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The e-5 Jpeg experiment.

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rssarma said:
Raist3d said:
Apologize for what? If you see someone picking on your posts for certain subjects that go ignored when some others bring it up then it's common sense something is a bit off. Of course you post wherever you like. That's besides the point. I said what I said because you pointed something out to me, accusing me of something that there's plenty of evidence to tell someone else, but I don't see you doing so.
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Disagreeing would be picking on you!
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Nope sir look at how you started your replies in this thread: with an accusation you pointed something out. I don't see yo do g that for someone I would imagine deserves it more? That's the point.
rssarma said:
rssarma said:
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That's ins't my choice.
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Well, I can see that you basically accuse me of something behind my back and then don't even have the decency to apologise when I call you on it. Now that's definitely your choice.
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I didn't think it was behind your back since we are all here but I have no problem pointing it out to you because it's true. You want respect, give respect. I suggest you look on your very first reply on this thread and think about it.
rssarma said:
Very unfortunate Ricardo....I constantly attribute you with a little but more maturity than this, but every time you prove me wrong. Its pointless having a conversation with you.
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Andreas Feininger (1906-1999) 'Photographers — idiots, of which there are
so many — say, “Oh, if only I had a Nikon or a Leica, I could make great
photographs.” That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life. It’s
nothing but a matter of seeing, and thinking, and interest. That’s what
makes a good photograph.'
 
I addressed you directly with all your questions and decided to just spin on your seat with insults and end it like that. Who's the one the one that can't take the truth here? Not me

I actually apologized to you on pm because I felt it was inappropriate to point out the forum nonsense post you were self indulging in (aka I have nothing to say). Which were becoming as bad as the 'usual suspects trolls' that you whine so much about of course such virtuous behavior goes completely unnoticed by you then I am all bad

We were fine until I pointed out your recent posts. And that's the nature of you: you are good and cool when I agree with you and approve of l you do but when not...

For the record I wasn't trying to discreditthat you know .some. Things, but that you aren't perfect in this then you say or read critique to other sources that get many thing right and some wrong but you can't stand it.

It's too bad. As for my gibberish posts I have a nic thread going with photos from any camera from anyone. You and rsjarma are invite to post your later shots there
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Raist3d (Photographer & Tools/Systems/Gui Games Developer)
Andreas Feininger (1906-1999) 'Photographers — idiots, of which there are
so many — say, “Oh, if only I had a Nikon or a Leica, I could make great
photographs.” That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life. It’s
nothing but a matter of seeing, and thinking, and interest. That’s what
makes a good photograph.'
 
What I pointed out has nothing to do with double teaming
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Raist3d (Photographer & Tools/Systems/Gui Games Developer)
Andreas Feininger (1906-1999) 'Photographers — idiots, of which there are
so many — say, “Oh, if only I had a Nikon or a Leica, I could make great
photographs.” That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life. It’s
nothing but a matter of seeing, and thinking, and interest. That’s what
makes a good photograph.'
 
About jpeg raw points it now like 3-4 times. I have said many times everyone should use what works for them.

The subject hasn't changed onthe thread except when goingo to tangents on subthreads. Like this one.
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Raist3d (Photographer & Tools/Systems/Gui Games Developer)
Andreas Feininger (1906-1999) 'Photographers — idiots, of which there are
so many — say, “Oh, if only I had a Nikon or a Leica, I could make great
photographs.” That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life. It’s
nothing but a matter of seeing, and thinking, and interest. That’s what
makes a good photograph.'
 
Bootstrap said:
How many times, in this thread, has he changed the subject?
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Until you wandered in with your typical non-remarks, the topic was quite clear.
Bootstrap said:
He has inferred that he's seen production E-5 raw files and jpegs yet later moonwalks off of that and says that's not what it's about. I believe that the intent of his post, according to Ricardo's latest posts is that he sees no reason to shoot raw. Well, good for him. I chose, years ago, to shoot 100% raw but don't jam it down anyone's throat. It's simply a choice.
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Yeah, because a thread in a forum could force you to shoot RAW?

