717 recall whiners!

bauerman · Nov 6, 2002

No problem Mike....this is your thread and you made a GREAT point back on the first message......great point. From there it has been all down hill......excpet for my relationship that I now have with Lee. Right Lee.....Tiger! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Bauerman

Lee280zx said:
You two really should pick a time and place and meet one another.
Of course, you'll have to wait until both of your GM's are out of
the shop at the same time!

Todd Moore · Nov 6, 2002

Wow Mike, you really know how to start trouble

I think I will call GM so they can have a look at this thread for customer feedback!

But one final thing Mike, what do you think of the Malibu? hehe!

mike vanderstelt said:
Akkers said:

Just as well I have never bought a GM product.

Here in the UK, we have consumer laws which demand that products
must work out of the box (they must perform the tasks they are sold
for when bought). Anything that does not work when bought goes
straight back to the retailers. No ifs or buts or recalls. Its a
bit difficult to excercise on cars but smaller items, no problems.

Listen, if a camera visits a repair workshop, its second-hand. Its
that plain simple. Why should we pay new prices for second-hand
goods?

Click to expand...

--
Mike V.
MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!
I know it's almost winter--but, I had no intention of creating this
SNOWBALL EFFECT! Why I mentioned G.M. is only because "I" see this
sort of thing EVERY DAY! I am, in effect, just like the Sony tech.
that will fix your 717, HE didn't design, or build it----- he's
just trying to fix it for you!
So please, don't take it out on the technicians
(salesmen?------we'll THAT'S O.K.)LOL All i'm saying is-- No
company does EVERYTHING perfect, sure, they made a bad call in
letting them out, BUT, maybe it was even pressure from stockholders
to get it on the shelf and quit sinking money into it, and they had
NO choice, who knows! Most corporate mistakes in my opinion come
from greed to offset the competition and not lose a sale, even at
the cost of quality at times. All I wanted to initially say
is----you 1% of 717 owners SO upset over this, LIGHTEN UP! If
everything we bought in life was flawless we'd still be out in the
yard with our little wooden wind up airplanes, personally, mine
broke when it smashed into the garage, as did the other 10 of them.
I guess I haven't been right since
P.S. SORRY for all the fuss i've created

Mike Fitzgerald · Nov 6, 2002

Lee280zx said:
I didn't call you a moron--you inferred that.

Ahh, when one sees "inferred" used correctly, one recognises the TRUE hallmark (cAPS lOCK iNTENDED) of an accomplished wordsmith!

Love it! Brilliant spectator sport!

And, as a bonus, I'm at last learning to shrug off my irritation at Toyota having stuck the same "Camry" label (in Oz, at any rate) on two designs that clearly came from different planets

M

Lee280zx · Nov 6, 2002

That's right, Sweetcakes. I know one day I'll come visit you and we'll both go to your auto repair shop and visit your GM.

bauerman · Nov 6, 2002

Again with the names....Jeez....you have a good week there champ.......

Bauerman

Lee280zx said:
That's right, Sweetcakes. I know one day I'll come visit you and
we'll both go to your auto repair shop and visit your GM.

pdqgp · Nov 6, 2002

What? Sure they did. I grew up in a GM Family that had several dealerships from Olds, to Caddy and Chevy.

http://www.alldata.com/TSB/821042_en.html

is just a quick hit on the TSB's that hit them in 1982

bauerman said:
bauerman wrote:
they did not produce Malibu's in the 1980's as your post suggests.

pdqgp · Nov 6, 2002

Somehow I don't see the relationship between your last two posts? One your saying it didn't exist, now you're saying it did, but it's not the same? The DeVille of today is nothing like the DeVille of 1982 either.

Remember the Grand Am? It was alive in the 80's too.

bauerman said:
The Malibu wagon that you mention in your post is NOT anywhere near
what the Malibu is of today, they are different cars - completely
different.......

Lee280zx · Nov 6, 2002

Well, you were calling me "tiger," so I thought Sweetcakes would be a good name for you. Or would you prefer "Bowzer"?

mjoshi · Nov 6, 2002

Mike,

You are right on the mark. But that is difference between things made in US and things made in Japan. You dont see so many recalls with Japanes cars compared to US cars.

