Then we have narrowed it down to just the video that is bugging you. Again, you could have known that before you bought it.
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Why I'm returning my NEX
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Size is kind of the point of the camera.
I think this was intentional. They could have so easily left out PSAM modes or RAW or the ability to adapt lenses or.....
Isn't that the point of a camera? But it sounds like you're more concerned with video. Well, there is that new 18-200 lens if you need more zoom. The kit lens seems perfectly fine with video, except for the limited range.
Personally, I agree with someone's comment that Sony should have added digital zoom to the video -- there are enough pixels that quality shouldn't be that affected.
Eh? "Shoot Tips" is sacrificed to add a Manual Focus Assist button.
It would appear that Sony thought a lot about adapting lenses.
Weeks? The camera's only been out weeks, and I've seen a couple of people already obtain them....
Well, I think you should get the camera you want. If you don't enjoy the Nex, I agree with you sending it back -- get what matches your needs or wants. However, some of your complaints seem to be stretching it a bit. You don't need to justify it to us, just to yourself.
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did you get both caps included with your nex-5? what about the dual lens kit?
I'm currently deciding between nex-5 with 18-55 or the dual lens kit and I'd like to know exactly what caps are included in each bundle. I think I've read conflicting comments like all caps included, no caps included at all, no body caps, unsealed boxes (suggesting repackaging), etc.
I'll be buying my NEX from adorama.
headroom
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Crazy you should buy a RED, than you have RAW Full Res a Bargain only 20000$
RAW pictures, is that to much to ask for? Well then I'm crazy.
Old Pirate
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Henry....I got the NEX/B with the 18-55 and there was no cap for either body or lens. The manual does show a body cap as part of what was to have been in the kit, but it wasn't there.
Some evidently got a cap, but it's not a big deal for me since the lens will always be on there until I get an adapter and then I'll need a rear lens cap.
If you need to know I'd simply email or call Adorama before you buy from them and ask them if a body and/or rear lens cap comes with their kit.
I think I saw where you can pick up both for under $10 bucks so for most people it is certainly not a deal breaker especially after you use the camera any time at all.
Some evidently got a cap, but it's not a big deal for me since the lens will always be on there until I get an adapter and then I'll need a rear lens cap.
If you need to know I'd simply email or call Adorama before you buy from them and ask them if a body and/or rear lens cap comes with their kit.
I think I saw where you can pick up both for under $10 bucks so for most people it is certainly not a deal breaker especially after you use the camera any time at all.
Did you wonder why Sony did bringout the Nex VG10?
Well it is all about ergonomics. Still pictures ask for a different ergonomics then movies. So combining both is always a compromise. You get a still camera with movie mode, or you get a movie camera with still mode. So it is not that strange to put special still features in the nex3/5 and special movie features in the VG10.
And no RAW is not that much to ask for, but on the other hand, when you want great sills, buy a still camera, if you want great video buy a video camera. In both cases enjoy the extra feautres you get...
Well it is all about ergonomics. Still pictures ask for a different ergonomics then movies. So combining both is always a compromise. You get a still camera with movie mode, or you get a movie camera with still mode. So it is not that strange to put special still features in the nex3/5 and special movie features in the VG10.
And no RAW is not that much to ask for, but on the other hand, when you want great sills, buy a still camera, if you want great video buy a video camera. In both cases enjoy the extra feautres you get...
I want fast primes so those slow video lenses is not exactly what I'm looking for.
I was unclear, I was just trying to make it clear that pushing "Shoot Tips" as one of the main features in the marketing material and not "Focus Assist" clearly shows Sony's targeting priorities for the NEX3/5.
There's fantastic possibilites with the NEX system but I just don't think Sony are there yet. I can wait for Photokina to see what the competion comes up with, so that's what I'm doing while I continue to use my DSLRs.
Can you say for sure there will be a road map for NEX lenses? From what I have read Photokina will be all about the Alpha...could be wrong, but we just don't know.
