NEX-5 test indoor and outdoor test shots

I am talking about the noise and smearing in the hair (look at top of head) even at ISO 400 and the washed out teeth in the other photos. Even the lowest ISO dog photo has the hair smearing problem.

Are you saying you don't see it?

I think I know what is going on but don't want to get into it if I am just "imagining" these problems.

gfrensen, please go on record that the ISO 400 picture of the dog is a fine example of what NEX can do.

This is to test out the capability of the sensor. I am impressed as NEX-5 perform better then A550/A700.

So, you would agree that the ISO 400 picture of the dog is a fine example of what the NEX sensor can produce under, "poor light".

I like the last photo of the dog when he is smiling.

You mean the iso 12,800 shot? Am I permitted to represent on the u 4/3 forum that the last photo of the dog is a good example of what NEX is capable of? Is that what you folks want to go with?

tedolf said:

You mean the iso 12,800 shot? Am I permitted to represent on the u 4/3 forum that the last photo of the dog is a good example of what NEX is capable of? Is that what you folks want to go with?

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Go ahead and you will be laughed and mocked out of the water by starting another Nex thread there, like you did last time. Only a buffoon would still question the high ISO/noise of Nex. Dxomark ranks it as among the best in APSC, as does dpreview, and IR.

The last time I started a thread which tangentially involved NEX it went to 150 posts within three days after I tried to shut it down at 50 posts. You call that being laughed and mocked out of the water?

Why can't we be honest about this? The dog pictures are terrible. Exposure is off (I am guessing underexposed) and then, probably the OP brought up the brightness in PP emphasizing the noise (even at ISO 400, I know NEX can do better than that) and causing the teeth to be washed out. Let's get him/her to admit this and then we can have an honest discussion about NEX high ISO performance. Certainlty you are interested in that, aren't you?

I know that NEX forums are famous for ad homenim attacks but let's pretend we are in a u 4/3 forum, stick to the issues and have an inteligent discussion.

Shall we?

The silence is deafening.

Is no one willing to defend the OP's honor against the Troll's u 4/3 tainted slander?

Honestly I am not a professional but I would like to share what I have. The camera is very capable and it could be my shots are not consistant. My apology.

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Honestly I am not a professional but I would like to share what I have. The camera is very capable and it could be my shots are not consistant. My apology.

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You need no apology...thank you for sharing! I think your examples are excellent.

There are a few trolls that have dominated this group from the beginning. Most of us are just ignoring them and hoping they get bored...one here has even resorted to responding to his own posts trying to stir up trouble...luckily nobody's biting!

It's really too bad, and I really have no idea why anyone would want to do this, but unfortunately these few do. Just click the ignore button for those few and the place turns much more useful and welcoming.

Again, a gracious thanks!

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Rick Krejci
http://www.ricksastro.com

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lim yau tong said:

Honestly I am not a professional but I would like to share what I have. The camera is very capable and it could be my shots are not consistant. My apology.

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You need no apology...thank you for sharing! I think your examples are excellent.

There are a few trolls that have dominated this group from the beginning. Most of us are just ignoring them and hoping they get bored...one here has even resorted to responding to his own posts trying to stir up trouble...luckily nobody's biting!

It's really too bad, and I really have no idea why anyone would want to do this, but unfortunately these few do. Just click the ignore button for those few and the place turns much more useful and welcoming.

Again, a gracious thanks!

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Rick Krejci
http://www.ricksastro.com

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Rick,

I thoroughly agree with your comments and thanks for pointing out the "ignore button"

Regards, John

tedolf you are awesome.

It is amazing isn't it.

There are some very good NEX photographers on this forum. Bloomouse (sp?) is about the best. Tom Hoots, maybe next. You could learn a lot from them. However, it amazes me how many NEX photographers post horrific photograps on this forum and say, "Wow, isn't this great". I haven't seen this in the Nikon or u 4/3 forums which I also frequent, or other forums that I occasionally visit. Usually, people only post thier best pictures, or a problem picture that they need help with. NEX users are unique in posting absolute trash, and then getting other posters to thank them for posting it! An exception that proves the rule, someone in u 4/3 posted a picture of a lion through a glass wall. It was awful (first awful picture I ever saw posted on u 4/3). The best posters offered suggestions to impove it, but no one said it was good. The picture was immediatley removed by the u 4/3 OP in shame and humiliation.

Also interesting that the OP doesn't deny that the original photograph was grossly underexposed and that he brought up brightness in PP. Particularly interesting since he posted the dog as an example of NEX high ISO performance.

But I am developing a theory about NEX users v. u 4/3 users. When I am done formulating my theory and get enough examples I will start a thread all about it. I know you all just can't wait!

Keep those picture comming!

Will the OP please step forward and either admit or deny that the dog photos were grossly underexposed and then push processed in PP to obtain a normal looking exposure (and oversharpened) hence exacerbating the noise problems in these photos.

If the OP fails to do so I will be taking these photo's over to the u 4/3 forum to show all there what NEX users think are good low light NEX photo's.

tedolf said:

It is amazing isn't it.

There are some very good NEX photographers on this forum. Bloomouse (sp?) is about the best. Tom Hoots, maybe next. You could learn a lot from them.

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No the amazing thing is, there are lots of good photographers as you note, but it's clear you couldn't learn anything from them...

Actually I have. I also note that you are not the OP.

Well, as the OP has failed to step forward and admit to grossly underexposing the dog pictures and then bringing up the focus and eposure with PP so as to exacerbate the noise I will now be taking the dog photographs to the u 4/3 forum and anouncing there that these are self proclaimed examples of NEX low light performance.

Yabba, please join me.

NEX needs your help!

Great photos. The water drops on the leaves are amazing!!! Though for the dog I think the DoF could be larger. I think someone said that high ISO examples are better when there is a need for high ISO. I'm very much an amateur, so please forgive my ignorance, but could the OP or someone else explain why high ISO may or may not be needed for this type of shot. I get that the OP was demonstrating various ISO levels, but is there a time (given these conditions) that high ISO would be needed?

Thanks!

The OP is hiding in shame.