It’s time to say goodbye

From everything I have read, it appears Sony is moving aggressively to EVF, so I am switching brands to Nikon in the hope that I can find a stronger commitment to OVF with that brand. I am fortunate that I don’t have a huge investment in alpha mount glass, so switching brands is feasible for me. I did consider Sony FF, but switching to FF would be substantially more expensive and I just didn’t want the added weight of a FF system.
Nikon is less likely to dump it's DSLR customers wholesale the way Sony is. Yes, even with just a few lenses to change it's the high priced brand. With my large system it's going to be very tough when I wear out my a700s. Good luck in your move.

Walt
boo hoo. by which time your kit will be worth even less and prices of new kit will be even higher. the smart move would be to switch systems now. in fact, an even smarter move would have been to stop investing in a system when oneself had already predicted its demise, but that's what an intelligent, knowledgeable, person would have done
Yes I should have switched to Nikon and paid all the extra price of that system instead of getting the Minolta 7D to replace my Minolta RD-175. That is when I started building my large A mount system. But that was history by the time it became clear sticking with Minolta/Sony was an error.

And there is no point when my photography stops.

Walt
 


The sun was about to cross the horizon just out of frame on the right hand side of the shot. Both shots below were at 16mm and f8.

Here is the full scene



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My CZ16-80 is over three years old and had pretty heavy use. Its possible it got a knock that moved something slightly out of alignment. It's possible I missed it, but I don't recall seeing CA on the CZ in this type of lighting situation before.

Oddly enough, I got the shot below around the same time and did not see the CA.



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Here is more typical travel shot (16mm and f5.6)



There is some CA in the tree at the top right



and on the signal gantry



Both of these cases are consistent with what I might have seen with the CZ on the A700.
I am interested in knowing if your experience with the a55 and Zeiss CZ16-80 is typical. I just ordered a 16-80 for my (1 week old) a55 and am concerned that I may have made a bad mistake. Until the new lens arrives, I won't know if mine also exhibits problems with CA, but would be extremely unhappy if this is indeed the case in low contrast especially. And I am also wondering if this CA is lateral or radial, since I have a much easier time dealing with lateral CA in post processing.

I would appreciate any comments, Richard, or anybody else who is aware of this problem.

Thanks,
Larry
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the best of luck I know you will love the d7000
I just sold off all my nikon gear to big to heavey and not easy to use for eye glass users
near impossable to use for clips in bright light or rain or snow
Nikon-- you will get brilliantly sharp photos with out a doubt
the one thing I am haveing problem with is soft images I have seen with the a55
soon my copy of the a55 will arrive, I will se for my self
CA is with out a doubt a lens problem--most likely poor coating
all the best stop back and let us know how your doing
be a photographer NOT a fan boy
 
It was Country Buttermilk. I usually have 9-grain Wheat toast. I reassuringly patted the loaf of Wheat bread as I left the kitchen. I knew that the Wheat bread would be sad and care about my decision to change.
 
Glad you enjoyed your toast and didn't let a tough decision spoil your breakfast :-)
It was Country Buttermilk. I usually have 9-grain Wheat toast. I reassuringly patted the loaf of Wheat bread as I left the kitchen. I knew that the Wheat bread would be sad and care about my decision to change.
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Have you actually done a comparison between the Sony and Nikonsy stems. I have been a diehard sony fan since the Alpha 100 came out. I now have three Alpha cameras My wife ended up with a Nikon D60 and eventually with a D90. Over the last week or so, I have been going to the local park to take photos of some birds that refused to migrate. I tried both the Alpha 500 and the D90. Man what a difference, I actually got rich blue skies with the D90 instead of the washed out ones I get with the Alpha 500. Even tried some shots out the window of bare trees. The nikon always had nice and rich sky, the sony washed out. While I have too much invested in old Minolta and new Sony lenses to switch, I can only hope that sony fixed their metering and the Alpha 55 will give my back blue skies.
 
Sorry but how do you know Nikon or Canon will follow Sony route with EVF???
Just like Sony just HAD to add video in their latest DSLRs simply to stay in the "trend" as everybody was putting it in every camera, the others will have to go EVF at some point if they want to stay in the move... Just look at how successful the SLTs are, they won't be able to just ignore it.
You can't judge EVF popularity by comparing Sony SLT cameras to Sony SLR cameras cause there is more than just OVF vs EVF difference between those two systems. It's like saying we don't need OVF or EVF at all cause most compact cameras doesn't have VF and they are more popular than any dSLR
 
I, for one, am waiting to hear what was on for lunch. Can't get enough of this useful info?
 
