What the he** is going on with the forum!!!!

I would not use your words, but yes the last thing we need is a higher than though individuals choosing what should and should not be discussed. It's funny the ones that complain discuss the most in the very posts they are complaining about. I think if a post was out of line Phil would end it. He stops bad language, I don't think he wants to stop free speech.

psd250 said:

rnamin said:

I've said that this forum needs a moderator before because I've
seen pretty downright stupid and childish posts here like the ones
you've mentioned. I would have deleted many useless threads had I
been a moderator or at least I would have grouped them in another
heading. Some people seem to post threads like this forum was a
chat room instead of using email directly.

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I get so excited to read about the Nikon D100 and more... but now with all the BS, I kinda avoid all the threads and only read my threads that I reply to or posted.

-Randy

Kathy_in_MD said:

So, here I sit, looking at all the threads and the first 9 out of
10 are about either a petition or a lawsuit.

So, I dig further and look for the injustice or malicious behavior
that would require such actions.

So, what did I find?

I found posturing, chest-beating, immaturity, and irrational behavior.

I used to drop by here and give and receive tips on photography and
using digital equipment. Where has that gone?

Instead, I have witnessed bashing (yes bashing) of individuals that
provided update information and bashing (yes bashing again) of the
person that provides the forum and provides in-depth reviews.

I truly believe the energy put into these child-like high school
cafeteria activities should be diverted to learning the craft and
art of photography. This camera is just another tool – like
a brush to a painter or a chisel to a sculptor. If the tool does
not work, get a new one – technology does not drive artistry.
Talent transcends the technology. Suing the toolmaker because he
wants to repair it for FREE is ludicrous.

Give Piggy back his glasses and move on.

Take photographs, critique yourself, learn, ask question, and repeat.

f8 and be there
-=Kathy=-

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Hear Hear...

greg n said:

psd250 said:

rnamin said:

I've said that this forum needs a moderator before because I've
seen pretty downright stupid and childish posts here like the ones
you've mentioned. I would have deleted many useless threads had I
been a moderator or at least I would have grouped them in another
heading. Some people seem to post threads like this forum was a
chat room instead of using email directly.

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Well if you really think about the D100 is still very much new...most people wont write about photography until all facets of the camera have been discussed and takeing apart with a fine toothed comb. Also the fact that there are still things here and there that people find with the camera that are not so Kosher, doesn't help. So let them say what they have to say...come back in a few months and all will be diff until the D2 comes out...hahahah.

Randy Russell said:

-Randy

Kathy_in_MD said:

So, here I sit, looking at all the threads and the first 9 out of
10 are about either a petition or a lawsuit.

So, I dig further and look for the injustice or malicious behavior
that would require such actions.

So, what did I find?

I found posturing, chest-beating, immaturity, and irrational behavior.

I used to drop by here and give and receive tips on photography and
using digital equipment. Where has that gone?

Instead, I have witnessed bashing (yes bashing) of individuals that
provided update information and bashing (yes bashing again) of the
person that provides the forum and provides in-depth reviews.

I truly believe the energy put into these child-like high school
cafeteria activities should be diverted to learning the craft and
art of photography. This camera is just another tool – like
a brush to a painter or a chisel to a sculptor. If the tool does
not work, get a new one – technology does not drive artistry.
Talent transcends the technology. Suing the toolmaker because he
wants to repair it for FREE is ludicrous.

Give Piggy back his glasses and move on.

Take photographs, critique yourself, learn, ask question, and repeat.

f8 and be there
-=Kathy=-

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That's funny. It will start up again. It's like the Boxster and then the Boxster S,etc.. Boxster (D100) vs the 996 (D1X).
-Randy

psd250 said:

Randy Russell said:

-Randy

Kathy_in_MD said:

So, here I sit, looking at all the threads and the first 9 out of
10 are about either a petition or a lawsuit.

So, I dig further and look for the injustice or malicious behavior
that would require such actions.

