..........and now we pay that same amount of money for a digital SLR which can't match those quality of analog camera's.
I think it's all behind the ears....and overhyped

--
E10-WCON08B-TCON14B-LiPO grip-FL40 & E100RS

 
newe said:
There you are Gage!!!!

Thought you may have figured out that you were in the wrong forum
and went back to Canon!!!!

In any case, I think Olympus is just about to kick the bucket. If
you look at just how many conflicting rumours there have been you
have to say..to hell with them. Just look at the Fuji, Nikon, and
(sorry to say) Canon forums...everyone there is always looking at
the future and of how to get their cameras in best working order.
All mostly positive stuff. From Olympus, we just get
yes,no,yes,no,yes,no,yes,no. If this company cannot figure
themselves out, it is just not worth the effort to give them
business.
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Sometimes the best camera companies don't know how to market well.
And sometimes the best marketing companies don't make the best cameras.

That said, I still have no predictions. I'm just going to shoot some pictures now. :)
--Cheers,
markE
  • Oly E-20, LiPo, FL-40, WCON, TCON, Wacom Graphire II, Epson PS 820
-Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/marke

 
------------ trying to reach a stage where good film SLRs were before we switched. Even the best and most expensive SLRs are not close enough by a fair margin.

Olympus had a great product but failed to see its potential, they still fail to see its potential – but that’s a boardroom decision and actually nothing to do with Olympus, which is only another branded product.

Of all of them, Olympus were so tantalisingly close, that if they ever actually find out how close – most of them will take the honourable way out for making bad decisions.

Ages ago I predicted that Olympus would reap the whirlwind on the Exx if they did not listen to their customers – strangely as we live in a more communicative environment, boardrooms still consider themselves impervious to public opinion.

..........and now we pay
rob van den broek said:
that same amount of money for a digital SLR which can't match those
quality of analog camera's.
I think it's all behind the ears....and overhyped
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William David McMahan said:
I enjoy visiting this forum to see how others are using their E
series cameras. A lot of good information and how to's can always
be found. It is a shame that some people have to share their
negative thoughts about these products. There are a lot of good
digital cameras out there and the E series camera is one of them.
There will always be a newer, better camera around the corner, but
how about enjoying what is available now. I have seen some
beautiful shots taken with the E10 and E20 posted on this forum by
very talented photographers. Most of these people focus on the
positive capabilities that these cameras offer.

If you don't like the E series, that's fine. Choose a different
system. But please don't muck up this forum with information that
really isn't helpful for those of us who do feel the E series is a
good, useable piece of equipment.

Thanks to all of those who post all the helpful tips and tricks.
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TrentMcD said:
I think (maybe) he's saying don't hold your breath waiting for an
E-30.

I agree with you. The E-10 is still the same camera it was 2 years
ago. When you buy it it's not like you are investing in a whole
bunch of glass that is now worthless. Just yesterday I recomended
an E-10 to somebody who asked about a good learning camera. As
long as they are on the shelf, I will continue to recomend them.
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I'll do the same. I still have mine as my backup camera altho' it has dawned on me that I might be better off, 'space wise', to sell my E10 and accessories (WA Tele, grip and flash) and buy a used D30 body for backup. That way I would only be carrying one system around for my commercial work. That would be the only reason, though, that I would sell--my camera is great, terrific pics--and why would that change. However, I needed more so I moved on--but I did keep it because I like the camera very much. I have recommended it more than one time.

--
Diane B
http://www.pbase.com/picnic/galleries
B/W lover, but color is seducing me
 
eric coleman said:
the E-xx series
is DEAD. If you're thinking of getting the latest prosumer digital
SLR camera, don't wait for Olympus, get a Canon or Nikon.
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On the other hand, if an E-20 does the job, why not buy one? Prices have plummeted. I've seen it advertised for under $1000.

One should buy hi-tech because it solves TODAY's problem, not tomorrow's. Otherwise, you'll either always be waiting for "the next thing," or you'll always be whining and moaning when "the next thing" comes out the day after you bought yesterday's wunderbox.

--
Jan Steinman -- [email protected]
Bytesmiths -- http://www.bytesmiths.com
 
Funny how one does not have that problem with film...
Jan Steinman said:
eric coleman said:
the E-xx series
is DEAD. If you're thinking of getting the latest prosumer digital
SLR camera, don't wait for Olympus, get a Canon or Nikon.
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On the other hand, if an E-20 does the job, why not buy one? Prices
have plummeted. I've seen it advertised for under $1000.

One should buy hi-tech because it solves TODAY's problem, not
tomorrow's. Otherwise, you'll either always be waiting for "the
next thing," or you'll always be whining and moaning when "the next
thing" comes out the day after you bought yesterday's wunderbox.

--
Jan Steinman -- [email protected]
Bytesmiths -- http://www.bytesmiths.com
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William David McMahan said:
If you don't like the E series, that's fine. Choose a different
system. But please don't muck up this forum with information that
really isn't helpful for those of us who do feel the E series is a
good, useable piece of equipment.
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There are also people looking to buy a new camera, and they want to get as much information as possible. I agree that messages like "my DSLR is great and your camera is useless" are not particularly helpful and out-of-line.

However, non-positive posts that talk about photographic issues can help people in making buying decsion(s). I am interested in finding out what are the great features of the E-xx series, but also what are the limitations and if there are any other cameras that overcome these limitations. There is no need for people to take this personally and get defensive.

I don't mean to offend anyone, but I have observed that some people in this forum tend to sometimes get a bit too defensive when someone posts a non-positive Olympus message...
 
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1008&message=3800389
eric coleman said:
Hi all,

Everybody wants to know if there will be a successor to the E-20.
The answer is NO.

I attended the COMDEX show today in Las Vegas and went straight to
the Olympus booth to get the answer. I spoke with several Oly
people about this and most of them were suspiciously vague on the
subject. I finally cornered one tech person and after some intense
interrogation he finally admitted to me (strictly off the record,
mind you) that Olympus has NO plans to continue the E-xx series.
The company is not working on anything along these lines. The main
reason being that the basic design of the camera doesn't easily
accommodate the next generation of image sensors.

I also got the feeling, based on what he was saying, that Oly took
a real beating on the E-xx product line. He said that an extremely
high number of units were returned due to defects in focusing and
shutter failure. (As if we didn't already know that!)

The good (??) news is that Oly is developing a removable lens model
that will utilize the next generations of image sensors. He had no
idea, however, when it will be introduced.

Also, no models are planned that will utilize the TCON-300
extention lens design.

So there you have it. Unconfirmed confirmation that the E-xx series
is DEAD. If you're thinking of getting the latest prosumer digital
SLR camera, don't wait for Olympus, get a Canon or Nikon.

------------------
Eric Coleman, reporting today from COMDEX
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