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I have had my a33 for 1 day and have been going thru the manual and familiarizing myself with the camera functions. This evening I noticed when taking photos that there was a double click shutter sound that was not present earlier. I noticed a similar issue when demoing a camera in the store and they said this was the usual sound the shutter makes. The camera is set to single shot only and I tried going back to factory settings. Initially,I am positive the shutter sound was a single click. Is there some camera function I unknowingly activated, and can inactivate? Has anyone else noted this?
 
I have had my a33 for 1 day and have been going thru the manual and familiarizing myself with the camera functions. This evening I noticed when taking photos that there was a double click shutter sound that was not present earlier. I noticed a similar issue when demoing a camera in the store and they said this was the usual sound the shutter makes. The camera is set to single shot only and I tried going back to factory settings. Initially,I am positive the shutter sound was a single click. Is there some camera function I unknowingly activated, and can inactivate? Has anyone else noted this?
That's the way my A55 has always been... It just is. I think you just didn't notice it before.

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The issue is also when it comes down to shutter speed. If you're using a fast shutter speed, it will sound like a single click. However if you're using a slower shutter speed, it will sound like two clicks.

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A Beginning Amateur Photographer
 
I have had my a33 for 1 day and have been going thru the manual and familiarizing myself with the camera functions. This evening I noticed when taking photos that there was a double click shutter sound that was not present earlier. I noticed a similar issue when demoing a camera in the store and they said this was the usual sound the shutter makes. The camera is set to single shot only and I tried going back to factory settings. Initially,I am positive the shutter sound was a single click. Is there some camera function I unknowingly activated, and can inactivate? Has anyone else noted this?
I believe the double-click sound is normal. Actually, it makes total sense that there would be multiple shutter clicks per shot with the A33/55 cameras, since they operate in main sensor live view mode at all times (which means the shutter has to go through two full cycles per shot). That is, the shutter starts out open, providing the live view feed. So, when the shutter button is pressed, the shutter has to close and re-****; then it opens and closes again, to take the picture; and then finally, it opens again, to re-establish the live view. Two full cycles.

Here are a couple of videos in which you can clearly hear the shutter sound. So, based on your description, it would appear that your A33 is acting normally ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwWp54mv9pI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ndnuRsm5FQ

Cheers,
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Greg
 
I believe the double-click sound is normal. Actually, it makes total sense that there would be multiple shutter clicks per shot with the A33/55 cameras, since they operate in main sensor live view mode at all times (which means the shutter has to go through two full cycles per shot). That is, the shutter starts out open, providing the live view feed. So, when the shutter button is pressed, the shutter has to close and re-****; then it opens and closes again, to take the picture; and then finally, it opens again, to re-establish the live view. Two full cycles.

Here are a couple of videos in which you can clearly hear the shutter sound. So, based on your description, it would appear that your A33 is acting normally ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwWp54mv9pI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ndnuRsm5FQ

Cheers,
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Greg
Great explanation and videos! I've wondered about that myself.

This also explains why it is impossible to maintain live view during 10fps mode. Because the shutter has to physically close so it can take the picture. Duh!!!

Thanks!
 
Thanks for you explanation of the clicks--it makes perfect sense, altho I swear I initially heard only one sound, but probably didnt pay that much attention to it when first using the camera
 
I think I read in DK's review of the A55 where he also said that each shot on the A55 uses 2 shutter actuation's. Does this mean that if the shutter is rated at 100,000 MTBFs it will be reached when 50,000 shots have been taken?
I have had my a33 for 1 day and have been going thru the manual and familiarizing myself with the camera functions. This evening I noticed when taking photos that there was a double click shutter sound that was not present earlier. I noticed a similar issue when demoing a camera in the store and they said this was the usual sound the shutter makes. The camera is set to single shot only and I tried going back to factory settings. Initially,I am positive the shutter sound was a single click. Is there some camera function I unknowingly activated, and can inactivate? Has anyone else noted this?
I believe the double-click sound is normal. Actually, it makes total sense that there would be multiple shutter clicks per shot with the A33/55 cameras, since they operate in main sensor live view mode at all times (which means the shutter has to go through two full cycles per shot). That is, the shutter starts out open, providing the live view feed. So, when the shutter button is pressed, the shutter has to close and re-****; then it opens and closes again, to take the picture; and then finally, it opens again, to re-establish the live view. Two full cycles.

Here are a couple of videos in which you can clearly hear the shutter sound. So, based on your description, it would appear that your A33 is acting normally ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwWp54mv9pI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ndnuRsm5FQ

Cheers,
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Greg
 
I have had my a33 for 1 day and have been going thru the manual and familiarizing myself with the camera functions. This evening I noticed when taking photos that there was a double click shutter sound that was not present earlier. I noticed a similar issue when demoing a camera in the store and they said this was the usual sound the shutter makes. The camera is set to single shot only and I tried going back to factory settings. Initially,I am positive the shutter sound was a single click. Is there some camera function I unknowingly activated, and can inactivate? Has anyone else noted this?
Study focal plane shutter design. A focal plane shutter has a leading shutter which opens the frame to light at the beginning of the exposure by retracting across the frame, and at the end of the exposure a following shutter closes off the light by extending across the frame. That's two sounds separated by the length of the exposure. Try varying the length of the exposure and notice how the sound changes.