So, what did I find?

I found posturing, chest-beating, immaturity, and irrational behavior.

I used to drop by here and give and receive tips on photography and
using digital equipment. Where has that gone?

Instead, I have witnessed bashing (yes bashing) of individuals that
provided update information and bashing (yes bashing again) of the
person that provides the forum and provides in-depth reviews.

I truly believe the energy put into these child-like high school
cafeteria activities should be diverted to learning the craft and
art of photography. This camera is just another tool – like
a brush to a painter or a chisel to a sculptor. If the tool does
not work, get a new one – technology does not drive artistry.
Talent transcends the technology. Suing the toolmaker because he
wants to repair it for FREE is ludicrous.

Give Piggy back his glasses and move on.

Take photographs, critique yourself, learn, ask question, and repeat.

f8 and be there
-=Kathy=-

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I agree with you, Kathy.

I used to come around here a lot, learning from others about technique, experience with equipment, etc. I only check this forum 1/10 as often as I used to, becuase of all the B.S. you refer to.

Phil, if you're listening, I suggest the following: establish a policy that in a forum such as this one, postings MUST BE DIRECTLY about equipment, problems, solutions, uses, techniques, etc. Then, set up another forum where people can talk about initiating a lawsuit, what petition they want to develop, which Nikon technician they want to draw and quarter, who they want to bash, etc. You maintain their free speech rights, and I maintain my 'right' to see I come to dpreview.com for in the first place--that is, the art and craft of photography. If the posturing and bashing and lawsuit-threatening continues, I think you'll find those who come for an educational experience spending less and less time here...and that'll hurt dpreview.com's bottom line.

Just my opinion. Now go ahead and bash away. Or, better yet, sue me...lol

Kathy_in_MD said:

So, here I sit, looking at all the threads and the first 9 out of
10 are about either a petition or a lawsuit.

So, I dig further and look for the injustice or malicious behavior
that would require such actions.

So, what did I find?

I found posturing, chest-beating, immaturity, and irrational behavior.

I used to drop by here and give and receive tips on photography and
using digital equipment. Where has that gone?

Instead, I have witnessed bashing (yes bashing) of individuals that
provided update information and bashing (yes bashing again) of the
person that provides the forum and provides in-depth reviews.

I truly believe the energy put into these child-like high school
cafeteria activities should be diverted to learning the craft and
art of photography. This camera is just another tool – like
a brush to a painter or a chisel to a sculptor. If the tool does
not work, get a new one – technology does not drive artistry.
Talent transcends the technology. Suing the toolmaker because he
wants to repair it for FREE is ludicrous.

Give Piggy back his glasses and move on.

Take photographs, critique yourself, learn, ask question, and repeat.

f8 and be there
-=Kathy=-

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Ken Ginsburg said:

Kathy_in_MD said:

I found posturing, chest-beating, immaturity, and irrational behavior.

I used to drop by here and give and receive tips on photography and
using digital equipment. Where has that gone?

Ken Ginsburg said:

Ken Ginsburg said:

Kathy,

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I think you have made some valid points. However, I would like to point out:

1) The internet is a great tool. I wish I could eliminate junk and porn mail from my computer, but I can't (at least not totally). Does that make the entire internet worthless? No. I ignore and move on to sites I enjoy and learn from.

2) Forums are great tools. I have picked up many great tips from them. We all choose which ones we can follow and participate in - if bashing doesn't interest you, go the other way, nobody is forcing you to see the whole spectacle. If you don't care for a television show, what do you do - keep watching and then grouse about it?

3) Judgemental perhaps? IMHO, when someone has a "photographic" or digital problem, I am not going to sit here and say that they have no right to voice their opinion. I do believe that's how they operate in IRAQ! If I personally see no merit in their arguments, I close the window and open another one. Posts about lawsuits and complaints may be extremely important to the posters. These are people speaking their minds. What you consider "junk posts" may be very heart-felt opinions from a person who is looking for help and advise.

