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New Zeiss 35/1.4 Color Fringing Issue

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exit here said:
Could you tone it down a bit Bernd.
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I was so upset, I boiled with rage. I am merciless then, hope I didn't offend anyone. ;-)
exit here said:
Hey did you see the Rollei version of this with the 3- three blades?

Triangular bokeh ...very trippy.
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LOL, absolutely! It's because of the bokeh I am not so sad that I cannot adapt it F-mount. But it's an outstanding lens otherwise.
exit here said:
I just bought a 50/1.2ais for the 1.2 and Im a bit interested in this 35, the c/y version looks like fun, this one might be too.
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I saw that. Interesting one. Keep it at 1.2 and produce some magic, please.
exit here said:
"special bokeh effects in both the foreground and background"

I wish it was a pic I could understand, I dont have an eye or experience for low light or night.
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I assume that is Zeiss' way to say it's very beautiful. :-D

This ZF1.4/35 makes me a little nervous too.

Kindest,
Bernd
 
pavi1 said:
I am almost as old as dirt, but paper pictures are not what photography is all about, not anymore. What do you do with paper pictures? No one has show me a paper picture in a long, long time.
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What to do with a paper print, and I still make a lot of them, is a question I ask myself quite often - I have a loft stacked with them :-(

But if you don't make prints how do you display your pictures? On the web? Then you don't need the multi-megapixle cameras people on these forums are calling for all the time, my long gone D1H was good enough for that. (BTW the 2000x1333 pixle image that many are moaning about on this thread could almost be straight out of a D1 or D1H as they had a 2000x1312 sensor)
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David Rosser said:
The 8" wide print I have made of it (that is what photography is about isn't it?? - prints??)
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Jon Rty said:
I know right? Steel is so much better than that "magnesium" plastic in pro Nikon lenses! What I don't get is why magnesium is used instead of steel in hi-tech constructions like airplanes or F1 wheels? Those idiots!
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The use of magnesium in the aircraft industry is very rare, it has the unfortunate property of burning rather easily and its use is thus banned in aero engines (and before someone jumps in yes there are still some 1950s vintage engines still in service with magnesium components).
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Johan1967 said:
It is obvious not easy to accept for the Nikon fanboys that there are better lenses available for Nikon than Nikon's own plastic fantastic lenses.
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Uncommon maybe, but very rare is a bit of a stretch I'd say. For instance the F16, F22 and the Eurofighter all have magnesium parts.
David Rosser said:
Jon Rty said:
I know right? Steel is so much better than that "magnesium" plastic in pro Nikon lenses! What I don't get is why magnesium is used instead of steel in hi-tech constructions like airplanes or F1 wheels? Those idiots!
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The use of magnesium in the aircraft industry is very rare, it has the unfortunate property of burning rather easily and its use is thus banned in aero engines (and before someone jumps in yes there are still some 1950s vintage engines still in service with magnesium components).
David Rosser said:
Johan1967 said:
It is obvious not easy to accept for the Nikon fanboys that there are better lenses available for Nikon than Nikon's own plastic fantastic lenses.
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Fave Photog said:
Here is the same image, with Cyan removed. You be the judge:
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No, no no. It's not the same image. By working off the coloured lighting and pretty much all what was green on the counter you've transformed the image to another.

The joke about the green light next to her forehead was neat, at first, mind you. :)

There are some real aberration issues in the original photo, but I wouldn't class them as severe. Moreover, it's interesting that you're unwilling to concentrate on those and rather continue in turning the whole thread into a one big joke.

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Jon Rty said:
Uncommon maybe, but very rare is a bit of a stretch I'd say. For instance the F16, F22 and the Eurofighter all have magnesium parts.
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I've been retired to long :-) You are right, after going out of fashion in the 60s (for corrosion rather than flamability reasons) magnesium alloy castings are having something of a renascence in the Aerospace industry see for instance http://www.magnesium-technologies.com/var/249/76510-PAPER%20-%20PRESENT%20STATE%20AND%20FUTURE%20OF%20MAGNESIUM%20APPLICATION%20IN%20AEROSPACE%20INDUSTRY.pdf
Jon Rty said:
David Rosser said:
Jon Rty said:
I know right? Steel is so much better than that "magnesium" plastic in pro Nikon lenses! What I don't get is why magnesium is used instead of steel in hi-tech constructions like airplanes or F1 wheels? Those idiots!
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The use of magnesium in the aircraft industry is very rare, it has the unfortunate property of burning rather easily and its use is thus banned in aero engines (and before someone jumps in yes there are still some 1950s vintage engines still in service with magnesium components).
Jon Rty said:
Johan1967 said:
It is obvious not easy to accept for the Nikon fanboys that there are better lenses available for Nikon than Nikon's own plastic fantastic lenses.
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Dave
http://www.rosser.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
http://www.pbase.com/dgrosser
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Ilkka Nissilä said:
Thanks for bringing to my attention this obviously very nice, and moderately priced lens. Since Nikon is unwilling to making a modern 35mm prime for FX, I will investigate this option further. The 35/2 ZF was already excellent, perhaps the best Nikon mount wide angle in terms of across the frame sharpness. Thanks! BTW the highlights look fine, as does sharpness.
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I agree, the performance is exceptionally good. The bokeh excellent very nice round light spots, well done. Non of the present Nikkor lenses in that focal range are competitive. I expect very little flare.
 
