Email exchange with !Ds Ebay scammer

I think that idiotic crook is doing the world a favor. Any idiot who gets conned by that idiot deserves it. Stupidity should be weeded out. Stupid genes should not be passed on. The less money he has on hand means less chance of meeting a mate to mate with, thus producing an offspring.
 
The "seller" (a.k.a. crook, swindler, hoodlum, etc) now says
I ship from Moldova via FEdEx
(who naturally do not service Moldova). By the way, his email was sent to me through a dialup POP in (or near) Paris, France.

Moldova...sheesh...this is beginning to sound like a bad rip-off of the Marx Brothers' "Night At The Opera"...sing along with me...

Hail, Hail Freedonia!

:-)
 
Hi.

I m sorry but I dont have a working digital camera.

About our deal I ll send it to you if you send me how much do you want first and after
you ll receive and inspect the camera -send me the rest.Maibe we could work at

this.I dont know how much will be the shippp and insurance and onestly I dont have
money for that.Let me know if we can work.Thank you.

Best Wishes,
Coiculescu Ion.

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If you have a digital camera, could take a picture of the
paper and send it with E-Mail.

Do you have a fax machine? If Yes, please fax the paper
to the following number: (not before 5 pm)
+43 3133 30527

Or Is there a homepage of the romanian costum where
I can see that there was an auction for this camera?

Sorry, but I want to see something about it. It doesn=B4t
mean something negative, but because it=B4s no normal
ebay-auction - so it=B4s not as easy to trust somebody as
at a normal auction, especially at this price!
I know that there are laws in your country, but I don=B4t
speak your language and the police in austria would
laugh and tell me that I=B4m silly to send 1000 $
somebody who I don=B4t know and where I even don=B4t
know If he has the camera.
1000 $ is much money for me, even it=B4s not much
money for this, so I want some security.

Thanks
jkjk
Hi.

I m sorry but in this moment I dont have a working
scaner.I m a honest man who live in a country with laws
too.About the ensure ,if you ware in my place ,you ll take
the risk to cheat people and have the police on your
door in a few days?????I dont think so!!!I m in this
position....Liberty is more precious then everithing in
this world!!!Thank's.
Hello!
If you can send me the picture a bill of the romanian
costum where I can see that you have bought the
camera from them you will get the money today or
tomorow (It takes about 30 minutes aufter giving it up
to
get it!)
Please understand that I=3DB4m sceptical because
the price
seems very low and you want a money transfer
which is
impossible to get it back!

Thanks
Hi.

I realy need the money quickly because in this week
end in bucharest will be an auction organised by the
custom and I want to take part.If you are realy
interested
please tell me ASAP.Here is my payment addres:
Coiculescu Ion
Str.Mantuleasa 5,
Bl.5 ,Ap.33,
Zip:77541
City:Bucharest
Country:Romania

I ll wait for payment confirmation of $1000 USD and
imediatly after that I ll send you the package trough
UPS
next day air and the camera will arrive at you in two
days.Wait ASAP your ship addres to prepare the
package ready for ship.Thank you.
Best Wishes,
Coiculescu Ion.

--- > wrote:
Hello!
One last question: Why on=3D3DB4t you sell it in a
normal
auction? You could get more money!
Thanks
Hi.

This camera is a brand new one,sealed in its
original
box and have a certificate for one year world
warranty.This camera is purchased from an
auction
organised by the custom here in Bucharest,it is
confiscated from the people who try to introduce
them
in the country without paying the taxes
and its a US version with all the manuales in
English
and the charger is for 110V,thats whay I m
selling,but
dont worry its perfectly legal and I have all the
papers.Final price is 1000$ and I ll pay for ship
and
as a
payment metod I agree money wire made by
MoneyGram or Western Union and imediatly after I
have
the payment confirmation I ll send you the
package
carrier
used for ship it will be UPS next day air sav
and the camera will arrive at you in three days
and if
days.Email
me ASAP because I want to sell it very quickly.
Thank you.

Best Wishes,
Hello!
How can you secure that I get my camera if you
would sell it to me?
How much is the shipping to austria?

Why is it so cheap?

I would buy it if my doubts are away!

Best regards jhhk
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IT
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Here's some of my exchange from a few weeks back with the same guy
maybe, based in Barcelona.

Oswaldo Pietro
adress:Camino de Vera nr.4
zip:46071
Barcelona
Spain

About the deal,look what I propose to you to be bouth safe.Send me just $2000
+USD first and after you'll receive the 3 cameras,you'll send to me the rest of
+the amount.I think this is a good way to close the deal.
Please email to me your name and adress for the ship.
As soon as I receive the payment confirmation from Western Union,I'll imediatly
+go to UPS and email to you the traking number.

Wait for your email and thank's for understanding!
Oswaldo,

Hi,Darren

Look,it's a little risky for me because I only talk to you at this deal.I can't
+meet someone who I don't know.I told you before,you don't have to send me
+$3000,only $2000 to be sure that you'll send to me the rest of the amount.
I am a serious man who don't want to have problems with Police and ....I have a
+family and 2 soons and I have a beautiful life here.