4) In case you haven't noticed, there are a ton of forums out there. Maybe you can find one more to your liking.

5) I think Phil has done a great job in managing this web-site. Moderating must be very difficult with all of the diverse opinions.

Please do not take this personally. Your opinion has been voiced many times previously, as so has my reply.

Friendly your,
Nicholas

Kathy_in_MD said:

So, here I sit, looking at all the threads and the first 9 out of
10 are about either a petition or a lawsuit.

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Nobody said you had to read every post!

Kathy_in_MD said:

So, I dig further and look for the injustice or malicious behavior
that would require such actions.

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Yeah, so what. Ever think they are justified in their actions. Some of these people use their cameras for business and they're fed up. I don't blame them.

Kathy_in_MD said:

So, what did I find?

I found posturing, chest-beating, immaturity, and irrational behavior.

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You've got to get out of the kitchen. This happens on mostly every message board that I visit on the internet.

Kathy_in_MD said:

I used to drop by here and give and receive tips on photography and
using digital equipment. Where has that gone?

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I didn't know this was the photography tip message board. Thought it was the Nikon SLR Talk forum where you talk about Nikon and their cameras.

Kathy_in_MD said:

Instead, I have witnessed bashing (yes bashing) of individuals that
provided update information and bashing (yes bashing again) of the
person that provides the forum and provides in-depth reviews.

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Don't be so thin skinned. There are no terrorist threats or people physically beating themselves up.

Kathy_in_MD said:

I truly believe the energy put into these child-like high school
cafeteria activities should be diverted to learning the craft and
art of photography.

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You sound like a Kindergarten Teacher..are you?

This camera is just another tool – like

Kathy_in_MD said:

a brush to a painter or a chisel to a sculptor. If the tool does
not work, get a new one – technology does not drive artistry.

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These cameras are expensive tools. And when they don't work you just don't throw them away. This is not a screwdriver this is an expensive tool that people spend hard earned money on.

Kathy_in_MD said:

Talent transcends the technology. Suing the toolmaker because he
wants to repair it for FREE is ludicrous.

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Suing the toolmaker for hiding deficiencies in their cameras is a crime.

Kathy_in_MD said:

Give Piggy back his glasses and move on.

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Give Piggy back his glasses? You must be a Kindergarten teacher.

Kathy_in_MD said:

Take photographs, critique yourself, learn, ask question, and repeat.

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Thanks Mom

Kathy_in_MD said:

f8 and be there
-=Kathy=-

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Kathy_in_MD said:

So, here I sit, looking at all the threads and the first 9 out of
10 are about either a petition or a lawsuit.

So, I dig further and look for the injustice or malicious behavior
that would require such actions.

So, what did I find?

I found posturing, chest-beating, immaturity, and irrational behavior.

I used to drop by here and give and receive tips on photography and
using digital equipment. Where has that gone?

Instead, I have witnessed bashing (yes bashing) of individuals that
provided update information and bashing (yes bashing again) of the
person that provides the forum and provides in-depth reviews.

I truly believe the energy put into these child-like high school
cafeteria activities should be diverted to learning the craft and
art of photography. This camera is just another tool – like
a brush to a painter or a chisel to a sculptor. If the tool does
not work, get a new one – technology does not drive artistry.
Talent transcends the technology. Suing the toolmaker because he
wants to repair it for FREE is ludicrous.

Give Piggy back his glasses and move on.

Take photographs, critique yourself, learn, ask question, and repeat.

f8 and be there
-=Kathy=-

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couldn't agree more.
mike palmer

"Give Piggy back his glasses and move on.

Give Piggy back his glasses? You must be a Kindergarten teacher. "

You most obviously missed the inference of the “Piggy” quote.. This, coupled with the rest of your inane response, would indicate that your education level barely surpasses the kindergarten level.