It's great that you feel that you own the place, but you do know that your keen wit and profound wisdom on all things Olympus is not required in every-single thread that Raist posts?

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vincent filomena said:
..to get what you want (need) from one camera ?

Vjim
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I shot two events,
  1. The NYC Triathlon: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rssarma/sets/72157624556031525/
  2. The US Open: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rssarma/sets/72157624848053819/
Both of these were shot in JPEG with some minor toning and levels correction in Lr, I chose not to shoot RAW because I was happy with what the JPEGs offered and I knew that the final O/Ps weren't going to be used for anything critical.

However, when I went to Peru:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rssarma/sets/72157623912015279/

I shot everything in RAW because I was shooting in difficult lighting, large DR etc. and I wanted to be able to process these in Lr to get the best out of them and I'm glad I did. The camera by itself would have never allowed me to get what I got from Lr.

The fact of the matter is, I can keep going back to RAW files with a different or updated piece of software and quite possibly get something better. I've managed to do that with Lr3 and some E-1 files, again, if this is important, there's no way I would shoot JPEG.

Tomorrow if I get the E-5, even if it has class leading JPEGs, I will still follow the same "hybrid" work-flow that I have, the E-5 changes nothing. I'll shoot JPEG if I don't need 100% control over final output and if time is of the essence, but I'll stick to RAW for everything else.

So bringing up this discussion now with relation to price seems very pointless. Also, questions like, why shoot with an E-5 when you can get a D7000 or the likes is just ignorant! Should I just dump all my lenses and switch for no apparent reason?
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Raist3d said:
Nope sir look at how you started your replies in this thread: with an accusation you pointed something out. I don't see yo do g that for someone I would imagine deserves it more? That's the point.

I didn't think it was behind your back since we are all here but I have no problem pointing it out to you because it's true. You want respect, give respect. I suggest you look on your very first reply on this thread and think about it.
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I'm guessing this statement ticked you off?
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Member said:
For someone that criticizes folks who speculate without bases you went ahead with no holds barred on this statement! We've not seen enough E-5 JPEGs, let alone RAW files to say anything conclusively.
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I don't see anything disrespectful with it simply because I expect someone that dislikes folks for unfounded speculation to simply not indulge in the same. Further down the conversation you indulged in more unfounded talk by saying what if you had already seem JPEGs & RAWs and you had an NDA etc. etc......it came across as desperate.

As far as going accusing me behind my back is concerned, here's what you said:
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Member said:
I mention it to those poster that seem to have a double standard of addressing mine but not yours.
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I do consider this as an accusation behind my back. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't take very kindly to me calling you a liar in a conversation elsewhere with another poster, would you?
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Oh, and you're such a big help. Like the second message in this thread where u post a couple of pictures and make some cryptic pronouncement that no one could figure out. Numerous questions asking WTF your pictures proved or even what camera took them went ignored by you. But then u stop in to berate someone for how they post? Get real.
mfbernstein said:
Bootstrap said:
How many times, in this thread, has he changed the subject?
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Until you wandered in with your typical non-remarks, the topic was quite clear.
mfbernstein said:
He has inferred that he's seen production E-5 raw files and jpegs yet later moonwalks off of that and says that's not what it's about. I believe that the intent of his post, according to Ricardo's latest posts is that he sees no reason to shoot raw. Well, good for him. I chose, years ago, to shoot 100% raw but don't jam it down anyone's throat. It's simply a choice.
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Yeah, because a thread in a forum could force you to shoot RAW?

It's great that you feel that you own the place, but you do know that your keen wit and profound wisdom on all things Olympus is not required in every-single thread that Raist posts?

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MFBernstein

'Wilderness is not a luxury but a necessity of the human spirit.' - Ed Abbey
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