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Time for some humble pie
- Thread starter Angry-pixel
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DesertLefty
Forum Enthusiast
+1 on that.
It's way too early for either side to declare victory. Let's see how the OP's pictures turn out when the camera actually comes back. Maybe they fixed the problem, maybe they didn't. Maybe it wasn't the camera in the first place...
Angry-Pixel: Did you send in any of your lenses with the camera?
Angry-pixel
Leading Member
Dang, them shots is sharp Zorro. Look forward to playing catch up when I get my baby back.
Ha-ha!
Hey! I've been out testing the 60/2.8 D Micro and 35/1.8 DX between entry periods here today! I them it on my D7000, and got some interesting/funny cemetary shots. I racked up nearly 300 exposures -- how many did you generate, Mr. Smarty Psiants?
So, we don't all just sit around pulling each other's braids all day.
Gird your loins, and prepare for a broadside, Matey!
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I'm waiting for your apology. . .(Be careful what you ask for . . . I've got your Art. . . right here!)
Angry-pixel
Leading Member
Just as I thought.LOL. Balance is always my goal. I have seen some people who post in both ways described earlier. The ones that get the most help are the ones asking for it. Yes, I can see there are others here who are nikon fanboys and want to bash just for the sake of bashing. Thats destructive behavior and I do not condone it.Roman, I don't have you down firmly in the apologist camp. What you say is usually tempered by the view of both sides, i.e. you acknowledge that both sides are a reality rather than looking upon those who have a problem entirely as freaks who can't use a camera. You have said that not all complainants have a case and even I would agree with that, but what is transpiring lately regarding the accumulative feedback from people experiencing problems and what Nikon are doing about them, many of them aren't mere hysterical camerachondriacs imagining things. And tell me if I'm wrong, but I think I detect a shift in you seeing that just a bit clearer just lately. I think you're alright and wouldn't mind drawing camera's at dawn with you for a days shooting. You have much to offer in the way of experience and I've enjoyed and appreciated a lot of your posts. You could have better taste though after only putting my entry in your competition at number 9
I didn't have a problem with hot pixels and even bought my camera knowing of their existence and the firmware solution for them. The one that appeared after the upgrade should be gone now Nikon have had it for a while. I you remember I was reluctant to send the camera in for just that, but when the focussing issue came to light, I though I'd might as well have the pixel sorted at the same time. I'd be a fool not to. I agree, if all camera's mis-focused the way some do, i.e. it's how all camera's were built, I'd pack photography in tomorrow.
I bet we'd have a good laugh while we were at it too.Happy shooting. I would definitly go out with you if we were close to each other. Would have a good time shooting shoulder to shoulder.
Angry-pixel
Leading Member
I love to see people make up. It touches my heart (sniffle).....LOL.Roman -- All of your comments point to why I put you on the "plus" side of the people who genuinely want to be helpful and understanding.
I'm not trying to be overly protective of those with problems, but I hate to see them spend valuable time fiddling around trying to prove some point about why their equipment isn't working properly. Or worse, seeing them get beat up and told how stupid they are by some ardent blow-hards that love to bully and deny there is anything possibly wrong.
I'm glad that we are finding an equalibrium on the forum, with a great deal less anxiety and insult between parties. It's a good job well done by all who are trying to pull together and share understanding, or make it safe for people to ask "dumb" questions.
All in all, I thank you for your kind response and look forward to greater cooperation and appreciation of each other.
Angry-pixel
Leading Member
Yes, a standard response made to someone with an ISSUE. Note that they didn't say that there IS no issue. Pretty straightforward really.
Angry-pixel
Leading Member
Yes I sent my lens too and prior to that I sent some images they asked me for. They acknowledged a focussing issue before suggesting that I send them in. Now they're saying that the issue (which they had already acknowledged) is resolved (sorted). Pretty plain English to me. Of course I'll have to wait until the camera lands back on my porch to verify that. The "victory" as you call it isn't related to just one camera (mine), but to the fact that there is fast accumulating body of u=insurmountable evidence that there is an issue with many D7000's, above what would be normally expected. The fact that Nikon are repairing them, some needing new parts, is testament to that. All this thread was about, was shutting the big mouths who accuse all people who state a problem as being picky and engaged in human error. On that score, the victory is palpable. I mean, where are they?
bgD300
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I recall a lot of folks telling you to send it in and you seemed to keep stalling that to keep the moaning thread alive.
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Clayton1985
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Bingo. The number of mindless fanboys that were/are willing to ignore the facts and criticize, berate, belittle anyone that mentioned a problem with their D7000 seems to be shrinking as the evidence mounts that the issues are legitimate, yet they mostly won't have the guts to show up and admit they were wrong. Some of the most critical never even owned the camera!
This forum seems to have transitioned from users posting about their D7000 problems to users posting to let us know they DON'T have a problem. Who buys a new product and then has to exclaim that it works the way it's supposed to?
This forum seems to have transitioned from users posting about their D7000 problems to users posting to let us know they DON'T have a problem. Who buys a new product and then has to exclaim that it works the way it's supposed to?
Angry-pixel
Leading Member
That was a problem with a hot/stuck pixel. I had a lot red and blue hot pixels when I first got the camera. I upgraded the firmware and it got rid of them all but it left a really bright hot/stuck pixel where there wasn't one previously. I was reluctant to send back a camera I'd only just got my hands on after waiting two months due to the failure of Nikon to match supply with demand at the launch.
Nikon told me to send it in after seeing pictures of the problem before and after the upgrade, but I asked if I could wait for a bit and use the camera because it wasn't a major problem. They said to make sure to send it in before the warranty ran out.
Then the focusing problem came to light, which is obviously more of a problem than a stuck pixel. You do know the difference between a stuck pixel and a back-focusing problem don't you?
So the previous problem had nothing to do with back focusing. Tip ~ before you open your big flapping gob, you should make sure you know what you're talking about to avoid looking like an idiot. There's no need to thank me for that tip. It's free. I'm a nice guy like that.
Dave George
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Angry-pixel wrote:
I was reluctant to send back a camera I'd only just got my hands on after waiting two months due to the failure of Nikon to match supply with demand at the launch.
So Nikon surely cannot win with you then Angry? You slate them for not having enough cameras out at launch yet bang on about the problems you have had with yours as if it's somehow unacceptable for companies to suffer with failures, surely if they had flooded more cameras out at launch they would have less chance to rectify any potential issues and hence would have more sent in for repair.
They (Nikon) are not stupid and control their supply to keep the prices buoyant and demand high, the strategy I mentioned above is good for them as generally subsequent batches released may have time for issues to be ironed out.
I was reluctant to send back a camera I'd only just got my hands on after waiting two months due to the failure of Nikon to match supply with demand at the launch.
So Nikon surely cannot win with you then Angry? You slate them for not having enough cameras out at launch yet bang on about the problems you have had with yours as if it's somehow unacceptable for companies to suffer with failures, surely if they had flooded more cameras out at launch they would have less chance to rectify any potential issues and hence would have more sent in for repair.
They (Nikon) are not stupid and control their supply to keep the prices buoyant and demand high, the strategy I mentioned above is good for them as generally subsequent batches released may have time for issues to be ironed out.
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