You are also the exact type of personality that would be baited enough by my post to reply the way you did – how sad. I would expect more of the same from your type. You cannot help yourself. Go ahead…beat your chest again.

f8 and be there
-=Kathy=-

Rob Muller said:

Kathy_in_MD said:

So, here I sit, looking at all the threads and the first 9 out of
10 are about either a petition or a lawsuit.

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Nobody said you had to read every post!

Rob Muller said:

So, I dig further and look for the injustice or malicious behavior
that would require such actions.

Click to expand...

Yeah, so what. Ever think they are justified in their actions.
Some of these people use their cameras for business and they're fed
up. I don't blame them.

Rob Muller said:

So, what did I find?

I found posturing, chest-beating, immaturity, and irrational behavior.

Click to expand...

You've got to get out of the kitchen. This happens on mostly every
message board that I visit on the internet.

Rob Muller said:

I used to drop by here and give and receive tips on photography and
using digital equipment. Where has that gone?

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I didn't know this was the photography tip message board. Thought
it was the Nikon SLR Talk forum where you talk about Nikon and
their cameras.

Rob Muller said:

Instead, I have witnessed bashing (yes bashing) of individuals that
provided update information and bashing (yes bashing again) of the
person that provides the forum and provides in-depth reviews.

Click to expand...

Don't be so thin skinned. There are no terrorist threats or people
physically beating themselves up.

Rob Muller said:

I truly believe the energy put into these child-like high school
cafeteria activities should be diverted to learning the craft and
art of photography.

Click to expand...

You sound like a Kindergarten Teacher..are you?

This camera is just another tool – like

Rob Muller said:

a brush to a painter or a chisel to a sculptor. If the tool does
not work, get a new one – technology does not drive artistry.

Click to expand...

These cameras are expensive tools. And when they don't work you
just don't throw them away. This is not a screwdriver this is an
expensive tool that people spend hard earned money on.

Rob Muller said:

Talent transcends the technology. Suing the toolmaker because he
wants to repair it for FREE is ludicrous.

Click to expand...

Suing the toolmaker for hiding deficiencies in their cameras is a
crime.

Rob Muller said:

Give Piggy back his glasses and move on.

Click to expand...

Give Piggy back his glasses? You must be a Kindergarten teacher.

Rob Muller said:

Take photographs, critique yourself, learn, ask question, and repeat.

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Thanks Mom

Rob Muller said:

f8 and be there
-=Kathy=-

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Nikon: "Hey, we want to upgrade your camera for FREE, just ship it to us!"
User: "Screw you Nikon, I'm NOT sending you my camera, see you in court!"



--
Teppo @ Finland
Digital Camera: Nikon CoolPix 5700
Film Camera: Canon EOS 600
Lenses: Canon EF 28-90mm f4/5.6 USM & Canon EF 75-300mm f4/5.6 II
Galleries: http://th.joroinen.fi/photography.html

Some people get frustrated here...
Some people expect more from an $1000 investment then others do.
(and it's a lot of money I think..)

Some people read a lot about a new digicam...most of the reviews

are all "good-news-shows"....but with the digicam in the hand it's a kind of different

Don't shoot at me please but the best comments I saw for a long time came from that Fuji S2 digicam))

After people bought a digicam, more and more of the truth is coming out in forums like this one, if you like or not.
(and more frustration is coming up???...)

But, I like to read this forum, it's different

If you don't have a Nikon DSLR, why are your trolling here? Oh, I forgot...Finland

Teppo Hytönen said:

Nikon: "Hey, we want to upgrade your camera for FREE, just ship it
to us!"
User: "Screw you Nikon, I'm NOT sending you my camera, see you in
court!"