MJ

mike vanderstelt said:
--
Mike V.
I've been a technician at a G.M. dealer for 23yrs. Some of the
vehicles now are way over 50k, and they have "recalls" all the
time. I listen to some of you bitching about "your being
inconvenienced" by Sony, for a problem "they knew" was there! ( I
paid bla,bla, money etc.) Ya know, short of 1, and I mean 1, recall
G.M. has had in 23yrs. They have NEVER (the same goes for almost
all other auto manufactureres) EVER, picked up your car/truck,
fixed it, and returned it to your home! Does ANYONE know ANY
buisiness that has done that on a mass scale? My God, the unsold
717's still on the shelf didn't even have time to get dusty, and
Sony is already repairing them! I say GREAT JOB SONY!!!!!!! for
rectifying a problem in a VERY timely fashion and going WAY OVER
the extra mile to accomidate your customers! I havn't lost one
ounce of faith in Sony!
As far as you FEW whiners out there that have been SO PUT OUT over
this, GROW UP!!!!!!! Maybe just for you few, Sony should shut their
doors in dishonor and shame, give you ALL there stocks, and buy you
a NIKON!!
After all-------- YOU HAD A BAD DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

everybody else-------------I LOVE YOU ALL!

DeeDee G. · Nov 6, 2002

I pay more and I get the service I want. I also feel MUCH safer in them.

The recalls are mininal and they last A LOT longer without falling apart.

Yes, my husband has a GM SUV, but I wouldn't buy one myself.

As for the Sony F717, this is a top of the line camera and with the $$$ they are putting out, (and this not being the first of these models), I would expect something like this to be a pre-sale fix - not a post sale fix.

I would be UPSET too, especially after hearing the stories about fingerprints under the lenses, etc. in the past.

I can't think of a better place to express my anger because others here would relate.

Just my opinion.

D. (keeping my F707 for now).

mike vanderstelt said:
--
Mike V.
I've been a technician at a G.M. dealer for 23yrs. Some of the
vehicles now are way over 50k, and they have "recalls" all the
time. I listen to some of you bitching about "your being
inconvenienced" by Sony, for a problem "they knew" was there! ( I
paid bla,bla, money etc.) Ya know, short of 1, and I mean 1, recall
G.M. has had in 23yrs. They have NEVER (the same goes for almost
all other auto manufactureres) EVER, picked up your car/truck,
fixed it, and returned it to your home! Does ANYONE know ANY
buisiness that has done that on a mass scale? My God, the unsold
717's still on the shelf didn't even have time to get dusty, and
Sony is already repairing them! I say GREAT JOB SONY!!!!!!! for
rectifying a problem in a VERY timely fashion and going WAY OVER
the extra mile to accomidate your customers! I havn't lost one
ounce of faith in Sony!
As far as you FEW whiners out there that have been SO PUT OUT over
this, GROW UP!!!!!!! Maybe just for you few, Sony should shut their
doors in dishonor and shame, give you ALL there stocks, and buy you
a NIKON!!
After all-------- YOU HAD A BAD DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

everybody else-------------I LOVE YOU ALL!

--
DeeDee G.
http://www.pbase.com/deedee_g/root

Shimbabwe · Nov 6, 2002

mjoshi said:
Mike,

You are right on the mark. But that is difference between things
made in US and things made in Japan. You dont see so many recalls
with Japanes cars compared to US cars.

Many Japaneese autos are made in the U.S. I live within 30 miles of two Nissan plants. One of them is only ten miles away. Furthermore, U.S. Manufacturers have plants outside its borders. So, things aren't always what they seem. For the record, I own a Ford Taurus with 196,000 miles on the odometer, and a Mazda 323 with 94,000 and my company leased Dodge Intrepid with 64,000 miles on it. My wife drives the Taurus every day, the Mazda just sits. The bottom line is, that generalizations about companies are rarely accurate. All companies make products that can fit into the "good" the "bad" and the "ugly"category. I have owned reliable and unreliable autos from both U.S. and "foreign" manufacturers. We all have subjective opinions, but I'm not about to argue that a chicken is better than a duck.

mjoshi said:
MJ

mike vanderstelt said:

--
Mike V.
I've been a technician at a G.M. dealer for 23yrs. Some of the
vehicles now are way over 50k, and they have "recalls" all the
time. I listen to some of you bitching about "your being
inconvenienced" by Sony, for a problem "they knew" was there! ( I
paid bla,bla, money etc.) Ya know, short of 1, and I mean 1, recall
G.M. has had in 23yrs. They have NEVER (the same goes for almost
all other auto manufactureres) EVER, picked up your car/truck,
fixed it, and returned it to your home! Does ANYONE know ANY
buisiness that has done that on a mass scale? My God, the unsold
717's still on the shelf didn't even have time to get dusty, and
Sony is already repairing them! I say GREAT JOB SONY!!!!!!! for
rectifying a problem in a VERY timely fashion and going WAY OVER
the extra mile to accomidate your customers! I havn't lost one
ounce of faith in Sony!
As far as you FEW whiners out there that have been SO PUT OUT over
this, GROW UP!!!!!!! Maybe just for you few, Sony should shut their
doors in dishonor and shame, give you ALL there stocks, and buy you
a NIKON!!
After all-------- YOU HAD A BAD DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

everybody else-------------I LOVE YOU ALL!

Click to expand...

netguru717 · Nov 6, 2002

Also the very first 707 had various problems. Some guy here has not got his lens cab back. This is like a bad joke film.

mike vanderstelt said:
--
Mike V.
I've been a technician at a G.M. dealer for 23yrs. Some of the
vehicles now are way over 50k, and they have "recalls" all the
time. I listen to some of you bitching about "your being
inconvenienced" by Sony, for a problem "they knew" was there! ( I
paid bla,bla, money etc.) Ya know, short of 1, and I mean 1, recall
G.M. has had in 23yrs. They have NEVER (the same goes for almost
all other auto manufactureres) EVER, picked up your car/truck,
fixed it, and returned it to your home! Does ANYONE know ANY
buisiness that has done that on a mass scale? My God, the unsold
717's still on the shelf didn't even have time to get dusty, and
Sony is already repairing them! I say GREAT JOB SONY!!!!!!! for
rectifying a problem in a VERY timely fashion and going WAY OVER
the extra mile to accomidate your customers! I havn't lost one
ounce of faith in Sony!
As far as you FEW whiners out there that have been SO PUT OUT over
this, GROW UP!!!!!!! Maybe just for you few, Sony should shut their
doors in dishonor and shame, give you ALL there stocks, and buy you
a NIKON!!
After all-------- YOU HAD A BAD DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

everybody else-------------I LOVE YOU ALL!

Homer40784 · Nov 7, 2002

:ile the X5 that has had 4 recalls? Or is it 5 now?

All complex machinery has problems. Spending more money doesn't make you immune. The X5 drives lovely......back and forth from the house to the dealer. My Chrysler Van never had a recall after 6 years. WHO has the quality? The record speaks for itself. This is not personal Htperbole. These are just the facts maam. X5=4 recalls, Chrysler=0 recalls

But that 717 is a fine piece of work and everybody should get one chance to get it right be it cars or cameras.

Homer

DeeDee G. said:
The recalls are mininal and they last A LOT longer without falling
apart.

Yes, my husband has a GM SUV, but I wouldn't buy one myself.

As for the Sony F717, this is a top of the line camera and with the
$$$ they are putting out, (and this not being the first of these
models), I would expect something like this to be a pre-sale fix -
not a post sale fix.

I would be UPSET too, especially after hearing the stories about
fingerprints under the lenses, etc. in the past.

I can't think of a better place to express my anger because others
here would relate.

Just my opinion.

D. (keeping my F707 for now).

mike vanderstelt said:

--
Mike V.
I've been a technician at a G.M. dealer for 23yrs. Some of the
vehicles now are way over 50k, and they have "recalls" all the
time. I listen to some of you bitching about "your being
inconvenienced" by Sony, for a problem "they knew" was there! ( I
paid bla,bla, money etc.) Ya know, short of 1, and I mean 1, recall
G.M. has had in 23yrs. They have NEVER (the same goes for almost
all other auto manufactureres) EVER, picked up your car/truck,
fixed it, and returned it to your home! Does ANYONE know ANY
buisiness that has done that on a mass scale? My God, the unsold
717's still on the shelf didn't even have time to get dusty, and
Sony is already repairing them! I say GREAT JOB SONY!!!!!!! for
rectifying a problem in a VERY timely fashion and going WAY OVER
the extra mile to accomidate your customers! I havn't lost one
ounce of faith in Sony!
As far as you FEW whiners out there that have been SO PUT OUT over
this, GROW UP!!!!!!! Maybe just for you few, Sony should shut their
doors in dishonor and shame, give you ALL there stocks, and buy you
a NIKON!!
After all-------- YOU HAD A BAD DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

everybody else-------------I LOVE YOU ALL!