Email me ASAP and we can close the deal in good terms.
Thank's
Oswaldo

Hi,

I understand you very well and I can't wait for next week,because after I'll
+sell them I have to buy other cameras and sell them too.
Look what I propose to you to be bouth safe:You send the money to my address,
+but as "receiver" you
don't use my name , but the one of a friend (whife girl friend or who
do you like). This way I won't be able to pick up the money - you can
check this with Western: there is no way to pick up money if the money
are not on your name.I'll still need a prove that you send the money, so
you'll email me a scanned picture of the receipt from Western. After I
get the photo, I'll ship the package and email you the UPS thacking
number. Only when you receive it and everything is OK you'll call at
Western Union and change the receiver name with my name.
Email me ASAP if we have a deal,If not I have to sell them to someone else.

Thank's,

Hi,

I told you before,is better to close the deal togheter.
About your proposition,look send the money to your friend name and after you'll
+check the cameras you'll call at Western Union to change the receiver name with
+mine.
I think in this way you are very satisfied and sure that we have a good deal.
Wait ASAP and the cameras are ready to ship.
Thank's,
Oswaldo,

We played with the guy for days, eventually I told him I had sent the money and we were going to alter a Western Union receipt and send
it to him. A colleague here in the office realised as we were doing it that
we could get in trouble for fraud if we went that far. ;-)

So we left him alone.

Darren
 
Hi Phil

I also email him a week or two ago about the Canon 1D and got the same eamil back. I told him no thanks. I wish we could take him for a ride. I don't understand why ebay alouds this. A camer that sells for $4400.00 1D or one that sells for $8000.00 1Ds and not out yet and he will sell it for $1400.00 is a fraud (no brainer) and stupid people fall for it al the time.

Allen
Just for fun, to see how unrepentant a con artist is, I started
emailing the scammer. They said they'd sell me a 1Ds for $1,400.

Here is some of the exchange I've had so far:

--- "> Great news! That camera is supposed to retail for $8,000
when it is
released in the states, so to get if for $1,400 is quite a bargain.

I am getting paid on Friday and I'll email you then to arrange the
transaction.

You have made my day! My wife will be thrilled when she gets the camera on
her birthday. Money is tight around here, but we want the best camera
possible to photograph our new baby.

Thanks again, and look for that email on Friday or Saturday.

Wolfgang
From: (Deleted)
Reply-To: deletedt

Subject: Re: urgent! I need Canon 1Ds in three weeks
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 04:17:38 -0800 (PST)

The buy it now price is 1400$.
In order to end this deal in good terms i am going to tell you
some
things that i want to follow.

1. It is beter for you to know that the item is brand new ,its has
never been opened and it is has 1 year international warenty provided
by
the
factory,in fact the warranty is for North America (Canada and USA)but
available
in Europe too.

2. SHIPPMENT ---this is a thing about you shouldn't worry about
because i belive that it is my responasability to deliver it to your
home.We can do it in 2 way in each of them i am going to pay for all
charges:
-UPS 2 days
-FedEX 2 days ,
It will take 2 days for the package to arrive to you.The shipping
costs will be payed by me and i will also pay for the ensurance in
case of
any damage happens during the handling and shipping,so i will be
protected in case off damages and you too.

3.THE WAY TO PAY : I do bussines only by Money Gram or Western
Union
wire transfer I can't accept other methods of payment for the moment
because
I am in Europe in a bussines trip (from here I have this products at
this
incredibiles low prices) and I am forced to accept only wire
transfer.I would
like to use COD or escrow but because I am in a forign country I need
cash
money to reinvest it in other products. ,so look how we can do this,
the
fastest and 100%
secure method for both of us.

The payment is through Money Gram or Western Union money transfer.
If you feel uncomfortable doing a wire transfer, I
have a solution. You can do the Money Gram or Western Union transfer
to my
location, but not to my name. You'll use a fictive or
one of your choise instead. This way I won't be able
to pick up the money. You'll give me the used name and the MTCN so I
can
call my local office and check the status of
the transfer. If all is OK I
ship the product and email you the UPS tracking
number. Only after you receive the package and make
sure is allright you'll call Money Gram or Western Union and change
the transfer to my name.This is the fastest way to conclude this deal
and
the
same time is a method with no risks involved for both
of us.Also I will give you my details and to know on which details
you will
change after you receive the units.
 
Here's more of my exciting exchange with this loser:

I stop the auction beacuse I have for sell more products and I want to sell out of ebay,is more cheap
Replay me if you are interested to buy
Would you be interested in a buy it now? I haven't been able to find a
1Ds
anywhere yet, and I'm going on vacation next week!

P.S. Why is the picture of a 1D? Aren't you selling a 1Ds?
 
It seems pretty obvious, especially in the case of the 1ds, that the "seller" is trying to pass off something which doesn't exist as stolen goods.

Anyone responding here is trying to buy gear which wasn't legally obtained; that's the basis of the scam I think. Ya don't sell an $8k camera for $1.9k, and we all know it. Sure greed is involved, but you don't even get close if you're not prepared to buy stolen goods.

So whilst it's funny watching these things, it seems to me that [present company excluded] there are at least two theives involved: those who're doing the scam and also the punters who respond, trying to obtain a stolen 1Ds.

Generally one theif makes some money (the scammer) and the other loses it. It would be good if we could then mop up the scammers too, but the net result is that theivery doesn't work, which has to be good for those of us who don't want our stuff stolen ;-)
 

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