--
Teppo @ Finland
Digital Camera: Nikon CoolPix 5700
Film Camera: Canon EOS 600
Lenses: Canon EF 28-90mm f4/5.6 USM & Canon EF 75-300mm f4/5.6 II
Galleries: http://th.joroinen.fi/photography.html

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Rich Gibson said:

If you don't have a Nikon DSLR, why are your trolling here? Oh, I
forgot...Finland

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A nice troll post? Hehe. Go figure

Anyway, yes, true, I don't have a Nikon DSLR, but that doesn't, as far as I know, mean I can't read stuff in this forum and even gasp make posts. Let's just say that I have a general interest in cameras.

As for trolling... I'm sorry if you think I'm trolling, that wasn't my intention. I was merely showing my disbelief on the actions of some of the people here. If I'd get a firmware update to my CP5700, I'd be happy to send it to Nikon for them to do that, just to get it. I really can't understand why people are about to sue Nikon for offering a free upgrade! Unless you're a pro who has to have the camera for his work, you shouldn't have too much trouble with this. And in no case should on consider suing them for this! Not that I'm saying everyone is doing this, but some seem to.

As for me being from Finland, what has that got to do with anything? I can do that too... "Bah, them stupid foreigners, always suing everyone for everything."

--
Teppo @ Finland
Digital Camera: Nikon CoolPix 5700
Film Camera: Canon EOS 600
Lenses: Canon EF 28-90mm f4/5.6 USM & Canon EF 75-300mm f4/5.6 II
Galleries: http://th.joroinen.fi/photography.html

Kathy_in_MD said:

"Give Piggy back his glasses and move on.

Give Piggy back his glasses? You must be a Kindergarten teacher. "

You most obviously missed the inference of the “Piggy”
quote.. This, coupled with the rest of your inane response, would
indicate that your education level barely surpasses the
kindergarten level.

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You obviously missed the intended knock on your education. Unless you have a PhD in Engineering I'd say, Yes, I do have a higher education level than you.

Kathy_in_MD said:

You are also the exact type of personality that would be baited
enough by my post to reply the way you did – how sad. I
would expect more of the same from your type. You cannot help
yourself. Go ahead…beat your chest again.

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I wasn't baited by your post. I was just responding to your assanine post and couldn't help myself..hahahaha. By the way, I'm beating my chest..does that excite you? hahahaha.

Kathy_in_MD said:

f8 and be there
-=Kathy=-

Rob Muller said:

Kathy_in_MD said:

So, here I sit, looking at all the threads and the first 9 out of
10 are about either a petition or a lawsuit.

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Nobody said you had to read every post!

Kathy_in_MD said:

So, I dig further and look for the injustice or malicious behavior
that would require such actions.

Click to expand...

Yeah, so what. Ever think they are justified in their actions.
Some of these people use their cameras for business and they're fed
up. I don't blame them.

Kathy_in_MD said:

So, what did I find?

I found posturing, chest-beating, immaturity, and irrational behavior.

Click to expand...

You've got to get out of the kitchen. This happens on mostly every
message board that I visit on the internet.

Kathy_in_MD said:

I used to drop by here and give and receive tips on photography and
using digital equipment. Where has that gone?

Click to expand...

I didn't know this was the photography tip message board. Thought
it was the Nikon SLR Talk forum where you talk about Nikon and
their cameras.

Kathy_in_MD said:

Instead, I have witnessed bashing (yes bashing) of individuals that
provided update information and bashing (yes bashing again) of the
person that provides the forum and provides in-depth reviews.

Click to expand...

Don't be so thin skinned. There are no terrorist threats or people
physically beating themselves up.

Kathy_in_MD said:

I truly believe the energy put into these child-like high school
cafeteria activities should be diverted to learning the craft and
art of photography.

Click to expand...

You sound like a Kindergarten Teacher..are you?

This camera is just another tool – like

Kathy_in_MD said:

a brush to a painter or a chisel to a sculptor. If the tool does
not work, get a new one – technology does not drive artistry.

Click to expand...

These cameras are expensive tools. And when they don't work you
just don't throw them away. This is not a screwdriver this is an
expensive tool that people spend hard earned money on.