Click to expand...

--
DeeDee G.
http://www.pbase.com/deedee_g/root

Lee280zx · Nov 7, 2002

You bring up an interesting point. Even though so many Japanese cars are made in the U.S., they retain their quality and are still better than Fords, GMs and Chryslers. And Nissan has its design center for the Americas right here in San Diego. So I guess it has a lot to do with what standards manufacturers demand.

As to your cars, I can't imagine what a Taurus looks and sounds like after 194,000 miles. I would think it is a rattletrap that has required many expensive repairs (A/C compressors, radiators, alternators, etc.). But I'm sure I could be wrong.

I have to go by my experience with American cars, and the experiences of those I know. And I know so many people who have had so many problems with their American cars.

All of this relates to the F-717 discussion as follows: When my the A/C compressor failed in my Civic SI at 45K miles, Honda agreed to pay for the repair even though it was out of warranty. They knew their was an issue with the compressors. When the injectors failed in my 300zx, it cost $1K to have them replaced. Nissan then recalled the cars to fix the problem. Not only did they put new injectors in, they repaid the $1K.

Sony is acting like Nissan and Honda (not like the problems with GM I mentioned in an earlier post). This is good, and gives me faith in the brand.

DeeDee G. · Nov 7, 2002

You are a lucky guy then Homer. I have a client who was in charge of deciding which cars to take back at a dealership. Ever have smelly air from the A/C? Be careful of the mold problem they have/had. Maybe they fixed it.

I have had BMW's now since 1985. The first one I kept 10 years with 170,000 miles on it. Never had a problem. I cranked it out to 140mph in my younger days too. (I would not do that now - I know better). Now I trade keep them a max of 5 years and have been very happy with them, but to each his own. I guess all makes have lemons. I have just been lucky.

D.

Homer said:
All complex machinery has problems. Spending more money doesn't
make you immune. The X5 drives lovely......back and forth from the
house to the dealer. My Chrysler Van never had a recall after 6
years. WHO has the quality? The record speaks for itself. This is
not personal Htperbole. These are just the facts maam. X5=4
recalls, Chrysler=0 recalls

But that 717 is a fine piece of work and everybody should get one
chance to get it right be it cars or cameras.

Homer

DeeDee G. said:

The recalls are mininal and they last A LOT longer without falling
apart.

Yes, my husband has a GM SUV, but I wouldn't buy one myself.

As for the Sony F717, this is a top of the line camera and with the
$$$ they are putting out, (and this not being the first of these
models), I would expect something like this to be a pre-sale fix -
not a post sale fix.

I would be UPSET too, especially after hearing the stories about
fingerprints under the lenses, etc. in the past.

I can't think of a better place to express my anger because others
here would relate.

Just my opinion.

D. (keeping my F707 for now).

mike vanderstelt said:

--
Mike V.
I've been a technician at a G.M. dealer for 23yrs. Some of the
vehicles now are way over 50k, and they have "recalls" all the
time. I listen to some of you bitching about "your being
inconvenienced" by Sony, for a problem "they knew" was there! ( I
paid bla,bla, money etc.) Ya know, short of 1, and I mean 1, recall
G.M. has had in 23yrs. They have NEVER (the same goes for almost
all other auto manufactureres) EVER, picked up your car/truck,
fixed it, and returned it to your home! Does ANYONE know ANY
buisiness that has done that on a mass scale? My God, the unsold
717's still on the shelf didn't even have time to get dusty, and
Sony is already repairing them! I say GREAT JOB SONY!!!!!!! for
rectifying a problem in a VERY timely fashion and going WAY OVER
the extra mile to accomidate your customers! I havn't lost one
ounce of faith in Sony!
As far as you FEW whiners out there that have been SO PUT OUT over
this, GROW UP!!!!!!! Maybe just for you few, Sony should shut their
doors in dishonor and shame, give you ALL there stocks, and buy you
a NIKON!!
After all-------- YOU HAD A BAD DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

everybody else-------------I LOVE YOU ALL!

