7DVancouverite
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Canon L = Lousy?
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mmullen
Senior Member
I can't imagine anything else, especially when the OP avoids posting some samples like the plague.
I've always been an Olympus fan until I purchased my first DSLR (a 40D when it was released 4 years ago). If I have any brand loyalty it's to Olympus but the excellent Canon lenses are winning me over.
I have the following Canon lenses (all purchased new in box):
EF-S 10-22mm f 3.5-4.5
EF-S 17-55mm f2.8 IS
EF-S 60mm f 2.8 macro
EF 85mm f 1.8
EF 70-200mm f4 IS
EF 70-200mm f2.8 IS II
EF 300mm f2.8 IS
EF 1.4X II
EF 2X II
That's three "L" lenses (as if it matters) and 4 high quality non-L lenses (and two TC's). All of them worked perfectly out of the box (and I tend towards extreme pixel peeping). And they all still work perfectly. I don't baby them. They all have exceptional IQ and focus qualities. I must have just been lucky (or maybe it's because I know what I'm doing).
If there is a problem with Canon quality control I don't know how I missed it.
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RustyRus
Senior Member
No it will take him 8 hours to show 4 sample photos of the "tests" he did.......What a joke
Where are the bad shots?? All the L's I've used have been pretty good though not all spectacular. None of them seemed "bad" to me though.
Anyway, my L's seem to work fine guess I've been lucky.
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Anyway, my L's seem to work fine guess I've been lucky.
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Sonylover1
Leading Member
Hey man!
You have a good L-lens and doing a splendid work. Very nice birds!
My concern wasnt the L-lens as such. Just the consistency between samples.
I wont pay for the downside of variations.
Here are a few samples of IQ sharpness of two samples of 24-105.
With MFA between +5 - +8 I got sharpness at the focus point. Using 24 and 105 was of course impossibly then.
First 3 is 4,0 - 8,0 with bad sample. Pic 4 and 5 with MFA. Pic 6 compared to 50 / 1,8 wide open. And finally sample 2 at 4,0 .
What do you think?
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Mike the Viking
You have a good L-lens and doing a splendid work. Very nice birds!
My concern wasnt the L-lens as such. Just the consistency between samples.
I wont pay for the downside of variations.
Here are a few samples of IQ sharpness of two samples of 24-105.
With MFA between +5 - +8 I got sharpness at the focus point. Using 24 and 105 was of course impossibly then.
First 3 is 4,0 - 8,0 with bad sample. Pic 4 and 5 with MFA. Pic 6 compared to 50 / 1,8 wide open. And finally sample 2 at 4,0 .
What do you think?
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Sonylover1
Leading Member
This is just 5 pics from the "mushy" 24-105 with severe frontfocus. And 1 comparing Lens 2.
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Sonylover1
Leading Member
Tell me if it is:
A) no L-lens in the pics
B) one L-lens and two other lenses
C) two L- lenses and one other
D) three L-lenses
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Mike the Viking
A) no L-lens in the pics
B) one L-lens and two other lenses
C) two L- lenses and one other
D) three L-lenses
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Aperaturewise
Leading Member
I,ll take a stab at it. All photos are good to my eyes.
In my opinion:
All of these images seem to be quite consistent in regards to sharpness. I would be happy with any of these.
Cheers
In my opinion:
- 1 & #2 were taken with the same lens.
- 3 is different compared to the others.
All of these images seem to be quite consistent in regards to sharpness. I would be happy with any of these.
Cheers
I think that you have no idea how to use a dSLR.
... there is some truth to it.
Today they posted results from the 50/1.2L and 85/1.2L on 1Ds3.
Well, the 50/1.8 and 85/1.8 are optically better, cost perhaps 1/10th, and are much smaller and lighter.
So much for the often repeated "advice" that only the big Ls will be good enough for the full frame bodies.
I'm a big fan of Canon's small non-L primes (on a 5D2)!
Today they posted results from the 50/1.2L and 85/1.2L on 1Ds3.
Well, the 50/1.8 and 85/1.8 are optically better, cost perhaps 1/10th, and are much smaller and lighter.
So much for the often repeated "advice" that only the big Ls will be good enough for the full frame bodies.
I'm a big fan of Canon's small non-L primes (on a 5D2)!
rwbaron
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I've not seen the tests but you're paying for speed and the ability to be reasonably sharp at the fast apertures. This doesn't mean the lens will be any better (or even as good) stopped down than a slower, less expensive alternative. Grinding and polishing large elements is a lot more difficult to hold tolerance than for smaller elements.
Bob
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rwbaron
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There are so many variables here I don't even know where to start. The images you've posted do not represent a good test scene. Where's the point of focus? You can't do this type of evaluation with different light on each frame. Why are you showing MFA adjustments at anything other than wide open?This is just 5 pics from the "mushy" 24-105 with severe frontfocus. And 1 comparing Lens 2.
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Mike the Viking
You've got to control all the variables as tightly as possible to have results that are valid.
Bob
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seriosuly in Japan the 5D2 price is dropping so fast these days , this only means there will be a replacement soon and it will be called 5d3?
and all big retailers here say that is coming.
and I believe Canon thinks the 5D3 a more important camera for its business than the 1DS4................the 5D3 will sell a lot but 1DS4 won't.
and all big retailers here say that is coming.
and I believe Canon thinks the 5D3 a more important camera for its business than the 1DS4................the 5D3 will sell a lot but 1DS4 won't.
I had it and returned it because I prefered the Zeiss 50f2 Mkro Planar , which is a much sharper and cheaper lens that also shoot macro.
well, if you love your 50L , good for you but it is not for me , I dont really think it is a crap but considering its high price , it is , its price-performance ratio is very bad.
by the way nice shots , I am always interested in Middle Eastern countries.
well, if you love your 50L , good for you but it is not for me , I dont really think it is a crap but considering its high price , it is , its price-performance ratio is very bad.
by the way nice shots , I am always interested in Middle Eastern countries.
Really? Have you seen the numerous images posted that were taken with that lens? Have you used one?
for me under 85 mm , MF dominates all. thus, for me Zeiss is the answer now.
I said the 35 OK-ish not a crap.
I never said it is a crap , it is a good lens as I always say but not a great one like 24L2 or 85L2.
but I dislike the Canon 50L and 100LIS.
I never said it is a crap , it is a good lens as I always say but not a great one like 24L2 or 85L2.
but I dislike the Canon 50L and 100LIS.
well, then you should try the new Sigma 70-200 OSHSM , very sharp and very cheap for what it can do.
if I did not buy a Canon 70-200f2.8LIS2 already ,I would get the Sigma.
if I did not buy a Canon 70-200f2.8LIS2 already ,I would get the Sigma.
very very odd , the 17-85 is a very bad lens and if your 24-105f4L is that bad , you should return it.
not only the 7D but all AF do miss focusing in many many scenes such as extremely strong back lit , close distance or back ground is very very busy and things are moving around there.
so, if you want to get unlitmate focus precision , you will need to MF.
stop this kind of comment , really really rude and pointless.
the OP is just not a long time Canon user like us , that's it.
he does not know Canon system does not mean he knows nothing about photography or cameras.
the OP is just not a long time Canon user like us , that's it.
he does not know Canon system does not mean he knows nothing about photography or cameras.
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