We Want THIS New Stuff on the CANON SX1 IS replacement

I think there must be an upcoming replacement for the SX1 and I think this can be our opportunity to tell Canon that since they are taking so long why not add these new ideas to your design!

I mean if I have to wait longer why not 'yap' about it.

The SX10 was released on about 10/15/2008 and the SX1 released on about 03/15/2009: 5 months so we may have a bit of a wait.

Put your ideas for a SX1 IS replacement here. Who knows, maybe they're listening!

I do have to give Kudos to Canon though for what the massive improvements in the SX30 over the SX20. If they do have a coming SX1 replacement with a 35x zoom, that would be really something. And it seems the SX30 can take normal filters which is likely to be on a SX1 replacement.

I guess I will just wait and see.

In case you are reading this 'Canon' here are a couple ideas for your SX1 replacement:

1. Design a new battery pack charger. It will do what the SX30 one does but it will also have slots for 4 AA batteries on the back side to draw power FROM and use them to charge the lithium ion battery pack. In this way when your on vacation in a distant place and a battery pack is used up and you put your 2nd pack in the camera you can be charging the 1st battery pack inside your camera bag from AA batteries! You could even put a circuit to charge 4 AA batteries back up so if those AA batteries were rechargeable ones you could recharge them when you got back home. This isn't much to ask for a charger for such a fine camera. I mean hey, its a Canon right? Make it a big-gun!

2. Be the 1st manufacturer to put in not 1 but 2 SDHC memory slots with an internal MINI OS that will copy and move files between the 2 memory cards. This is a handy option when you want to consolidate free space to record a video of something. You can do it with the camera! Or if your relative says, "Hey give me a copy of that picture!" YOU CAN!

And hey Canon, if your running out of 'SX numbers' just call this one the:

XS 1 IS! (Excess) lol

Hey everybody put your ideas here. Maybe we'll even get a flash light, compass, and can opener on this boogar!

Rich

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Would it be possible to use a larger sensor in this type of camera ?

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I'd like to see a sensor that is at least 1/2 or larger. I would also like to see user chooseable ring, like the S90/95 has.

doctorxring said:

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Would it be possible to use a larger sensor in this type of camera ?

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Why not? I had a Fuji FD6500 3 years ago that was probably just as big as this camera and it went from 28 to 300mm. Of course, with a larger sensor you can't get ridiculous tele ranges such as 850mm.
But you can also buy the Fuji S200EXR if you want a large sensor superzoom.

bloodycape said:

I'd like to see a sensor that is at least 1/2 or larger. I would also like to see user chooseable ring, like the S90/95 has.

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I'm all for these too. Great ideas!

And to add to the 2 ideas I had above, the improved charger and 2nd SDHC slot; these could be done independently of the camera so if it's too late they can be optional accessories. The SDHC device could be such as an iPhone with a touch screen and slots for possibly various media types and move files freely.

Lets keep ideas flowing and maybe they'll pay attention!

Rich

petition them for some of these features?

How about keep the zoom range the same, but bring the aperture range to F2.7 - F4.6, while increasing the sensor to 1/2?

I'd like:

Brighter not longer lens.

Better EVF

Full manual control for video like Pany. FZ100

Nigel

The Rich said:

I think there must be an upcoming replacement for the SX1 and I think this can be our opportunity to tell Canon that since they are taking so long why not add these new ideas to your design!

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What I understood from the rumour sites is that there will be no replacement for the SX1. The SX30 replaces both the SX20 and the SX1.

Sandeman684 said:

The Rich said:

I think there must be an upcoming replacement for the SX1 and I think this can be our opportunity to tell Canon that since they are taking so long why not add these new ideas to your design!

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What I understood from the rumour sites is that there will be no replacement for the SX1. The SX30 replaces both the SX20 and the SX1.

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Then it's more like replacing SX20 and downgrading SX1, because SX1 is a higher grade P&S with full HD video recording, 4fps continuous shooting, RAW.

ecka84 said:

Sandeman684 said:

The Rich said:

I think there must be an upcoming replacement for the SX1 and I think this can be our opportunity to tell Canon that since they are taking so long why not add these new ideas to your design!

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What I understood from the rumour sites is that there will be no replacement for the SX1. The SX30 replaces both the SX20 and the SX1.

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Then it's more like replacing SX20 and downgrading SX1, because SX1 is a higher grade P&S with full HD video recording, 4fps continuous shooting, RAW.

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Maybe the SX1 did not sell good enough?

ecka84 said:

Sandeman684 said:

The Rich said:

I think there must be an upcoming replacement for the SX1 and I think this can be our opportunity to tell Canon that since they are taking so long why not add these new ideas to your design!

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What I understood from the rumour sites is that there will be no replacement for the SX1. The SX30 replaces both the SX20 and the SX1.

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Then it's more like replacing SX20 and downgrading SX1, because SX1 is a higher grade P&S with full HD video recording, 4fps continuous shooting, RAW.

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There was a guy who's opinion was that he thought the 2 lines were to be merged into one camera and that he believed Canon would not continue to support 2 lines.

It was also rumored the SX30 would have:

Lithium Ion Battery
Weight reduction
24x Zoom
1080p HD
New backlit CMOS sensor.

The only 2 things that are in fact part of the SX30 is the the Lithium Ion Battery and possibly the weight reduction.