Click to expand...

--
DeeDee G.
http://www.pbase.com/deedee_g/root

Click to expand...

--
DeeDee G.
http://www.pbase.com/deedee_g/root

mjoshi · Nov 7, 2002

You are correct but quality comes out from process and commitment. That's the place where US Autos no matter where-ever made, they donot perform as good as there competitors. That's why you find 0% APR on GM but you dont find same on Honda or Toyota. But to your surprise, Ford Escort sold in India is having a better quality compared to what Ford is selling in US. The basic thing is how much customer demands. I feel many times big brands in US takes customer for a ride to often. US customer needs to be more demanding then only quality will improve. And it is in mutual benefit of company as well as customer.

MJ

Shimbabwe said:
mjoshi said:

Mike,

You are right on the mark. But that is difference between things
made in US and things made in Japan. You dont see so many recalls
with Japanes cars compared to US cars.

Click to expand...

Many Japaneese autos are made in the U.S. I live within 30 miles of
two Nissan plants. One of them is only ten miles away. Furthermore,
U.S. Manufacturers have plants outside its borders. So, things
aren't always what they seem. For the record, I own a Ford Taurus
with 196,000 miles on the odometer, and a Mazda 323 with 94,000 and
my company leased Dodge Intrepid with 64,000 miles on it. My wife
drives the Taurus every day, the Mazda just sits. The bottom line
is, that generalizations about companies are rarely accurate. All
companies make products that can fit into the "good" the "bad" and
the "ugly"category. I have owned reliable and unreliable autos from
both U.S. and "foreign" manufacturers. We all have subjective
opinions, but I'm not about to argue that a chicken is better than
a duck.

Shimbabwe said:

MJ

mike vanderstelt said:

--
Mike V.
I've been a technician at a G.M. dealer for 23yrs. Some of the
vehicles now are way over 50k, and they have "recalls" all the
time. I listen to some of you bitching about "your being
inconvenienced" by Sony, for a problem "they knew" was there! ( I
paid bla,bla, money etc.) Ya know, short of 1, and I mean 1, recall
G.M. has had in 23yrs. They have NEVER (the same goes for almost
all other auto manufactureres) EVER, picked up your car/truck,
fixed it, and returned it to your home! Does ANYONE know ANY
buisiness that has done that on a mass scale? My God, the unsold
717's still on the shelf didn't even have time to get dusty, and
Sony is already repairing them! I say GREAT JOB SONY!!!!!!! for
rectifying a problem in a VERY timely fashion and going WAY OVER
the extra mile to accomidate your customers! I havn't lost one
ounce of faith in Sony!
As far as you FEW whiners out there that have been SO PUT OUT over
this, GROW UP!!!!!!! Maybe just for you few, Sony should shut their
doors in dishonor and shame, give you ALL there stocks, and buy you
a NIKON!!
After all-------- YOU HAD A BAD DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

everybody else-------------I LOVE YOU ALL!

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

--

mike vanderstelt · Nov 7, 2002

mike vanderstelt said:
--
Mike V.
I've been a technician at a G.M. dealer for 23yrs. Some of the
vehicles now are way over 50k, and they have "recalls" all the
time. I listen to some of you bitching about "your being
inconvenienced" by Sony, for a problem "they knew" was there! ( I
paid bla,bla, money etc.) Ya know, short of 1, and I mean 1, recall
G.M. has had in 23yrs. They have NEVER (the same goes for almost
all other auto manufactureres) EVER, picked up your car/truck,
fixed it, and returned it to your home! Does ANYONE know ANY
buisiness that has done that on a mass scale? My God, the unsold
717's still on the shelf didn't even have time to get dusty, and
Sony is already repairing them! I say GREAT JOB SONY!!!!!!! for
rectifying a problem in a VERY timely fashion and going WAY OVER
the extra mile to accomidate your customers! I havn't lost one
ounce of faith in Sony!
As far as you FEW whiners out there that have been SO PUT OUT over
this, GROW UP!!!!!!! Maybe just for you few, Sony should shut their
doors in dishonor and shame, give you ALL there stocks, and buy you
a NIKON!!
After all-------- YOU HAD A BAD DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

everybody else-------------I LOVE YOU ALL!

