The Real GH2 Story From an Amateur Perspective

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I thought I would help amateur "enthusiast" photographers make a decision about the GH2. I apologize for the length of this post, but I do hope it will be helpful to some.

The GH2 is my first SLR-type camera. I had been using P&S cameras plus a Canon "superzoom," but I found that those around me with DSLRs were nailing shots that I missed with my cameras (not through photography expertise, but through faster AF etc.) I mostly take snapshots of my kids in action, plus 10-20 second video clips, but occasionally I get a bit "artsy" and take some nature shots or "street photography." I had held-off on purchasing an SLR-type camera due to cost, size, and lack of quality video, but the GH2 seemed to address some of those issues.

To me, there are three classes of cameras: 1. Not pocketable, 2. Discretely Pocketable (P&S), and 3. Pocketable, but not discretely.

I don't consider any of the Panasonic G-series to be pocketable, even with the pancake lenses. Frankly, I don't consider the GF and EPL cameras to be pocketable either, especially in the summer ("is that a GF2 in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?"). The LX5 and XZ1 are pocketable, but not really discretely.

I am not an industry expert, but suspect that the P&S sector is taking a huge hit because of the camera and video capabilities of smart phones (such as the iPhone) and cel phones. Most readers on this forum will scoff at the idea of shooting with an iPhone, but for many consumers they are adequate for casually documenting events, plus they have their phone with them most of the time anyway, and don't see much added benefit in carrying a P&S. So I suspect that this HUGE market sector will look to carry a significantly better camera (e.g. M4/3 or DSLR), or no camera at all! This bodes well for M4/3, considering the size advantage.

For me, I still have a role for my P&S, and still use it 60% of the time, but today I am going to buy an iPhone, so we'll see what happens.

Honestly, I don't really see where the the GF and EPLs fit-in other than being less expensive, because they are not truely pocketable and give up so much in the way of features and video. I didn't consider a Sony Nex camera because the lens sizes have to be large for it's APS-C sensor, so the size advantage isn't as good as with M4/3. I suppose I could have had a look at the mirrorless Samsung, but I felt more comfortable with the Panny/Olympus brands.

So I purchased a GH2 with the kit 14-140, plus the 20 mm Panny. At first I thought I had blown too much cash, and could have done fine with the XZ1, but today I saw the light, and have come to love my GH2. The video at 60 fps is, to me, worth the extra cost and size. The touch-screen focus functions are fantastic, ESPECIALLY FOR VIDEO. The size and weight advantage over DSLR in the body isn't much, but in the lenses it is HUGE! The EVF focus-assist is amazing, and I don't think I would be brave enough to use manual focus as much without it! Being able to shoot in low light with the 20 mm and higher ISOs is adequate for me. For those amateurs who are thinking about making the leap from P&S, I see no better alternative. Carry your iPhone or P&S for casual shots, and a GH2 when you want to nail the birthday shots or get a little serious with photos and movies.

I am not accustomed to a manual zoom, and my biggest GH2 struggle is trying to zoom smoothly while shooting video, but I'm hoping this will improve with practice. Smooth zooming was so easy with my superzoom.

Most amateurs will struggle with the price, but if you want great video then you have no other choice! If you want to upgrade from P&S now, but find the GH2 prohibitively expensive, then buy a G1 and start accumulating M4/3 lenses, then upgrade the body in a few years. If you are concerned about the cost of RAW conversion software then purchase Aperture for $79.99 (Mac users).

Why was today a breakthrough for me? I have incurred a sports injury (if you call pulling a groin while putting on a ski boot a "sports" injury). I have been forced to slow down and take time to "smell the roses," so I took a stroll around a nearby lake. I brought with me the GH2 with the 20mm pancake. Not only did I nail "large sensor" shots that I could not get with my P&S, but I found the size and weight barely noticeable on an hour long walk. One day I might have the courage to post my photos for your comments!

I struggled with my upgrade decision, and I hope this helps other amateurs that are considering making the plunge. When shooting in difficult situations (low light, moving subject etc.) I found that with my P&S one out of every ten shots was a "keeper." With my superzoom, it was one out of every 7. With my GH2 it's one out of every 4...not perfect, but neither is the operator!

PK
 
PK:

Thanks very much for this frank and complete review - very helpful

Jack Winberg
 
Thanks for your review. Your point of view is very close to mine although I am still a little hesitant to pull the trigger and buy the GH2 due to its cost.