Very kind.

I had been thinking about using the Buttermilk bread for toast for some time, and it wasn't really difficult to put it in the toaster when all was said and done.

I forgot to mention that I put butter on the toast too. I haven't done that for about 3 weeks.

Change is good.
Glad you enjoyed your toast and didn't let a tough decision spoil your breakfast :-)
It was Country Buttermilk. I usually have 9-grain Wheat toast. I reassuringly patted the loaf of Wheat bread as I left the kitchen. I knew that the Wheat bread would be sad and care about my decision to change.
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You can't judge EVF popularity by comparing Sony SLT cameras to Sony SLR cameras cause there is more than just OVF vs EVF difference between those two systems.
Yes and no, because all the other differences actually come from the SLT design, which is the one that makes an EVF necessary.

So if the 10fps with AF, PDAF in video and other features that make SLTs popular are to become standard, this will be with EVFs, as that's not possible with an OVF.

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The sun was about to cross the horizon just out of frame on the right hand side of the shot. Both shots below were at 16mm and f8.

Here is the full scene



.

My CZ16-80 is over three years old and had pretty heavy use. Its possible it got a knock that moved something slightly out of alignment. It's possible I missed it, but I don't recall seeing CA on the CZ in this type of lighting situation before.

Oddly enough, I got the shot below around the same time and did not see the CA.



.

Here is more typical travel shot (16mm and f5.6)



There is some CA in the tree at the top right



and on the signal gantry



Both of these cases are consistent with what I might have seen with the CZ on the A700.
I am interested in knowing if your experience with the a55 and Zeiss CZ16-80 is typical. I just ordered a 16-80 for my (1 week old) a55 and am concerned that I may have made a bad mistake. Until the new lens arrives, I won't know if mine also exhibits problems with CA, but would be extremely unhappy if this is indeed the case in low contrast especially. And I am also wondering if this CA is lateral or radial, since I have a much easier time dealing with lateral CA in post processing.

I would appreciate any comments, Richard, or anybody else who is aware of this problem.

Thanks,
Larry
--
Richard B.
http://www.pbase.com/richard_b
Thanks Richard for your excellent reply. I must say that I am now having second thoughts about the 16-80 for my a55. I will be receiving it early next week, and certainly hope that my CA problems and especially the relatively unimpressive level of sharpness does not show up to the extent that your samples reveal. The 16-80 hardly looks like a $750 lens to me given what the same or less money buys from other sources. Yours has more color fringing than a circus tent.........

I have a return option with Beach Camera but hope not to have to take advantage of it. The reviews and most anecdotal reports tend to be very positive, but I will have to make up my own mind using this a55 to see what the situation truly is for the sample I receive.

Thankfully, the CA does appear to be lateral, and thus easy to correct. I had seen some reference to radial CA which is not correctable with the software I own, and is quite a distraction depending on the specific scene.

Thanks again,

Larry
 
Just curious. Most people who are dedicated to using OVFs seem to be much older.

I think people who like EVFs understand that not only will they continue to get better, but they are capable of so much more than just a clear image that is different that what the sensor will output.
 
Just curious. Most people who are dedicated to using OVFs seem to be much older.

I think people who like EVFs understand that not only will they continue to get better, but they are capable of so much more than just a clear image that is different that what the sensor will output.
Pretty good chance since I would think that the average age of regular posters on this forum is over 50. - TF
 
Hey watch it kiddo I a man over 50 by a large margin and I always embrace the latest technology , I will have you summoned for age-ist cracks/comments -- such prejudice cannot be tolerated any more. All us geriatrics will rise up and beat you with our zimmerfames if there is any more of this sort of comment :-)

Grey power forever - except for the bald in which case it is chrome domes forever?

or is that a hairist comment , oh darn I am in trouble now too

Ron (in jest , jest in case you are not aware )
Just curious. Most people who are dedicated to using OVFs seem to be much older.

I think people who like EVFs understand that not only will they continue to get better, but they are capable of so much more than just a clear image that is different that what the sensor will output.
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Nikon is less likely to dump it's DSLR customers wholesale the way Sony is.
What a foolish thing to say. Sony is the number one sensor manufacturer, no way are they going to make sensors for everyone and not have a camera of their own. They're not going anywhere anytime soon. But I imagine that statement was made do to the ovf thing (that you put way too much stock into).
 

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