Kathy_in_MD said:

Talent transcends the technology. Suing the toolmaker because he
wants to repair it for FREE is ludicrous.

Click to expand...

Suing the toolmaker for hiding deficiencies in their cameras is a
crime.

Kathy_in_MD said:

Give Piggy back his glasses and move on.

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Give Piggy back his glasses? You must be a Kindergarten teacher.

Kathy_in_MD said:

Take photographs, critique yourself, learn, ask question, and repeat.

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Thanks Mom

Kathy_in_MD said:

f8 and be there
-=Kathy=-

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Teppo Hytönen said:

As for me being from Finland, what has that got to do with
anything? I can do that too... "Bah, them stupid foreigners, always
suing everyone for everything."

--
Teppo @ Finland
Digital Camera: Nikon CoolPix 5700
Film Camera: Canon EOS 600
Lenses: Canon EF 28-90mm f4/5.6 USM & Canon EF 75-300mm f4/5.6 II
Galleries: http://th.joroinen.fi/photography.html

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You're welcome here anytime, Teppo. Besides, you own a Nikon. Since the actions of other Nikon owners may affect Nikon's attitude toward toward all Nikon owners, including you, you have every right to voice your opinion on this matter.

Ron

And, I disagree that he doesn't own a DSLR. If you get into technicalities of light path and the desperate need for the sound of mirror slap, he doesn't. But if you look at it from a "making photographs" point of view, he does - what he sees is what he gets, high quality zoom lens, high resolution and high pixel count.

Maybe he can't come here because he doesn't have dust problems on his CCD?

I'm VERY interested in the 5700. I find I like working with a 995 more than a d1x, much to my surprise. Better ergonomics, better for street work, less obvious, easier to hold on to in tight dangerous places. The only thing I dislike is the viewfinder, same as I disliked in the film world. I've always thought that a paradigm shift in image capture as large as film to digital needed a similar size shift in user interface and packaging. The 9XX series was close but no cigar. The 5700 may be the one...

Ron Hildebrand said:

Teppo Hytönen said:

As for me being from Finland, what has that got to do with
anything? I can do that too... "Bah, them stupid foreigners, always
suing everyone for everything."

--
Teppo @ Finland
Digital Camera: Nikon CoolPix 5700
Film Camera: Canon EOS 600
Lenses: Canon EF 28-90mm f4/5.6 USM & Canon EF 75-300mm f4/5.6 II
Galleries: http://th.joroinen.fi/photography.html

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You're welcome here anytime, Teppo. Besides, you own a Nikon.
Since the actions of other Nikon owners may affect Nikon's attitude
toward toward all Nikon owners, including you, you have every right
to voice your opinion on this matter.

Ron

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Sad…so sad.

a)I did not ask you if your education level was higher than mine nor did I compare my education level to yours. Duh? Your ego was just “bust’in” to get people to believe you have a MS. Like that is believable to begin with.

b) The “piggy” ref still shot over your head. You still don’t get it. I suppose the MS Degree curriculum from K-mart does not have any English lit requirement

c) Beating your chest excite me?? How pitiful. The fact that you are asking indicates your how poor your sel-esteem really is along with the attempted boast of a figment degree in ‘a ‘ above.

d) I have reviewed some of your other post to this forum. It would seem you have a penchant for poking fun and ridiculing others. You feel good when you do that don’t ya? You feel like a bigger man? That fake MS degree is not good enough to carry you through the day?

Pitiful.

F8 and be there.
-=Kathy=-

Rob Muller said:

Kathy_in_MD said:

"Give Piggy back his glasses and move on.

Give Piggy back his glasses? You must be a Kindergarten teacher. "

You most obviously missed the inference of the “Piggy”
quote.. This, coupled with the rest of your inane response, would
indicate that your education level barely surpasses the
kindergarten level.

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You obviously missed the intended knock on your education. Unless
you have a PhD in Engineering I'd say, Yes, I do have a higher
education level than you.

