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teamrican1 said:
The overwhelming majority of European photographers that matter speak English. English is the language of international business and the internet in particular. Few Germans speak Portuguese. Few Poles speak Spanish. Few French speak Swedish. But most educated people across Europe have at least a basic understanding of English. And even if they did want to balkanize the site in to various language sub-components, what does that have to do with the physical location of their offices? Seattle has plenty of people that speak German, French, Spanish, Italian, ect. And if they wanted someone from outside Seattle, they offer that person a job and the person moves, same as people did when their offices were in London.
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The basic english of the overwhelming majority of germans, spanish, french, italians, etc. doesn't suffice to be able to fully understand technical reviews of cameras and news on this site, which is why inspite of the fact that europe is the largest camera market in the world, DPReviews main audience is in the USA and not the much more populous continental europe!

I have many friends here in Germany who are very well educated and yet their english lacks enough to prevent them from surfing this site...

The assumption that english is somehow the language of the internet, is a rubbish, there are millions of people surfing the web without basic knowledge of english!
 
Firestorm2000 said:
Simon Joinson said:
Skipper494 said:
....I've seen many changes in the last three quarters of a century and rarely are they for the better.
Skipper.
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Wow. That's one broad generalization.
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Simon Joinson, Editor
dpreview.com
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Look! Look! He's gone "All American" already.. Just look how he's spelt generalization - with a Zee! (Zed in English, English) We spell it generalisation!

See; the end is nigh! - Beware the ides of March or October!

We're doomed I tell you.. ;)
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LOL, good one indeed!

Hmmm, I'm looking forward to less squiggly, red lines under words from my spell-checker. ;)

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gail ~ http://www.pbase.com/gailb

My Canon s90 BLOG: http://www.digicamhelp.com/camera-logs/canon-s90/canon-s90-first-impressions/
 
its the way of the world :)

someone comes up with a good idea developes it :) then cashes in by selling it to the highest bidder

who then usually milks it dry of everything that made it good and makes a lot of money as they run it into the ground

an enthusiast builds up a company makes it great

then a corparate bean counter takes over asset strips it and its goodnight viena

" sic transit gloria mundi"
 
When I stumbled upon this site, a few years back, I was truely amazed, and most of what I know of digital photography is due to Phil & dpreview, period. Through it I have come in contact with other sites, learned a lot about photoediting software, other than Photoshop, Photodesk, and GIMP. Bokeh, that was a word introduced to me by dpreview, and so, and on!

Hopefully, the site will be developed, and improved, and one day maybe even Medium Format will be included?!

Seattle is a nice town with the same weather as here, most of the time :-)!

Good luck, Phil!

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tord (at) mindless (dot) com
 
Chipsthe1 said:
Chipsthe1 said:
I am not looking for an explanation ... but if you are going to give one ... try to make it more credible !

Chas.
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How about the beer is cold?
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It is a better reason than the one dpreview gave ... (;-) .... any good dark beers with you ?

Chas.

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Doha, Qatar.
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Do Not Listen to What I Say ... Listen to What I Mean !.
 
Hannover said:
After the amazon take-over, I would've thought to see DPReview to be able to expand their userbase to a large part of the non english speaking nations of Europe (still the largest camera-market in the wordl!) with editors from France, Germany, Spain, Italy, etc. turning it into must-visit website for millions of non-english speaking photographers as well...

But it seems that your new strategy is completely the opposite, focussing on (or should I say retreating to?) the US market instead of trying to expand the userbase elsewhere...
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English or American language is of no patent to anyone. At least, I didn't get a chance to see a camera with MSAPA SCN1 SCN2 ... marked in Japaness or German who makes the best camera. Also, there is a joke about bilingual and trilingual and the word monolingual is least used because there is another popular one. :)
 
I'll miss the London area test photos and the site will become more parochial to the U.S. I expect that U.S. English will become the standard and we'll lose some of the worldliness that's part of the fun and charm of DPReview.

And while I don't know what the offices of DPReview are like (or if any such thing exists) I very much doubt that working at Amazon corporate headquarters will be a pleasant experience for DPR staff. Amazon is about quantity, not quality. That's the opposite of the DPR review ethos.