Farther at the end of the exposure the two leaves are drawn back across the frame overlapped to be ready for the next exposure.

In other words it's normal.

Walt
 
I think I read in DK's review of the A55 where he also said that each shot on the A55 uses 2 shutter actuation's. Does this mean that if the shutter is rated at 100,000 MTBFs it will be reached when 50,000 shots have been taken?
Seems an appropriate interpretation for single shot shooting mode. Of course continuous stacks up a whole bunch of shots to wear the shutter.

Walt
 
I think I read in DK's review of the A55 where he also said that each shot on the A55 uses 2 shutter actuation's. Does this mean that if the shutter is rated at 100,000 MTBFs it will be reached when 50,000 shots have been taken?
Hmm, I don't remember seeing that in DK's review. But yes, I think that's the case, at least when operating in single-shot mode -- or in continuous mode, as long as it's not the 6fps or 10fps (or 7fps, on the A33) setting.

Operating the same way I described before, in 10fps mode, would require that the shutter be able to cycle twenty times per second, and I doubt seriously that it could really do that. Far more likely, I think, is that when in 6, 7 or 10fps mode, the camera implements a different operating logic for the shutter in which, after the first shot (where it still has to close and re-**** before taking the first shot), it operates just like the shutter in a traditional DSLR -- that is, one cycle per shot.

In this mode, of course, there would be no opportunity for the shutter to open back up in between shots, in order to obtain a live view feed to the EVF between shots. Thus, the necessity for the EVF "slide show" of still images just taken when operating in these modes.

Cheers,
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Greg
 
I'm not sure about 3 fps, but for the 6, 7, and 10 fps modes, you will hear the double-click for the first shot, and after that a single click per shot. That's my input.

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A Beginning Amateur Photographer
 
You're right, it wasn't mentioned in the review. It was a post by DK in a forum thread on his site where he wrote:

"Two points: every actuation of a NEX or A55/33 shutter equals two actuations (sic) of a normal shutter, because the shutter closes, fires, then opens again".

After I read this I was meaning to post a thread on here about this because I'm not sure if I should be concerned or not about the lifetime of the shutter on the A55.
I think I read in DK's review of the A55 where he also said that each shot on the A55 uses 2 shutter actuation's. Does this mean that if the shutter is rated at 100,000 MTBFs it will be reached when 50,000 shots have been taken?
Hmm, I don't remember seeing that in DK's review. But yes, I think that's the case, at least when operating in single-shot mode -- or in continuous mode, as long as it's not the 6fps or 10fps (or 7fps, on the A33) setting.

Operating the same way I described before, in 10fps mode, would require that the shutter be able to cycle twenty times per second, and I doubt seriously that it could really do that. Far more likely, I think, is that when in 6, 7 or 10fps mode, the camera implements a different operating logic for the shutter in which, after the first shot (where it still has to close and re-**** before taking the first shot), it operates just like the shutter in a traditional DSLR -- that is, one cycle per shot.

In this mode, of course, there would be no opportunity for the shutter to open back up in between shots, in order to obtain a live view feed to the EVF between shots. Thus, the necessity for the EVF "slide show" of still images just taken when operating in these modes.

Cheers,
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Greg
 
You're right, it wasn't mentioned in the review. It was a post by DK in a forum thread on his site where he wrote:

"Two points: every actuation of a NEX or A55/33 shutter equals two actuations (sic) of a normal shutter, because the shutter closes, fires, then opens again".

After I read this I was meaning to post a thread on here about this because I'm not sure if I should be concerned or not about the lifetime of the shutter on the A55.
IMO, there's probably not too much to be concerned about. If you blast away at 10fps all the time, then yeah, you might wear it out before too long. But no sooner than any other camera taking the same total number of shots, since I think we've established that the SLTs revert to a "one shutter cycle per shot" mode when shooting at high framerates.

And in single-shot mode, where you are getting two shutter cycles per shot? Well, it's probably going to take a long time to wear out a shutter in that type of shooting, anyway, as it takes a pretty long time to rack up even 50,000 shots, one button press at a time.

Cheers,
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Greg
 
I know I'm about 9 years late but its actually electronic front-curtain shutter has to be turned on!, its been driving me crazy for the past few weeks! good luck!
 
I know I'm about 9 years late but its actually electronic front-curtain shutter has to be turned on!, its been driving me crazy for the past few weeks!
The OP from 9 years ago did not have the option in his a33. The two first SLTs (a33 and a55) were not equipped with that shooting mode.
good luck!
Better luck with your next post!
Cheers,
Ralf
 
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I know I'm about 9 years late but its actually electronic front-curtain shutter has to be turned on!, its been driving me crazy for the past few weeks! good luck!
The A33 and A55 didn't have that feature. The A55 I owned always had the double click sound which probably wore out the shutter faster.

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Tom
 
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He was a regular on the A Mount Forum until he died a few years ago.
 

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