Rob Muller said:

You are also the exact type of personality that would be baited
enough by my post to reply the way you did – how sad. I
would expect more of the same from your type. You cannot help
yourself. Go ahead…beat your chest again.

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I wasn't baited by your post. I was just responding to your
assanine post and couldn't help myself..hahahaha. By the way, I'm
beating my chest..does that excite you? hahahaha.

Rob Muller said:

f8 and be there
-=Kathy=-

Rob Muller said:

Kathy_in_MD said:

So, here I sit, looking at all the threads and the first 9 out of
10 are about either a petition or a lawsuit.

Click to expand...

Nobody said you had to read every post!

Rob Muller said:

So, I dig further and look for the injustice or malicious behavior
that would require such actions.

Click to expand...

Yeah, so what. Ever think they are justified in their actions.
Some of these people use their cameras for business and they're fed
up. I don't blame them.

Rob Muller said:

So, what did I find?

I found posturing, chest-beating, immaturity, and irrational behavior.

Click to expand...

You've got to get out of the kitchen. This happens on mostly every
message board that I visit on the internet.

Rob Muller said:

I used to drop by here and give and receive tips on photography and
using digital equipment. Where has that gone?

Click to expand...

I didn't know this was the photography tip message board. Thought
it was the Nikon SLR Talk forum where you talk about Nikon and
their cameras.

Rob Muller said:

Instead, I have witnessed bashing (yes bashing) of individuals that
provided update information and bashing (yes bashing again) of the
person that provides the forum and provides in-depth reviews.

Click to expand...

Don't be so thin skinned. There are no terrorist threats or people
physically beating themselves up.

Rob Muller said:

I truly believe the energy put into these child-like high school
cafeteria activities should be diverted to learning the craft and
art of photography.

Click to expand...

You sound like a Kindergarten Teacher..are you?

This camera is just another tool – like

Rob Muller said:

a brush to a painter or a chisel to a sculptor. If the tool does
not work, get a new one – technology does not drive artistry.

Click to expand...

These cameras are expensive tools. And when they don't work you
just don't throw them away. This is not a screwdriver this is an
expensive tool that people spend hard earned money on.

Rob Muller said:

Talent transcends the technology. Suing the toolmaker because he
wants to repair it for FREE is ludicrous.

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Suing the toolmaker for hiding deficiencies in their cameras is a
crime.

Rob Muller said:

Give Piggy back his glasses and move on.

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Give Piggy back his glasses? You must be a Kindergarten teacher.

Rob Muller said:

Take photographs, critique yourself, learn, ask question, and repeat.

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Thanks Mom

Rob Muller said:

f8 and be there
-=Kathy=-

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I knew you couldn't resist..hahaha You just had to come back for more didn't you. Well, as long as you can dish it out I hope you can take it.

Kathy_in_MD said:

Sad…so sad.
a)I did not ask you if your education level was higher than mine
nor did I compare my education level to yours. Duh? Your ego was
just “bust’in” to get people to believe you have
a MS. Like that is believable to begin with.

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Yes, I do have an MS in Engineering and if you'd like you can check it out by calling Drexel Univ in Philadelphia. You know my name, unlike you I don't hide my last name. Kathy from MD. What part of MD?

Kathy_in_MD said:

b) The “piggy” ref still shot over your head. You
still don’t get it. I suppose the MS Degree curriculum from
K-mart does not have any English lit requirement

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Nope, never said I had an MS in English

Kathy_in_MD said:

c) Beating your chest excite me?? How pitiful. The fact that
you are asking indicates your how poor your sel-esteem really is
along with the attempted boast of a figment degree in ‘a
‘ above.

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It was a joke. See, that's the problem with you. You don't know when people are joking with you. You have to learn to get a sense of humor. I have no problem with self esteem. I'm happily married, have three kids, own my own business and am very successful- thank you. And, since you're still talking degrees, or the doubt of mine, I will be more than happy to scan it and send it to you..