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BJ Nicholls
SLC, UT
 
Hannover said:
The assumption that english is somehow the language of the internet, is a rubbish, there are millions of people surfing the web without basic knowledge of english!
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Hannover, you forget lesser nations than germans or russians or similar big ones. There are certainly very big amount people [lurking on teh internetz] whose native language is neither english, german nor any other widespread language. Usually only common language, what they at least partially can understand, is just english. In this sense english is the language of the internet.

Like me - I haven't even learnt english, but can read it freely (mostly thanks to the internet) (and can write in english a bit, just sorry about all errors). I can read russian too, but not german or spanish; thus for me sites in german or spanish are just lost.

I think that keeping dpReview in english is right thing - of course that's my personal, a bit biased opinion only. Of course I would not have anything against translating of dpReview articles into other major languages; just original content should remain in english.

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Arvo
Sigma/Foveon information collection and little gallery:
http://www.stv.ee/~donq/sigma.htm
http://www.stv.ee/~donq/images.htm
 
Chipsthe1 said:
Chipsthe1 said:
I am not looking for an explanation ... but if you are going to give one ... try to make it more credible !

Chas.
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How about the beer is cold?
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Ugh!

The only reason for serving it cold is to anaesthetise the taste buds in order to disguise the fact that there is no actual flavour.

Real ale is best served at a temperature where the taste can be appreciated properly, and that does not mean ice cold.

Regards,
Peter
 
Someone feels insulted because it's staff and hosting moved to Seattle?
You know, perhaps you shouldn't expend too much time on the internet.

Like Mentor_1 well said, who gives a damn where the site is hosted? If it weren't that I saw this post, I would have never known that there was a change.
 
CristianLK said:
Someone feels insulted because it's staff and hosting moved to Seattle?
You know, perhaps you shouldn't expend too much time on the internet.

Like Mentor_1 well said, who gives a damn where the site is hosted? If it weren't that I saw this post, I would have never known that there was a change.
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If you are going to make comments about me ... try doing so when you have learnt to understand the English language a little better ... I did not say anything about my like or dislike of the move to Seattle !

Chas
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Doha, Qatar.
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Do Not Listen to What I Say ... Listen to What I Mean !.
 
And where the business are, the merchant goes ... simple as that .. and while Seattle is not exactly Silicone Valley, its at least close enough ....

Still, to be near, might be they ought to think about opening an Asian office ( where most of the gear are actually researched, designed, and being build

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  • Franka -
 
Chas J said:
CristianLK said:
Someone feels insulted because it's staff and hosting moved to Seattle?
You know, perhaps you shouldn't expend too much time on the internet.

Like Mentor_1 well said, who gives a damn where the site is hosted? If it weren't that I saw this post, I would have never known that there was a change.
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If you are going to make comments about me ... try doing so when you have learnt to understand the English language a little better ... I did not say anything about my like or dislike of the move to Seattle !
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Chas, you should have expected subject warping. It happens well before the 50 post mark in many threads. I understood you didn't like the reasons presented for the move. Period.

I did get a kick out of someone's comment about milking companies dry after buying them. Starting the milking process with a 6,000 mile move doesn't seem like a step to the cheap side for me, especially if DPR is picking up family moving costs as many companies do.

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Charlie Self



http://www.charlieselfonline.com
 
sherwoodpete said:
Chipsthe1 wrote:
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sherwoodpete said:
sherwoodpete said:
How about the beer is cold?
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Ugh!

The only reason for serving it cold is to anaesthetise the taste buds in order to disguise the fact that there is no actual flavour.

Real ale is best served at a temperature where the taste can be appreciated properly, and that does not mean ice cold.
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+1
This may be the truest post ever made on this forum .

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Anybody who isn't confused does not really understand what's going on.
 
And usually there is a Canon Europe or a Nikon Europe over the regional divisions... so what? Let's be honest, the relocation has nothing to do with the size of the market but only with Amazon. And there's nothing bad with it, but let's be clear, US is not the most important market.
Franka T.L. said:
And where the business are, the merchant goes ... simple as that .. and while Seattle is not exactly Silicone Valley, its at least close enough ....

Still, to be near, might be they ought to think about opening an Asian office ( where most of the gear are actually researched, designed, and being build

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