--
Mike V.

steve d. · Nov 7, 2002

I never understood why initial quality is talked about as some stamp of approval. When I pay $20-30k for a car I want not only initial quality, but long lasting quality...

bauerman said:
It seems that I will have take your post and your opinion below
with a grain of salt since they did not produce Malibu's in the
1980's as your post suggests. You may have been mad when you wrote
this and may have made a mistake....I understand.

Here are the winners of the inital quality rating from JD Power in
some majot categories for 2002:

Car models ranking highest in their segment are:

Segments Car Models
Compact Car Toyota Corolla and Toyota Prius (tie)
Entry Midsize Car Chevrolet Malibu
Premium Midsize Car Buick Century
Full-Size Car Buick LeSabre
Entry Luxury Car Ford Thunderbird
Mid Luxury Car Lexus GS 300/GS 430
Premium Luxury Car Lexus LS 430
Sporty Car Mazda Miata
Premium Sports Car Chevrolet Corvette

I see 4 of the 9 being GM cars....not too bad....right?

And if you were going to buy an American car.....for the love of
all that is holy...why did you go with Dodge!!!!

Bauerman

Lee280zx said:

Agreed! It seems Mike's argument is that we'd all be thrilled with
Sony's problems if we just owned a piece of GM's
shoddily-engineered junk. Surely the day will never come when we
look to GM for quality standards!

I remember that when the Lumina was introduced it had a record
average of 30-something defects per car.

My brother bought a new Camaro in '89, with an extended GM
bumper-to-bumper warranty. Three times within the first year (and
10,000 miles) the engine caught fire as he was driving through the
desert. Each time GM actually tried to not warranty the problem.
Turned out to be a clutch line to near the engine that would heat
up, rupture and start a fire. GM eventually recalled it for a
heat-shield fix.

My grandfather bought one of the first aluminum block Cadillacs
in the 1980's. The block cracked at 60,000 miles and GM would not
do a thing about it.

My aunt owned a new 199X Grand Am that would occasionally simply
not start (not crank...nothing). Took it to the dealership several
times in the two years she owned it. Never was fixed. Sold it at
a huge loss because she was honest about the problem with the next
purchaser.

And how about those 1980's Malibus that exploded in fire in
moderate rear-end collisions. I knew a couple of little girls that
lost their lives to that monument to GM ingenuity.

I know this is off the forum's topic, but get serious. I felt it
my duty when I finished graduate school to buy American, so I
bought a Dodge Intrepid. That car still runs, but almost every
non-essential system in the car is down. Never again. And never,
never GM!

Click to expand...

--
-steve

Lee280zx · Nov 7, 2002

Good point.

johnrweb · Nov 7, 2002

Mike,

I can't afford to upgrade from my F707 to the F717, but I can understand the frustration that some of the F717 owner must have gone through.

Can you imagine the outcry if people go out and buy a GM car and find out that under certain circumstances, it can't steer? Steering is a very basic function of a car and lets say that it can't steer under certain common road conditions, it would be understandable for the owner to be upset.

Focusing is a very basic element of any camera and its not unreasonable to expect that all camera should have troublefree focusing.

mike vanderstelt said:
--
Mike V.
I've been a technician at a G.M. dealer for 23yrs. Some of the
vehicles now are way over 50k, and they have "recalls" all the
time. I listen to some of you bitching about "your being
inconvenienced" by Sony, for a problem "they knew" was there! ( I
paid bla,bla, money etc.) Ya know, short of 1, and I mean 1, recall
G.M. has had in 23yrs. They have NEVER (the same goes for almost
all other auto manufactureres) EVER, picked up your car/truck,
fixed it, and returned it to your home! Does ANYONE know ANY
buisiness that has done that on a mass scale? My God, the unsold
717's still on the shelf didn't even have time to get dusty, and
Sony is already repairing them! I say GREAT JOB SONY!!!!!!! for
rectifying a problem in a VERY timely fashion and going WAY OVER
the extra mile to accomidate your customers! I havn't lost one
ounce of faith in Sony!
As far as you FEW whiners out there that have been SO PUT OUT over
this, GROW UP!!!!!!! Maybe just for you few, Sony should shut their
doors in dishonor and shame, give you ALL there stocks, and buy you
a NIKON!!
After all-------- YOU HAD A BAD DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

everybody else-------------I LOVE YOU ALL!

--
John
http://www.pbase.com/johnrweb/

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