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d) I have reviewed some of your other post to this forum.

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Wow, I really did get to you. Starting to wonder who I was before you started insulting me. That is weak.

It would

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seem you have a penchant for poking fun and ridiculing others.

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Nope, just a penchant for voicing my opinion just like you voice yours.

You

Kathy_in_MD said:

feel good when you do that don’t ya? You feel like a bigger
man?

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It upsets you that men rule the world..doesn't it? You probably talk about your male boss behind his back too. I know your kind.

That fake MS degree is not good enough to carry you through

Kathy_in_MD said:

the day?

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There goes the degree stuff again. As I said, I'll be more than happy to scan my degree and email it to you. You sound pretty insecure yourself. What is your degree in? Secondary Education. I'm right about the Kindergarten teaher- aren't I?

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Pitiful.

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The feeling is mutual hun!!

Rob Muller,you win (if you felt you were in some form of “dish it out” match” )

Yes, I surrender.

If you want to pretend to be an engineer with an MS and have a successful business - what do I care – obviously you do based on your persistent urging to prove the point. And I especially don’t care for you to email me proof (suspect of course) of same.

Also, if you believe me to be a Kindergarten teacher…fine. You are SO superior (feel better?). Geesh.

What I do know (as provided by your past posts to others) is that you do not help people – you criticize them and make fun at their expense.

What sick enjoyment do you receive from that??

Yes, you win. Your type normally does – even if means hurting others.

Oh, and PS…Drexel is not a “real” college, if you know what I mean. You should have picked a better one.

Last post for me on this thread - I refuse to converse further with a person that derives sick pleasure from hurting others.

f8 and be there
-=Kathy=-

wrote:

Rob Muller said:

I knew you couldn't resist..hahaha You just had to come back for
more didn't you. Well, as long as you can dish it out I hope you
can take it.

Kathy_in_MD said:

Sad…so sad.
a)I did not ask you if your education level was higher than mine
nor did I compare my education level to yours. Duh? Your ego was
just “bust’in” to get people to believe you have
a MS. Like that is believable to begin with.

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Yes, I do have an MS in Engineering and if you'd like you can check
it out by calling Drexel Univ in Philadelphia. You know my name,
unlike you I don't hide my last name. Kathy from MD. What part of
MD?

Rob Muller said:

b) The “piggy” ref still shot over your head. You
still don’t get it. I suppose the MS Degree curriculum from
K-mart does not have any English lit requirement

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Nope, never said I had an MS in English

Rob Muller said:

c) Beating your chest excite me?? How pitiful. The fact that
you are asking indicates your how poor your sel-esteem really is
along with the attempted boast of a figment degree in ‘a
‘ above.

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It was a joke. See, that's the problem with you. You don't know
when people are joking with you. You have to learn to get a sense
of humor. I have no problem with self esteem. I'm happily
married, have three kids, own my own business and am very
successful- thank you. And, since you're still talking degrees, or
the doubt of mine, I will be more than happy to scan it and send it
to you..

Rob Muller said:

d) I have reviewed some of your other post to this forum.

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Wow, I really did get to you. Starting to wonder who I was before
you started insulting me. That is weak.

It would

Rob Muller said:

seem you have a penchant for poking fun and ridiculing others.

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Nope, just a penchant for voicing my opinion just like you voice
yours.

You

Rob Muller said:

feel good when you do that don’t ya? You feel like a bigger
man?

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It upsets you that men rule the world..doesn't it? You probably
talk about your male boss behind his back too. I know your kind.

That fake MS degree is not good enough to carry you through

Rob Muller said:

the day?

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There goes the degree stuff again. As I said, I'll be more than
happy to scan my degree and email it to you. You sound pretty
insecure yourself. What is your degree in? Secondary Education.
I'm right about the Kindergarten teaher- aren't I?

Rob Muller said:

Pitiful.

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The feeling is mutual hun!!

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