Please show us some GH2 shots that make you feel so enthousiastic.
 
I agree with pretty much everything you said except for zooming while filming. I never see a need to use it in the final video. If I do have to zoom while filming I will just edit it out after wards.

Try the ETC mode out. Shoot with the 20mm F1.7 outside on a Sunny day and turn the ETC mode on in the 1080p @ 24 FPS mode with a 1/50th shutter speed. You will find that you rarely need to zoom in that mode. And when you feel it is absolutely necessary to zoom the ETC mode will give you about the same depth of field that a super zoom P&S has. If you get the zoom lever it will help with the smoothness of your zoom.

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GH2, GF1, & ZS3 Sample movies
http://www.youtube.com/user/mpgxsvcd#play/uploads
http://vimeo.com/user442745
GF1 Pictures
http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/4222674355/albums
 
The cost did make me step back and consider DSLRs like the D7000 and 60d, but when you look at the size of those compared to the GH2, it was a no brainer. I can see where lots of DSLR shooters will get the GH2 for a second camera for the convenience and fun of it.

There are m43 models that are less expensive, but when you look at what you get it is hard to turn down the GH2. For starters you have better video and stills, a better sensor, built in EVF, ETC, and the better 14-140mm at a discounted price. Just the viewfinder alone and you are not far off the cost of the GH2.

Then there are the smaller lenses. I seem to do a lot of walking around and the smaller package is a big deal that seals the deal for the m43.
 
While most more experienced videographers won't ever zoom during video, it is a fairly popular thing for amateur video.

People think its a cool effect being able to zoom in rather than do a cut during editing (many don't even do post editing)

As such, for a select demographic I think it is a valid point.

If you are going to zoom (and I"m not saying one should or shouldn't) it is easier with an electronic zoom control to get a nice smooth effect.

I love physical zoom rings otherwise, but for video they are awkward I agree
I agree with pretty much everything you said except for zooming while filming. I never see a need to use it in the final video. If I do have to zoom while filming I will just edit it out after wards.

Try the ETC mode out. Shoot with the 20mm F1.7 outside on a Sunny day and turn the ETC mode on in the 1080p @ 24 FPS mode with a 1/50th shutter speed. You will find that you rarely need to zoom in that mode. And when you feel it is absolutely necessary to zoom the ETC mode will give you about the same depth of field that a super zoom P&S has. If you get the zoom lever it will help with the smoothness of your zoom.

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GH2, GF1, & ZS3 Sample movies
http://www.youtube.com/user/mpgxsvcd#play/uploads
http://vimeo.com/user442745
GF1 Pictures
http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/4222674355/albums
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http://www.millsartphotography.com
 
Thanks very much for your post. I am in a similar position with a Canon superzoom, and am not sure about the $premium for a GH2. In fact, I see that GH1s (body only) can be found for about $400, and I wonder if a collection of lenses such as a 14, 20 and 45-200 might not be worth the trade against a GH2 with 14-140 and a 20.

The nailing shots struck home. I have missed many a shot because the Canon, as good as it is, was slow to react. Now I have more confidence that perhaps life can be a little easier, although the lack of a power zoom is something to consider...
 
Honestly, I don't really see where the the GF and EPLs fit-in other than being less expensive, because they are not truely pocketable and give up so much in the way of features and video.
Sounds like you wanted an SLR type body because you like that style, fair enough and the GH2 suits you nicely, personally getting away from the SLR form factor is exactly the reason why i'm in m43, I have an SLR for when I need an SLR.
 
In a very similar situation. Canon superzoom, about to get an iPhone, missing to many shots (too few keepers), slow focus........
Still struggling with the decision to choose between GH2 or NEX5 though.
Your experience and input is of great help.
Thank you very much.
 
You know, in many ways, my SX10IS spoiled me because I have an articulated LCD and an EVF, which I use most of the time, probably because old film shooting habits die hard, none of this arms out shooting for me...well, I have lighted up a bit because IS really works.

Anyway, I looked at the Sony NEX and the lack of a EVF is a real negative to me, I have just been in too many sunny situations where the LCD is highly compromised.

I have also been in a numerous situations where a separate flash in the hot shoe has been invaluable because the pop up flashes are next to useless more than a few feet away...this is what prevents me from considering a GF-x or EP-x, because I love that EVF and flash...so I keep coming back to a SLR like format....not that anyone cares, but that is what is driving me to m43....
 