If we pay any attention to rumors certainly the most prominent rumor was the back lit CMOS sensor, and that is what makes me believe if there is a weakness in the rumors it could be the opinion that Canon won't support both lines. Perhaps they will, perhaps.

I've gotten the opinion of my own that Canon is a VERY Shrewd business company. The words that echoed in my mind from Lori's (of cNet) review of the SX1 were repeated in other Canon reviews there, at least one by Josh Goldman which was the particular camera having the 'best in class' photo quality -but not by much-. I then got curious and read 2-3 Nikon reviews and saw just the opposite. They had raves in other areas but in the summary held comments that they were not the best in photo quality.

I didn't read all the reviews, but what I got from what I read was that Canon isn't prone to 'blowing away the competition'. Rather, they are prone to concisely and properly evaluating where the bench mark will be and just barely beating it. This may seem 'cheap', or as I see it very shrewd business wise. I expect to see announcements soon from other manufacturers with cameras with 32x zooms and being on the heals of the SX30 without beating it out.

Next like the SX1 showing up 5 months after the SX10, I expect to see a SX1 replacement in February - March which will blow the SX30 away. Why, to sell the SX30 to a huge consumer base just to sell many of the same consumers the SX1 replacement next spring. Very shrewd, very.

I don't expect it before Christmas, but I do expect it.

Rich

Sandeman684 said:

ecka84 said:

Sandeman684 said:

The Rich said:

I think there must be an upcoming replacement for the SX1 and I think this can be our opportunity to tell Canon that since they are taking so long why not add these new ideas to your design!

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What I understood from the rumour sites is that there will be no replacement for the SX1. The SX30 replaces both the SX20 and the SX1.

Click to expand...

Then it's more like replacing SX20 and downgrading SX1, because SX1 is a higher grade P&S with full HD video recording, 4fps continuous shooting, RAW.

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Maybe the SX1 did not sell good enough?

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That's true, I didn't get one myself because it wasn't good enough (IQ wise). It would be perfect if Canon traded 2x bigger sensor size for 2x less zoom , because at present moment SX1 RAW is almost useless, only a minor advantage over JPG images (white balance, obviously)

Radu P said:

But you can also buy the Fuji S200EXR if you want a large sensor superzoom.

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What is the Canon equivalent of the Fuji S200EXR in terms of sensor size and included zoom?

The Rich said:

Next like the SX1 showing up 5 months after the SX10, I expect to see a SX1 replacement in February - March which will blow the SX30 away. Why, to sell the SX30 to a huge consumer base just to sell many of the same consumers the SX1 replacement next spring. Very shrewd, very.

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The SX1 was announced simultaneously with the SX10 and was available at about the same time, except for the USA. Raw was added later, at the same time as the USA got the SX1.

Sandeman684 said:

The Rich said:

Next like the SX1 showing up 5 months after the SX10, I expect to see a SX1 replacement in February - March which will blow the SX30 away. Why, to sell the SX30 to a huge consumer base just to sell many of the same consumers the SX1 replacement next spring. Very shrewd, very.

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The SX1 was announced simultaneously with the SX10 and was available at about the same time, except for the USA. Raw was added later, at the same time as the USA got the SX1.

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I used the release dates in cnet's reviews.

But I was also going to leave another MAJOR belief of mine:

If in fact the Canon SX30 IS is a replacement for both the SX20 and the SX1, and there will not be a separate replacement for the SX1, CANON WOULD BE SHOUTING IT.

They are not. They are silent in this regard, silent.

Now if you were Canon, and you knew there would be no other update to the SX1, and you knew folks out there (LIKE ME) were not going to buy the SX30 because of that believe, ..... wouldn't you smash that belief with a CLEAR announcement?

Rich

The Rich said:

But I was also going to leave another MAJOR belief of mine:

If in fact the Canon SX30 IS is a replacement for both the SX20 and the SX1, and there will not be a separate replacement for the SX1, CANON WOULD BE SHOUTING IT.

They are not. They are silent in this regard, silent.

Now if you were Canon, and you knew there would be no other update to the SX1, and you knew folks out there (LIKE ME) were not going to buy the SX30 because of that believe, ..... wouldn't you smash that belief with a CLEAR announcement?

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I would not count on this. Canon has never announced or shouted that they stopped a certain series. People have been screaming for a Pro 2 for more than five years now but Canon has never said they either stopped or just paused the line of the Pro 1.

Same goes for the S10-S95 series. It had a hiatus for four years (S80 in 2005, S90 in 2009) without any information from Canon.

Unfortunately I think the SX1 series is going to end up like the Pro1 series and disappear after the first generation.

One of the later G series cameras? Then again the G series offers raw, an ovf, hot shoe, and is larger.

But the SX1 did not come to the US until much later because of the CMOS sensor shortage. If the new SX2 comes out with 35x power zoom lens and 1080p I will get one. I wish it comes with 1080p60 like my Panasonic HDC-TM700 3MOS camcorder using a sensor like this :



"Pre-CES 2010: Sensor developer Omnivision has launched a 14.6MP 1/2.33-inch back-illuminated CMOS sensor capable of full 1080p HD video. The OV14810 sensor uses the company's latest 1.4-micron OmniBSITM architecture and is intended for use in digital cameras and mobile phones. The sensor can produce full resolution images at 15 fps or 1080p at 60 fps. It will enter mass production in the second quarter of 2010."

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1001/10010500omnivisionsensor.asp