BTW, There is nothing worse that owning a camera and waiting for a lens to use with it (been there, done that). All a road map means is that some day NEXT YEAR there may be a new lens, but that is of little help now. When one of those lenses comes out there will be 10+ more EVIL cameras from 3 or 4 top manufactures (maybe even Nikon).
headroom
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Do you read the Manual NEX has RAW but not for Video, its far away from such a thing in a consumer camera...
That was pretty obvious after removing the manual video modes from the NEX3/5.
Since the NEX-5 and VG10 basicly are the same except the ergonomics and some improvements I find it shortsighted to remove things that don't bring any additional costs. But that's market segmentation and has nothing to do with technical limitations.
Did you read my post?
I never said that RAW was not possible, jus a choice. The VG10 is NOT just a Nex5 in an other jackett. It is a different camera. Look at the video possabilities. When you look at the specifications you notice it's a video camera with a photo option. Ass the Nex5 specifications tells you it is a photocamera with a video option.
So as I said in my las post, If you want great video: buy the VG10 if you want great pictures then go for a Nex 3/5
A video camera is about taking moving pictures, a photo camera is about taking stills. if you want both options buy both cameras. When you want to take pictures and occasionaly a video; buy the Nex3/5 you want video with occationaly a picture: go VG10
TEBnewyork
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I said would not will as I have no information. Sony announced 3 lenses from 16 to 200mm plus 2 wide converters at launch which is more than either Oly or Panny.
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First of all never expect to have an unemotional discussion when the premise is "I don't like it that Sony left xxx out." You shall understand that Sony did it because it was the correct and moral thing to do.
Based on your comments below:
I don't see any downside to doing that.
tom
Based on your comments below:
- Lack of a stabilized lens that you want for your style of photography,
- No rear and body cap (again, Sony left these out for your benefit - repeat after me..)
- targeted to 90% P&S upgraders (Sony's words),--> less than optimum UI and no assurance of fast primes in a reasonable time.
I don't see any downside to doing that.
- You free up (save) some money for something else
- Assuming a company will release something you want some day is no way to start a system. You should only buy based on what is available.
- Some company may release a camera and lenses you like better. Sure you can sell your NEX then, but losing money for the pleasure of being unsatisfied doesn't make a lot of sense.
- You don't continue to get annoyed trying to make something you aren't satisfied with work
- And if Sony releases a NEX7 with a UI you prefer and with some fast primes, or even if there is no 7, but Sony just releases some lenses that really float your boat, you can always get back in. No one is putting your name on a list. Its not like burning a Party card or changing religions. And the price for a NEX5 then may even be cheap enough to help pay for an extra battery or two (or at least the lens and body cap).
tom
That same button, you can re-assign to Manual Focus help, and turn off the "shoot tips" and "help guides". The first thing I did when I got the NEX5 was to turn off the tips and guides.
The single walkaround lens I would be using with the NEX5 would be the Leica 35/2 Summicron. Perfect size for the lens and also the slim M-mount adapter, which matches perfectly with the pint-sized body !
PS: For maximum image quality, it is still the A900 and the CZ135/1.8 or CZ85/1.8 or the CZ24-70 or the CZ16-35 etc that get deployed. For HD-video and as a camera that can be taken along everywhere, I can see how the NEX5 fully fits the bill !
That's the key point. Sony released and announced certain lenses with the NEX. If those lenses don't satisfy the potential users needs - don't buy the camera or then go and return it. If Sony or a third party releases some stabilized lenses that meet the needs then consider buying it.
The NEX doesn't meet my needs for 2 reasons - I can't use a camera without a VF, and I don't care for a 16mm lens. (I'm not really interested in the zooms because the only reason I want a NEX like camera is because of its size; I don't want to use a bag, and the zooms kill that for me).
If I bought the NEX5 and then complained that there was no fast stabilized 24mm or 35mm lens and complained that Sony still hadn't released the add on EVF or a firmware patch that added wireless flash control, I could expect a lot of strange looks - what ever gave me the impression that Sony was going to have such accessories? I know I don't understand why people make purchases under those circumstances.
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