I'm a recent GH1 buyer (same set of lenses as you, 14-140 and 20mm) but am coming from DSLR to micro four thirds. To be fair I still have and use my DSLR but for nearly two years my path has been to M43.

The GH1, while DSLR-like is still much more compact. I had an E-P1 for nearly two years and I agree, while it has pocket-ish qualities its not a "mini" camera and when I wanted to move up to something with a good electronic view finder (getting critical focus with third party lenses via the LCD makes me go cross eyed).

I still use my DSLR when using external lighting (strobes) or for higher ISO, but other than that M43 takes care of 80% of what I want/need for stills. The video capabilities are spooky good and that was a big factor in choosing the GH1.
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Aroundomaha
http://aroundomaha.smugmug.com/EP1
 
I have no interest in video, but the GH2 has a very quick AF and decent IQ. As noted, the difference in size/weight of the body vs small APS-C camera is not huge, but the diference when comparing lenses IS !!!

Here's a comparsion of results using Canon 1D MarkIV @600mm (L) vs GH2+100-300 @300mm (R). 15lbs vs 1.5 lbs .



The GH2 is also pretty good, sometimes, at nailing action.



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Sadja
http://www.sadja.smugmug.com
http://www.pbase.com/sadja
 
Honestly, I don't really see where the the GF and EPLs fit-in other than being less expensive, because they are not truely pocketable and give up so much in the way of features and video.
Sounds like you wanted an SLR type body because you like that style, fair enough and the GH2 suits you nicely, personally getting away from the SLR form factor is exactly the reason why i'm in m43, I have an SLR for when I need an SLR.
. . . Exactly how I feel as well. There's something aesthetically wrong with making a camera look like something that it isn't for me. If there's no mirror box, why make it look like there is? When the first m4/3 camera arrived on the market it was the G1 and I was totally annoyed with what they had done by mimicking the appearance of a DSLR. When the E-P1 and then the GF1 came along, I was suddenly in love with m4/3.
 
Tim in upstate NY wrote:
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. . . Exactly how I feel as well. There's something aesthetically wrong with making a camera look like something that it isn't for me. If there's no mirror box, why make it look like there is?
Minor nitpick: I think you're talking about the prism, not the mirror box.
When the first m4/3 camera arrived on the market it was the G1 and I was totally annoyed with what they had done by mimicking the appearance of a DSLR. When the E-P1 and then the GF1 came along, I was suddenly in love with m4/3.
Personally, I don't care much about the appearance. If it's small enough and happens to look like an SLR, that's fine with me. In comparing my GH2 to a GF and an EP with an EVF attached , I don't find the GH2 to be significally larger or bulkier. For an m43 camera with a great EVF and flip/twist LCD, I wouldn't expect it to be a lot smaller than it is. I suppose they could lose the right-hand grip although that could hurt the ergonomics. They could also reduce how far forward the flash bump protrudes, but that would reduce flash height.

As long as the ergonomics didn't suffer, I wouldn't mind if a GH successor were made smaller. But for a first iteration, I thought the G/GH series bodies are pretty good. Maybe it's because I've spent too much time carrying my D300 and its various zooms that I find the G/GH cameras to be very small, even smaller than my D60.

I have played with a GF and EP. Aesthetically they're very nice, but I absolutely hate the fact that they have no EVF, and I'm not a fan of the add-on EVF.

larsbc
 
You know, in many ways, my SX10IS spoiled me because I have an articulated LCD and an EVF, which I use most of the time, probably because old film shooting habits die hard, none of this arms out shooting for me...well, I have lighted up a bit because IS really works.
I seem to like the LCD's and only need about 8" or so....putting camera at arm length is Way too far away,for holding camera stable, I would think.
Anyway, I looked at the Sony NEX and the lack of a EVF is a real negative to me, I have just been in too many sunny situations where the LCD is highly compromised.