Right, I have had enough. WHO CARES? There's a wee bit of colour around some of the highlights, which may be a result of lens fringe, or may be some colour present in the light source.

Are you going to buy the lens? Yes? Great, off you go. No? Then WHY DO YOU CARE?

How can you possibly know the performance of this lens without picking it up and using it and comparing it to ANOTHER LENS?

And why do you all keep wittering on about 'bokeh'? When did this stupid word come into play? Must have been while I was on a shoot.

How about you get off the internet, pick up your camera and take some photographs of some bugs or a sunset or something? Actually, why do I care? You know what, keep it up, you're doing a great job, all of you.
 
J Mankila said:
Fave Photog said:
Here is the same image, with Cyan removed. You be the judge:
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No, no no. It's not the same image. By working off the coloured lighting and pretty much all what was green on the counter you've transformed the image to another.
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You think that rendering clear glass as cyan and green is the mark of a great lens? The bokeh highlights on the left of the image are supposed to be clear wine glasses turned upside down. They are on clear glass shelves. The glasses are identical to the one sitting on the bar next to the woman.

The bokeh highlights on the right are from bottles of wine and liquor, etc., hence the varied colors in some of them.

I prefer my lenses to properly render colors...for in-focus objects and OOF objects...and especially to not mess around with bokeh by adding CA to specular highlights.

The color-corrected image I uploaded is much preferred to the original from Zeiss. Unless, of course, you like bright, shiny, colorful objects...so do ravens and children.

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mlmusto said:
http://www.flickriver.com/lenses/nikon/35mmf14ais/
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Thanks for the link! If you removed the handful of images that show the need to update this lens, and claimed the rest were shot using the new Zeiss 35/1.4, you would have all those in this thread who worship at the Zeiss altar falling over themselves to go out and buy the lens. Now, that is truly funny!
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'He who works with his hands is a laborer. He who works with his hands and his head is a craftsman. He who works with his hands and his head and his heart is an artist.'
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Fave Photog said:
mlmusto said:
http://www.flickriver.com/lenses/nikon/35mmf14ais/
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Thanks for the link! If you removed the handful of images that show the need to update this lens, and claimed the rest were shot using the new Zeiss 35/1.4, you would have all those in this thread who worship at the Zeiss altar falling over themselves to go out and buy the lens. Now, that is truly funny!
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'He who works with his hands is a laborer. He who works with his hands and his head is a craftsman. He who works with his hands and his head and his heart is an artist.'
--Francis of Assisi--
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You have this as a signature and yet you speak like this ...further you are talking about so many of us you dont even know.

What are you suggesting we are, do you think we dont own any Nikon glass, why would you talk to us like this, you have even called some regular contributors to this forum, trolls. So many have offered advice and community and then we have you behaving like this.

What I think is funny is the zf35/2 in your profile wishlist. Does anyone seriously think the AF nikons were not considered by zeiss owners, some of the zf owners even own it ....the pics ...any zeiss owner can see why it is we bought a zeiss, its you that cannot.

Why are you behaving like this, no one here deserves it. I always jump out when 'dissed' but you just jumped straight into everyone, you need to explain your behavior before you even attempt to talk about a lens that isnt even on the shelves yet.

Maybe its time you shifted to Canon but I think Sony is where you are needed more urgently.
 
Fave Photog said:
mlmusto said:
http://www.flickriver.com/lenses/nikon/35mmf14ais/
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Thanks for the link! If you removed the handful of images that show the need to update this lens, and claimed the rest were shot using the new Zeiss 35/1.4, you would have all those in this thread who worship at the Zeiss altar falling over themselves to go out and buy the lens. Now, that is truly funny!
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So you won't accept that you're simply being out of line?

This isn't funny anymore. I could pick out a dozen out of the first fifteen of these Nikkor 35/1.4 samples that would go to show that the bokeh is plain ugly. There are far fewer samples with ugly enough bokeh to make the photo more interesting and just one or two where the background is just right to make it smooth. I have the lens. It does that.

Really, the Zeiss doesn't need the justification anyway. Granted, it's silly for a major manufacturer to present a single sample image, but it's folly to over-analyse it and then read it wrong. Some day I hope you can agree.

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