I have also been in a numerous situations where a separate flash in the hot shoe has been invaluable because the pop up flashes are next to useless more than a few feet away...this is what prevents me from considering a GF-x or EP-x, because I love that EVF and flash...so I keep coming back to a SLR like format....not that anyone cares, but that is what is driving me to m43....
You might like the m 4/3 over a D-SLR

ANAYV
 
Personally, I don't care much about the appearance. If it's small enough and happens to look like an SLR, that's fine with me. In comparing my GH2 to a GF and an EP with an EVF attached , I don't find the GH2 to be significally larger or bulkier. For an m43 camera with a great EVF and flip/twist LCD, I wouldn't expect it to be a lot smaller than it is. I suppose they could lose the right-hand grip although that could hurt the ergonomics. They could also reduce how far forward the flash bump protrudes, but that would reduce flash height.
I'm a big guy and I have pretty big hands. I want a small camera, but not too small. For me, the G1/GH2 that I have fit the category perfectly. The shape fits perfectly in my hand allows all the control I need without being any larger.

I have a D-LUX4 (LX3) which I love but it's a little on the small side for my hands. Again, I wouldn't want the GH2 to be any smaller, and I wouldn't want it to be any larger, either.
 
Both forms have their advantages and disadvantages.

IMO the shape of the GH2 is ideal for users who want: a) large in body EVF, b) built in flash with power equal to that of a DSLR, and c) 3 inch articlulating LCD. Thus, I don't don't think you can assume that the G and GH cameras were intentionally designed to mimic DSLRs.
 
Honestly, I don't really see where the the GF and EPLs fit-in other than being less expensive, because they are not truly pocketable and give up so much in the way of features and video.
Sounds like you wanted an SLR type body because you like that style, fair enough and the GH2 suits you nicely, personally getting away from the SLR form factor is exactly the reason why i'm in m43, I have an SLR for when I need an SLR.
Oh, duh! The "form factor". And you have an SLR for when you need an SLR. Like when? So you carry round the SLR plus your P&S style m4/3 ... Sounds more like s body building course than enjoyable, amateur photography.

The "form factor" has nothing to do with why I have a G1 rather than a GF -- functionality as a photographic machine does. I can do SLR or P&S style shooting with just the one camera -- and the outfit is little larger and weighs only a little more than your P&S.

AND I have an articulated 3" screen if I want to use that for shooting from non-standard PoV.

Please don't make extravagant claims about brightness of viewfinders. My EVF is find in bright light and absolutely slaughters your mirror and pentaprism thing when it's dim.

We can also forget extravagant claims about IQ from your SLR. The IQ of the G1 is just find for both amateur and 99% of professional needs -- and I believe that with the new sensor, the GH2 is even better.

Cheers, geoff
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Geoffrey Heard
http://pngtimetraveller.blogspot.com/2010/03/happy-as-pig-in-mud.html
 
I have both a G1 and GF1. I prefer shooting with the G1 for just the reasons you stated. I have the aux. EVF and its okay but surely not anywhere as good as my G1s. Also no tilt LCD and the grip is insufficient for me. I have shot with DSLRs for years and don't really care as long as the camera is ergonomically pleasant to shoot with and the G1 is for me. The G1 is small enough for me, in fact I dont want to shoot with a smaller camera. I still have a big FF DSLR but I choose to shoot most of the time with the G1--and expect that I will add the GH2---though I am waiting to order until the G3 is announced.

Diane
. . . Exactly how I feel as well. There's something aesthetically wrong with making a camera look like something that it isn't for me. If there's no mirror box, why make it look like there is?
Minor nitpick: I think you're talking about the prism, not the mirror box.
When the first m4/3 camera arrived on the market it was the G1 and I was totally annoyed with what they had done by mimicking the appearance of a DSLR. When the E-P1 and then the GF1 came along, I was suddenly in love with m4/3.
Personally, I don't care much about the appearance. If it's small enough and happens to look like an SLR, that's fine with me. In comparing my GH2 to a GF and an EP with an EVF attached , I don't find the GH2 to be significally larger or bulkier. For an m43 camera with a great EVF and flip/twist LCD, I wouldn't expect it to be a lot smaller than it is. I suppose they could lose the right-hand grip although that could hurt the ergonomics. They could also reduce how far forward the flash bump protrudes, but that would reduce flash height.

As long as the ergonomics didn't suffer, I wouldn't mind if a GH successor were made smaller. But for a first iteration, I thought the G/GH series bodies are pretty good. Maybe it's because I've spent too much time carrying my D300 and its various zooms that I find the G/GH cameras to be very small, even smaller than my D60.

I have played with a GF and EP. Aesthetically they're very nice, but I absolutely hate the fact that they have no EVF, and I'm not a fan of the add-on EVF.

larsbc
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